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My guess is that JJ and/or the new? QB will demand a new contract and threaten to hold out if it is not received by year 3 (assuming they are holding up their end of the bargain and performing at the Pro Bowl Level). Surprised and Happy JJ decided to buckle and sign a reasonable deal. Proves you aren't going to win in a 'stare down' contest with Poles. 😉 He wanted to be the top-paid CB because he declared himself the best. He got a damn good deal, and so did the Bears. Here are the current figures from OTC. I guess everyone on that list will leapfrog JJ on their next deal, causing JJ to want more money. NFL's highest-paid cornerbacks in 2024 (average salary per year): 1. Packers cornerback Jaire Alexander: $21 million 2. Browns cornerback Denzel Ward: $20.1 million 3. Dolphins cornerback Jalen Ramsey: $20 million 4. Bears CB Jaylon Johnson: $19.8 million 4. Chiefs CB L'Jarius Sneed: $19.8 million 6. Ravens cornerback Marlon Humphrey: $19.5 million 7. Saints cornerback Marshon Lattimore: $19.4 million 7. Cowboys cornerback Trevon Diggs: $19.4 million 9. Bills cornerback Tre'Davious White: $17.3 million 10. Buccaneers cornerback Carlton Davis: $14.8 million

Let's drop it before we start fighting again. If need be, I can lock the threads or delete posts. I really do not want to do either. It has been a good thread. So again, please move on.

Sorry guys, but I deleted the post offering a poll to decide who is at fault for the in-fighting. Truth be told, many involved share the blame. Having a poll will just cause further issues. I don't usually delete posts, so I hope you understand.

Of course, We Are! WELCOME TO CHICAGO QB DRAKE MAYE!

I never threatened to ban you. You implied I was looking for an excuse to tag you. I assumed you meant to use my position as an admin to discipline you. I was just saying that I didn't need to play games to do so. This goes way beyond this silly issue of using the word turd. It goes to showing respect for others when they offer different opinions. Despite you insisting you respect others' opinions, you don't. Anyone who offers a different opinion to you, you jump in and smother the thread with multiple lengthy reasons they are wrong, seemingly trying to force them to agree with you. Then you do silly backhand slaps. For instance, you said Bear fans who like Fields were watching the Notre Dame vs USC game rooting for Williams to have a bad game. Really? I am a ND fan, as many Chicago fans are do to the geographical proximity. I was rooting for ND to crush USC. But not because of Williams. At the time of the game, I had no way of knowing we would have the #1 pick. Hell, at that time, I didn't know much about Williams. I simply wanted ND to win. When the Bears play GB, KC, or PHI, do you root for Love, Mahomes, or Hurt to have a good game? If someone disagrees with you they are "silly" or misinformed, or need to watch more tape. You, maybe without really realizing it, constantly show disrespect for others with differing opinions while trying to tell them at the same time you accept that we all have a right to our opinions. Talk about bullshit?

PHX, I assure you, I am sincere when I say that it offends me when anyone uses what I consider unjustified gutter language to emphasize their dislike for a player. There are far better "intelligent" ways to communicate your dislike for a player. I am not tagging you or looking for an excuse to suspend or ban you. If I really wanted to do either, I could do so without breaking a sweat. A few clicks, and it's done. I am also sick and tired of you calling me out, claiming I am trolling you. There was a time when I greatly respected you as a person and a devoted Bears fan. I still respect you for being a devoted Bears fan. I'm sorry to say I have lost respect for you as a person. You have issues you need to resolve.

Yes, I find it offensive when someone feels they need to use such terms to express their dislike for anyone instead of using better judgment and engaging in intelligent dialogue.

Yes, I am offended. I meant exactly what I said.

And for those underage children who might read this forum, I apologize for the shitty post! 😜

Speaking of all forms of excrement, it's quite simple. If you call my team's starting QB a "piece of shit" I am offended. If you call my team's starting QB a "turd" I am offended. If you preach to me the difference between a piece of shit and a turd, you insult me. So please put an end to all of this crap.

True. Possible. I think Poles liked him enough to have him locked up for 2 years for a low cap hit and not gamble on losing him a 2nd time to a higher bidder.

IDK, Morse is five years older than Bates (32 vs 27) and has a greater cap hit (8.5M vs 5M). I wouldn't be surprised if Poles knew Morse was going to be available when he traded for Bates.

