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and point to one time that he gave the team an edge in winning?

perhaps that is our center.

I think from this we can glean that Flus is staying. LOL Just kidding - making fun of all the tea leaf reading in here, including mine

agree keeping mediocrity for the sake of stability just means you will be consistently mediocre.

Plus, at some point you have enough money, and it's the competitive fire in you that drives you - like winning a Super Bowl for the team you used to play for.

especially when that man hasnt proven to be a positive difference maker in giving you an edge to beat opponents, and has in fact been outcoached most of the season. Also, this thread is about blowing it up, but with the exception of the QB, the roster stays, we dont lose ground, we wouldnt be starting from ground zero, wed be starting from here.

That is extremely interesting, Grizz. Obviously Warren is ingratiating himself with some members of the press that he will need as he manages the Bears' image over the next however many years. I wonder if he had any particular influence on them, asking them to hold off on reporting some kinds of things, or encouraging them to report some kinds of things. Some reporters get closer access in exchange for Warren getting more access too. It may be as simple as just to set up connections and conduits for draft smoke, but who here wouldn't have loved to be a fly on the wall for that meeting?

yep, or one penny more than the second highest bidder is willing to pay

I think that definitely happens. Whether he says yes or not is another story. But theyve got to at least reach out and see.

Ok so maybe not Penix LOL

yeah there's what they SHOULD do, and then what they WILL do. Bears gonna Bears. Please prove me wrong Warren! Everyone wants you to be different!

even if you leave last season out of it, youve got situational football errors starting with that 4th and 1 TE sneak against the Packers in the opener. All the short runs out of the gun. Managing 3rd and 4th and short. Keeping Sweat off the field at the end of the game because of the rotation. Calling games too safe. and three historic losses that were 99% wins. All of these are unforced errors. none of them is a result of the other team's players being better. Theyre all straight up mistakes. Add to this all the times we got outcoached and you've got PLENTY to fire him for even if you dont include last year.

yeah thats how it played, like here I am, being honest, Eberflus sucks. It definitely gives the letter credibility.

I've read that Warren is active in football operations. I'm sure he's not in the nitty gritty day to day stuff, but things like coaches and Justin I think he's going to weigh in on. I don't know if he will insist on his preference but I dont know that he won't either. I don't see how anyone can say what Warren will or won't do.

I hope that you telling him you live outside Los Angeles doesnt do anything to your season ticket claim? But other than that, I gotta say, great letter. My favorite line was "I expect the Bears to be the best team in the NFL, not just kind of good enough every 10 years." And you left it as its own paragraph. Awesome. You said it all just right.

hopefully Warren understands this, and with any luck Poles does too.

I think youre probably right. Of course it often takes more than a week to find the replacement, because good assistant coaches are still with their teams in the playoffs, but if youre saying that firings are announced quickly, then I sure dont have any data that says otherwise. I just wonder, if they think they would keep Eberflus unless a top notch option appears, including Jim Harbaugh etc, then they might delay firing him until they had that in hand, but I admit Im just making guesses at scenarios, I havent seen any particular evidence or even info about that.

yeah and it's not even about yesterdays loss. I always thought it was foolish to keep thinking the decision would be about the last game. I think that came from people who kept hoping they would turn it around, and just ran out of games. The thing is, in the NFL, you dont need to be bad to be fired. Simply average is good enough to get you fired. Youre looking for people, especially at QB and coach, who are difference makers. You dont survive in spite of them, you win because of them. I didnt see anything from either Flus or Fields that told me they were clear difference makers. I dont know why we want to hold on to either of them. The best argument for keeping Fields is the draft pick haul of trading down the #1 pick. Or a set of excuses that it wasnt his fault. No one can make the argument that Fields was actually a positive difference maker himself. Same with Eberflus. It was the growth of the players on the roster and the addition of Montez Sweat that made the difference. Time and again we got outcoached. Poor game management. Poor situational football. Hell we had three historically bad losses after losing big leads with chickenshit playcalling. This is not haterade, it's a fair analysis of how bad we've been. It's like playing 5 card draw, and you've got 2, 4, 7, 9 and Q. What could you lose by trading some cards in for the unknown? its not like youve got anything in your hand worth keeping.

it does seem like we keep making the same mistakes over and over. Its new people trying it, but we have no organizational memory. How many OCs have come in thinking the WR screen was gonna be our thing? Over and over they try the same things, they dont look at film from the previous coaches. As an organization, we dont learn. We stay with the soft zones, we stay with the WR screens and we stay with the first year of a rookie QB matched to the last ear of a coaching staff. Please Poles, fire the coaching staff AND bring in a new QB to start at the same time as the new staff. At this point is anyone gonna be worse than what we've seen? What exactly is the risk here? Why are people trying to hang on to something that's working so poorly?

i agree, the whole league already has a book on how to beat him, why would they pay big for him?

its crazy. you talk about a professional opinion about Fields, the Packers made it the cornerstone of their strategy today. So the Packers coaching staff not only has that opinion, they actually bet their own butts on it. It's authentic.

Eberflus has the locker room? Joquan Brisker, Bears SS (criticizing Eberflus' game plan) Demarcus Walker, Bears DE (unwilling to defend what they built this year) And can Justin play QB? Quay Walker, Packers LB (criticizing Field's ability to ever read past the first read, and the Packers basing their game plan on that!) "We know any time we can take away his first read, whether we're in man or zone, he's pretty much going to take off," Walker said. "And whenever we can keep him in the pocket and allow him just to play quarterback and not allow him to run, we've got a real, real good chance of winning the game once we can do that." https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/fields-faces-offseason-of-uncertainty-as-chicago-bears-debate-whether-to-take-a-qb-with-no-1-overall-pick/

Id love to hear it quickly, Ill feel much better about it - but they might want to wait until they have the new guy to let Eberflus go, just to CYA. So I wouldnt necessarily take silence to mean Flus is back. Especially with prospective coaches in the playoffs and unavailable for negotiations etc

one way or another, theres no particular reason to fire Eberflus immediately if you dont have to. You might still be 100% moving on from him, and waiting for the right candidate to sign etc, but its good practice to keep your bases covered until you dont have to. i wouldnt assume that if he isnt fired this week it means he is staying, but I also wouldnt be surprised if they find a new candidate quickly if thats what theyre looking for. The wild card (no pun intended) is coaches that the Bears could be interested in but cant pursue yet because their teams are in the playoffs.

yup.