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Didn't know where to stick this but PFF has been purchased and people are getting laid off. I don't know if how it changes but something is happening. There's always a place for stats but to much credit was given to a flawed system. Cris Collingworth was the original owner.

Yeah, one transitioned to the other. My bad. Rooting for Zah too...

Stevenson with all his talent still has to prove himself. As far as players like Zak and Hyppolite can still develop into contributing assets. I think to quickly a lot of people blow off players that don't show instant success. We have coaches now that can develop players. Some take longer. Dushon Wright is like that and was a complete surprise. I think we do draft both S and CB in the draft. I am curious to see what a faster team looks like for DAs scheme.

Oh I get it. I though you were talking about Zah.

His lack of overall discipline. The whole hail Mary thing was a huge tell. When you're off talking smack instead of lining up, then try to make up for it by blowing your assignment. In my occupation, the dumbest people don't read the room or perform with understanding the greater good.

What suggests to you that he is dumb?

It's hard to coach the dumb out of guy. I'm rooting for him.

I think that's highly likely. A safety is almost a lock, and we need CBs. I dont think JJ is sticking around very long. Hopefully his play is elevated from last year, having a healthy offseason, but otherwise he's being paid too much for his production?

It's hard to remember but these are just kids too. That doesnt mean I forgive his lack of discipline, but it does mean that redemption is possible? He was 24 last year - maybe some maturity will kick in. And either way, new faces will be nipping at his heels.

It would be awesome to see Zah Frazier take his skills to the next level with the Bears. We seen it with Nashon Wright, so why not Zah. Stevenson must have a low maturity level because he has talent but seems to waste it by not taking his opportunity to the highest level. If he would show seriousness, he could have a long career.

Smith is someone the Bears liked so hopefully he is feeling good and healthy and ready to compete. I could see 2 of first 3 or 4 picks being dbs (safety and CB).

I agree, but at the same time, if we draft his replacement, that'd be OK too. I'm curious to see what we have in Zah Frasier too. No idea what last year's absence was about, but Al Harris pushed for him, and we saw what he did with Nashon Wright, so maybe Frasier will be excellent for us?

I'm not ready to give up on him either. I still think he's pretty talented but took a step back last year. Hope he rights the ship because he's kind of important from a depth standpoint.

I think Stephenson has a ton of talent, but his mind hasn't been on the game properly. Im not even saying I think it ever will be. But if he grew up, he'd be a pretty good CB.

Was thinking about this signing and I wonder if it's time to put Kyler Gordon at outside CB and use Lewis more in the nickel. If you keep Gordon in the nickel, you have a bit of a void at #2 CB IMO unless someone out there really believes in Tyrique Stevenson. But if you put Gordon outside, then use some combination of Lewis/Stevenson/Blackwell inside (where I think Stevenson's tackling becomes more of an asset), then I think your CB lineup is looking a bit better. Now, maybe they are targeting a potential #2 CB in the draft which moots all this, but that approach makes sense to me. Then you still have guys like Terrell Smith (if he can ever stay healthy) and Zah Frazier as developing at outside CB.

I must have put my email on there site but everyday NFL Mock Draft Database sends me any published mocks. 18 today. Four have us taking Messidor . He's a beast but I don't think we are going to draft a 26 year old rookie that has an injury history. 3 has us taking Theinaman. I don't think he makes it to us but would like that pick. It's not that I think any of these sites have a clue where they will go after pick 15 but it's a point for discussion.

What a great day today. I can now have proper discussions with members.

Good Lord. Mount butthurt erupts again ...🤡

Go to your profile Go to heading,(ignored users) And put my username in it This was suggested months ago to both of us and I did it for one month. You never did it. Now finally we will eliminate the problem with the only person on here that always goes to name calling until they piss other members off. When I did it, when someone quotes you, the message will show to user not directly. I saw the football God of watching tape still bringing my name up. To do this properly when answering a post just don't quote it and do a normal response. It will save future name calling. I'm doing it right now but make sure the other member that has quit this site twice and been suspended does it. It's sad when adults have to do this but it happened.

Can someone please tell me how to block someone on this new version of the site? Thanks in advance.

#1 youre a dumbass. I dont get most of my information from them. I read and watch lots of stuff just like we all do. #2 you are always saying "so and so says" so thats how your brain works, not mine. I have never once cited Phils opinion as the reason I think something, or that something I think is true, have I? I just watch the film cutups. Theyre excellent. But I make up my own mind about what I see. This is just more weird fake psychoanalysis. I swear this is the weirdest Bears board. This doesnt feel like men discussing football. Its more like a jr high school girls clique. Its embarrassing really.

First of all that assumption that you get most your information from TTNL came from me only. It is an assumed fact because it is the only pundit you ever mention. I can remember you citing Cronin once but I saw a TTNL episode where I think they talked to her or talked about her. When you go to the extend to pay a subscription for someone that means you follow them. Not sure why say that is a hateful comment towards you. I get you make up your own mind to form your own opinion but unless you otherwise state it, you got most of your information from them. I cite many people because I watch lots of different people. I'm retired and have free time and you probably don't. I don't get why you take these comments as a slam? Every time you read something it's either black or white. Most of my comments are in the middle. If I provide a source then you insinuate I think that person is a football God or something. None of that is true. You always say literally tape never lies but I look at that in a context. It's not any different than PFF stats that has its limitations. Neither of us like them. You watch a game and a player plays bad but if that player has a nagging injury, he may not look good in a few games. Scouts watch every snap and put everything in a overall scope. You may watch a highlight film and a few games to form an opinion. They watch everything to form their opinions. As you have stated many times we have opinions and this is a discussion board. Someone saying you follow TTNL is not a slam but you are always doing comments like that that detracts from the discussion board.

thats smart. so many narratives out there, but the truth isn't THAT hard to see if you watch some film. it isnt rocket science.

If I felt like spending some money I’d just get the college game film and watch alone. I throw all sorts of opinions around but I really don’t feel like I have a solid feel for any of these players until I can see every one of their snaps in at least two full games, ideally four.

Hmm maybe you’re right and he is still in the Bears payroll to help spread mis and dis information