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I agree, 100%. It seems the schedule makers always deal the Bears a shitty hand. We need to take advantage of the next seven games and get our game in order so that we can finish the remainder of a brutal second-half slate of games strong.

I'm sure you meant Poles initially brought him in as LG, not LT. That being said, I agree. He would have been a solid addition as a LG, his more natural position. I can't blame Poles for grabbing Thuney when he became available. However, that forces Jonah to RG. If Thuney had signed first, would Poles have signed Jonah as a RG at the same price tag, or would he have chosen to take a pass? A question that we will likely never know the answer to.

It sucks that the Bears had to get back to back Division games so early in the season, but they won't play another Division game until November 16th, Week 11. The next 7 games are DAL, LVR, WAS, NO, BAL, CIN, and NYG. I would say 6 of those are winnable.

It’s worth noting that Ben was part of the turnaround in Detroit. He saw how Dan Campbell handled all the early losses. IMO that’s why you saw him tell the team he still has confidence in them.

I agree overall. For all the vitriol regarding our crappy offense we still put up 21pts on the road against a playoff team. I’m so old I remember when our kicker was the leading scorer. There were lots of stupid mistakes but seeing this offense put up 28pts or more isn’t hard to see in the future. I like the detailed answers Ben gave yesterday in his press conference. Even regarding the defense he was clear that he understands the calls and assignments. I remain optimistic. One thing this teams need is leadership and attitude on the field. Both on offense and defense there were too many heads hanging low in the second half.

Thanks, Adam. I love this thread and hope you continue comparing the 2nd-year QBs as the season advances. It will be interesting to see the progress, or regression, of each of them throughout the season.

I think Poles brought him in for LT then Thuney became available.

A voice of reason. Thanks for the post. Long before the season began, BJ was asked about the development of the OL. He said it would take time for them to adapt to his complex blocking schemes, which were called for in many of his plays. When pressed further, he said to expect it to take (if I remember correctly) a minimum of 6 to 8 weeks for the OL to become a cohesive force. I didn't want to believe it would take that long. Ooops. BJ's offense is complex, and he warned us that it would take time for the players to fully digest the schemes to the point of playing at full speed without hesitation to recall their assignments. To just let it rip without hesitation. Even his former players in Detroit came out and said that Bear fans should be patient, as it would take time for the offense to learn his complex system. I didn't want to believe it would take that long. Ooops. BJ warned us that although Caleb was showing improvement, it would take time to correct all of his major flaws and his growth would be a bit of a rollercoaster ride as the season progressed. I didn't want to believe it would take that long. Ooops. We have to remember, back in 2022, Detroit started the season 1-6 in BJ's first year as OC. They finished the year 9-7. It took time for their offensive players to grasp and execute his playbook. As far as defense. D. Allen is put in a hell of a spot. Our CB room is a mess with injuries. Booker will not be back until after the bye. Turner missed time to develop during the summer because of an injury. Garret is playing less than 100%. Allen's defense is very complex and challenging for players to learn. We were told it would take time. It seemed, at times, that it was progressing rapidly, but now the injuries have thrown everything off course. So for me, my primary concern is how DA will turn our D around. I'm disappointed, like many of you. Still, I also blame myself for having unrealistic expectations of the players to adjust to two systems, O & D, that have been described as complex and requiring time for players to fully execute.

He was a Pro Bowl LG in DET, then LAR tried to use him at Center and RG and it didn't work. Bears trade for him as a RG. Poles is really bad at his job. Making guys swap sides normally doesn't work out. Like try skateboarding with your opposite foot forward, you can do it and if you practice, you can get better, but it never feels natural.

They will have an Out or IR designation. Sometimes that does not occur until it is official.

7 of the top 10 draft teams are still in the top 10 from last year. Falling out were JAX, NE, and LVR, all who are 1-1 and JAX is the only team of the 3 to have a plus point differential after 2 games. The 3 teams that replaced them are MIA, HOU, and KC. MIA seemed to be trending this way since last year. HOU has always been a shaky team right at the cusp of winning and losing, but KC is pretty shocking since the matched their loss total from last year in 2 weeks. However, with 7 of 10 still in the top (or bottom) 10, and the other 3 teams only 1-1 really shows that it is hard to move out of the basement, just like a 32-yr kid who is unemployed.

Yeah, at this point, we are back to only tracking QB growth in Year 2, Year 1 in new system. Most people were expecting a fringe playoff team, but unfortunately this roster is filled with guys content with 5 wins.

Updated after MNF: 1. NYJ 0-2 (.471 SOS) 2. NO 0-2 (.471 SOS) 3. MIA 0-2 4. CLE 0-2 5. TEN 0-2 6. CHI 0-2 (.559 SOS) 7. NYG 0-2 8. KC 0-2 9. CAR 0-2 10. HOU 0-2 (.647 SOS)

We choked in the first game and got our ass kicked in the 2nd. Prior to the season beginning we had the discussion of how long it would take for the Ben Johnson team to take shape. Nobody on this board said it would be instant. We agreed it would be between week six and eight weeks before the offense would click. We never really discussed how long it would take the defense. Defense usually happens faster as but we have had a lot of injuries to hinder the process. Who predicted we would win the division? None of us. Caleb got better this week. That's all that counts.

I feel my 6 wins is a now too many. The schedule doesnt look much easier. Might be a 4 win team.

I hear you and keeping my fingers crossed that this unit gels as they play more together.

Caleb continues to progress. That’s job 1. As things slow down for him the playbook starts to expand.

The positive spin to this is that KC is also 0-2. After tonight either Harbaugh's Chargers or Pete Carroll's Raiders will have the sole lead on the AFC West. I haven't seen a lot of games outside of Chicago's so far but the little I did see I'm surprised to see the Giants at 0-2. Had it not been for the leg of Dallas' kicker and being able to 'easily' knock in 60+ yard FGs, the Giants would at least .500.

Looks to be out for awhile or possibly the entire season. Crazy think players can get hurt outside of work and basically get workers comp. Good reason for a fire sale I guess. Clean house at deadline and reset for next year. Use this year for offensive development and to evaluate players.

Revisiting the terrible and unnecessary decision to give Jonah Jackson an extension because he sure hasn’t been good so far this year.

looking at the schedule I see about 9-10 more losses coming.

Super small sample size, but more numbers continue to show he's getting better. They scored 17 points against MIN (taking away the pick 6) and 21 against the Lions. They had 317 total yards against MIN, and 339 against the Lions. Penalties continue to kill this team, but if they can ever clean that up, there are signs of hope with this offense. Next week will be a big test. DAL's defense is horrible. If the Bears don't put up big numbers against them, It will be concerning. If they do, it will give some validity to the idea that they are improving.

Okay thanks, so the software decides the IR eligible.

In Week 2, Fields had 1.1 QBR, one of the lowest scores I have seen. 3-11, 27.3%, 27 yds, and a fumble lost before leaving the game with a concussion.

Crazy to think the opening line has the Bears favored, but they do. My assumption is that will slide to DAL being the favorite as the week goes on and DAL gets hammered with money. At this point, it is probably another loss until something happens with the defense. If they can't get pressure, they can't have Stevenson out there trailing WRs by 5 yards on every play. I don't even know what type of coverage he is playing, but he has been one of the worst players on the defense, and teams just start targeting him on every play. Hopefully the offense decides to get the TEs involved because they combined for only 3 targets against DET. 2 for Kmet and 1 for Loveland. Right now the target share by position group is: 1. WR - 46 2. RB - 12 3. TE - 9