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The Water Cooler

Come here to talk about anything non-Football. From politics to what you had for dinner last night, it can go here.

  1. Started by CrackerDog,

    Being Barry Goldwater's granddaughter and living in Arizona, one would assume that I would be voting for our state's senator, John McCain. I am still struck by certain 'dyed in the wool' Republicans who are on the fence this election, as it seems like a no-brainer to me. Myself, along with my siblings and a few cousins, will not be supporting the Republican presidential candidates this year. We believe strongly in what our grandfather stood for: honesty, integrity, and personal freedom, free from political maneuvering and fear tactics. I learned a lot about my grandfather while producing the documentary, Mr. Conservative Goldwater on Goldwater. Our generation of Gol…

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  2. Started by CrackerDog,

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/23/opinion/...amp;oref=slogin Check it out.

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  3. OK, so the WSJ isn't known to be a bastion of liberalism... http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122463199532056477.html This is a good article.

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  4. Started by CrackerDog,

    Check it out!

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  5. Started by CrackerDog,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HNNADGCyI4 Nobody on the McCain side really believes Obama is a radical Muslim with real ties to terrorism. On election night, if McCain wins, we all know he'll get up there and talk about Obama like he's his favorite person in the world. Some of his most racist followers parrot these lines because they're ignorant. But really, McCain and his team are just playing politics, right? But then we get to within 10 days of the election and things still aren't going well. Joe the Plumber just isn't getting you any traction... What do you need as a campaign? A real game-changer. Something so ugly you could tie to your opponent it m…

  6. Started by CrackerDog,

    http://www.economist.com/Vote2008/ Et tu, Australia? LOL! The whole world hates Repugs.

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  7. Started by CrackerDog,

    http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/567867.html Some quotes… * Gov. Palin's nomination clearly alters the landscape for Alaskans as we survey this race for the presidency -- but it does not overwhelm all other judgment. The election, after all is said and done, is not about Sarah Palin, and our sober view is that her running mate, Sen. John McCain, is the wrong choice for president at this critical time for our nation. ** Sen. Barack Obama, the Democratic nominee, brings far more promise to the office. In a time of grave economic crisis, he displays thoughtful analysis, enlists wise counsel and operates with a cool, steady hand. The same cannot be said of Se…

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  8. Started by CrackerDog,

    It ain't over! That's my take. Get out there and vote and take 10 Obama supporters with you!!! But it certainly is encouraging to see someone so high up the Repug food chain be this demoralized. God, I love it! LOVE IT!!! David Frum in today's Washington Post...

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  9. Started by CrackerDog,

    Wow! Current poll shows McCain with a 2 point lead in his home state, 43.5 percent to 41.5 percent. Within the margin of error. Link here. The Republican "brand" is damaged beyond repair if this happens. Not that I mind.

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  10. Started by CrackerDog,

    I say you aren't paying attention... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrGPW6RZxTs Even McCain agrees he and Bush are brothers, linked to this collapsing economy.

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  11. The embarrassment of riches. Wow! http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14963.html Interesting how this "Commie" "Terrorist" is appealing to so many folks who call themselves Republicans. Could it be, maybe, that they're looking through the smokescreen and seeing the reality that Obama is really a Centrist with better plans for the future of this country?

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  12. Started by CrackerDog,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9T0FI2axbU Sickening. Do the McCain backers here think this sort of thing belongs in our politics? Step up and put yourself on record.

  13. Started by CrackerDog,

    This is becoming a broken record. Nobody thinks McCain is the right man for our times. Not even the folks who know him best!!! Republican Charles Mathias served in Congress from Maryland for 26, years, in the House for 3 terms beginning in 1961, three terms in the Senate, retiring at the end of the term in 1987. Mathias who has known McCain for many years, does not criticize him in any way. Rather he affirms his choice: Source

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  14. Started by ostrogoth,

    A new 30-second spot on Barack Obama's Web site is urging voters to "talk to your boss" or professor and then take the day off from work or school to volunteer for his campaign on Election Day. The "Take the Day" campaign suggests voters sign up to go to battleground states or work in phone banks closer to home on Nov. 4, when they would normally be at work or in class. "We can't win this election unless every Obama supporter gets out and votes on November 4th. To do that, we need a massive team of volunteers helping us. Can you take next Tuesday off from work, join the final push, and make sure that everyone who supports Barack turns out to vote?" asks the Web …

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  15. Started by Connorbear,

    Just quoting you from September 7th: "McCain is going to win this election. I guarantee it." You still standing by this statement? If the opposite occurs, I will be expecting you to eat crow. Peace

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  16. Started by CrackerDog,

    xxx

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  17. Started by CrackerDog,

    UPDATE: You can see a short video showing the humor Obama uses to deliver this speech. As I've noted many times, there is no way McCain is going to convince America that this guy is anything but the genuine article. ORIGINAL POST: I suggest you read this if you want to cut through the crap some of our right wing members are posting here. If you don't think what Obama here says is compelling, or you simply don't believe him, fine, vote McCain. If, on the other hand, you're touched by his words and you've got no reason to believe McCain more than Barack, think carefully about what we've seen happen to this country over the last 8 years and maybe even conside…

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  18. Started by CrackerDog,

    Check it out. The evidence is clear. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3AvZqYC4mw

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  19. Started by CrackerDog,

    Things in the polls look good. But I have little faith. I have almost no faith in an electorate and an electoral process that twice sent George W. Bush to the White House. I fear what the election of John McCain will mean to this country. I can't imagine four more years of ineffective governance. But, as you know, I see things differently than some others here. I have no intention of gloating or sulking on Wednesday. Regardless of the way this goes, all we can do is move ahead. If McCain wins, I hope the John McCain of 2000 re-emerges. This country deserves at least that. If Obama wins, I pray he's as smart and as energized as he's convinced me he is. We ne…

  20. Started by ostrogoth,

    Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was less than upfront in his half-hour commercial Wednesday night about the costs of his programs and the crushing budget pressures he would face in office. Obama's assertion that "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond" the expense of his promises is accepted only by his partisans. His vow to save money by "eliminating programs that don't work" masks his failure throughout the campaign to specify what those programs are -- beyond the withdrawal of troops from Iraq. A sampling of what voters heard in the ad, and what he didn't tell them: THE SPIN: "That's why my health care plan includes improving informat…

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