I have seen several mock drafts where "expert analysts" (is there such a creature?) have Daniels rated #2 behind Williams. I, personally, don't. The thing that worries me about Daniels is his weight/strength. Watching the tape of him, he is so damn thin. The guy is going to get killed by NFL brutes. I think Daniels is a fantastic quarterback prospect, but he will need a year with a trainer and dietician to work on adding muscle to his frame, which will allow him to survive in today's NFL. There's no way I'd start him in year one. For that reason, I now shy away from him in this year's draft.

Do you know who McCarty reminds me of? Mack Jones. Scary! LOL

Up until last year, JJ couldn't get TOs. Then, all of a sudden, he gets some picks. Those interceptions added a minimum of 5 million/yr to his contract demands. He insists he is the top CB in the league. I don't see it. We talk about controlling the cap by resetting the QB clock. With Gordon, Smith, and Stevenson, the CB room, with a rookie prospect added, would, IMO, allow us to reset the CB clock. Get a good haul for him. Let someone else gamble that after being paid, he is worth the money demands he is looking for. I like JJ, but it may be time to cash in and move on. I'm sure this is not a popular opinion, but I suspect his play slides after he gets his big pay day. Maybe he will be like Kmet and prove his worth after his new contract. I'm guessing he will be more like Fuller and Jackson, who faded away.

Moral issues? LOL, sorry, misread, Moral, Morale, big difference.

I always worry when we get someone cheap. Is he a bargain basement player or are we lucky and found a good player cheap? From the article I linked below, it seems Poles got a bargain. Good cap numbers for the next two years. Very athletic and has experience at all OL positions, but best suited for guard or center. Bears trade for Bills OL Ryan Bates 2 years after trying to sign him (May need PHX to do his work-around for theathetic.com. LOL)

Why is it odd?

I don't know the guy, but assuming he is a quality starter, it's good to have a solid backup for Center or Guard because we really don't have that on our current roster. So we still need, be it in the draft or FA, another quality option at the Center since it is almost guaranteed there will be injuries on the OL.

Man, you are so paranoid. I am not calling you out, criticizing your opinion, or questioning your intelligence. AND, I am not saying Fields is a great QB! What I AM SAYING is we have too much draft capital and time tied up with his development that we cannot afford to give him away for a third or fourth rounder. This year his trade value is limited. It's a great draft for QB hungry teams. Williams, Maye, Daniels, Nix, Penix, McCarty,etc... This year is a good year for FA QBs (if not tagged or resigned) with Wilson, Mayfield, Cousins, etc... Next year, from what I've been told, the draft sucks for QBs. Now, I assume the Bears will draft a QB this year. Who will they draft, hell, I have no idea. We all seem to feel that whoever we draft should sit for at least the first half of the season before starting. Instead of trying to start Bagent, or signing a back up to bridge the gap while waiting to start our rookie, why not keep Fields and start him? If he plays decent before being benched, with the poor selection of QB options available for QB hungry teams next year (there are always half a dozen or more teams needing a new QB), we could then trade him for possibly a 1st round pick instead of a 3rd or 4th. That to me is maximizing the value of your resources. That doesn't mean I think Fields is a GOAT. It means I am sick and tired of giving players away.

Don't count out the possibility that Poles thinks more of Fields than you do. If I remember correctly, you were quite confident that Flus would be fired at the end of the season. I love his new beard. 😉

The Broncos may have just screwed the Bears. They just informed R Wilson he will be cut. He will still receive 39 Million in 2024 for guaranteed money from his contract. Any team needing a stop-gap quarterback could get Wilson without trading draft capital. Chances are, he would sign a relatively cheap one-year prove-it contract since he will still get the money from Denver. I am guessing that it will take one suitor for Fields out of the equation.

Saw this on NFL.com. It could be someone we would draft. It is a piece on players who excelled in the combine, this one on a Center out of Wisconsin, Tanor Bortolini:

I see an article on bearswire.usatoday promoting OC Andre James of the Raiders as a potential signing to help fix our OL. He's only 26 and from what I read was on the rise entering his prime years. Would this guy fit the bill if we pass on the Denver OC? Is anyone familiar with him? 2023 Stats: 963 snaps played, 4 sacks allowed, 3 penalties, 74.6 PFF grade (16 games)

I can understand the two QBs having different takes on the combine. The Bears may very well draft Williams; if not, whoever trades a King's ransom to get our #1 pick certainly will. So Caleb should be confident he will be the first pick in this year's draft and reap the rewards for such a distinction. On the other hand, Maye was once considered an equal to Caleb, but now some think Daniels will be the 2nd QB off the board, and several other QBs are moving up in round one. So I am sure Maye is concerned about being that guy sitting in the room with all of the other top-ranked players, waiting for his name to be called as he slides down the ladder.