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DJ made his comment TODAY, Justin is ancient history, and no one is gonna tell me what i can and cant talk about on a sports discussion board. I dont know what goes in in your heads that makes you think youre in charge LOL More like you saw that Pixote suspended me for a week (unfairly) and now you think you can get jabs in. Its dumb. I dont want to fight with you, but your weak attempts at bullying wont be tolerated either. Just say what you want about the Bears, and dont worry about what I choose to discuss. It's not really up to you. I dont know why youd think it was. If youre trying to rile me up tho, its not going to work. Youre just making it all really obvious.

then why even have a discussion board? man you guys are something. Were gonna talk ALL about the offseason, ALL during the offseason, right up until the preseason even though none of us is in the front office LOL Thats why this is talkbears, so we can talk Bears? Its OK. I think DJ is on the block. Maybe they will restructure him, but my gut says hes gone. Not like proof or anything, it could go either way, but I think hes gone.

when you cant stop the run, thats where you start!

For sure. We dont HAVE to do anything, but we can do what we want. Now the DL, that needs help Im sure you agree. And we will need a LB and probably a safety, maybe a CB too, but we need DT and Edge both.

Totally agree DJ wont get better than a 3, too bad but it is what it is. The question, to me, is what his value to the team is worth, vs opening opportunities for the other WRs to step up, and the message in terms of accountability. Obviously clearing $16M off the cap is really helpful too, but i dont know enough about contract restructuring to know what's possible in those scenarios if they do want to keep him. Ive heard some pretty crazy claims about how low the numbers might be from the TTNL guy Cars who is really good with this stuff, but I dont understand how its possible with only one void year? But again, I dont really understand that stuff that well. I do think there is going to be a lot of activity this offseason, especially on the defense. At least 4 new starters, maybe more.

totally agree. I used to think it was keep him or trade him, but now I think maybe they can restructure him to a number that is more commensurate with his productivity and value. I wouldnt mind seeing him gone for the half assed effort tho. Hes definitely a talented player, and great with the ball in his hands after the catch like a running back, but Luther Burden is too, and I think Ben is building a culture of accountability. I wouldnt be surprised if he is gone, but it wouldnt be a total shock if they keep him at a lower cap number. My gut says hes gone, but it's not an obvious answer I guess.

Youd like that. Its what you actually want, and then to play hurt feelings and blame me LOL how pathetic. I'm just gonna keep it to the Bears. You can do whatever you think makes you look good or whatever the hell youre trying to do. This is all so cringey. Grow up dude.

well thats rude, and not much of an argument. DJ Moores comment came out today, so I was adding that to the discussion. Keeping him or trading him is one of the biggest questions of the offseason, and that's just starting, so i think its fine for me to talk about DJ Moore. Seriously, try not to be a jerk if you can? Ive kinda had it with being the bad guy in your little drama. Do uyou remember why you hate me? It's because you said Braxton Jones was good and i said I saw stuff on tape that discounted that. Then you said because you played Offensive Line, I shouldnt have an opinion on it. When I said I would continue to have opinions anyway you declared I was your enemy. So please, grow up. Lets talk about football? This hurt feelings business is getting out of hand on here. I'll continue to talk about the Bears however I want to, and without needing your permission. Thanks.

So now we have heard from both Caleb and DJ Moore about tht pass where the Rams intercepted the ball. Both called it a miscommunication. That means it wasnt an errant throw by Caleb. And sure DJ jogged the last part of the route, but even if he had run full speed, he wouldnt have made it to the ball the way he was going. I think this proves what the analysts said about DJ should have broken his route sooner, underneath the coverage. Hes made that mistake before too - in the Packers game where the ball was intercepted in the left front of the end zone. And another time, when we have film of Caleb yelling at him to undercut the safety. So this wasnt a one off, but a consistent error made over and over. What to do about it is debatable, but the issue is clearly true.

no kidding. the whole thing is a farce anyway.

It IS a strange idea. The best rationalization i came up with (and Im not saying this is true, just the only thing i could think of) is that it is a step up in responsibility even if he doesnt have FINAL say, and since he doesnt have final say he can still move on to a team that wants him to be a GM WITH final say after this move? Also, it's going to be more money too. But after turning down other jobs, this is strange I agree. Im looking forward to what the final contract actually says.

Id rather have Crosby too, but I think that while the cap cost will be similar, the trade cost will be too much for us. But thats just a guess.

ha - good point!

I posted a TTNL video with "Cars" (who is damned smart about the cap) and he showed where with simple restructruing we could create $64M in cap room, and obviously, your source says even more. So we know it's possible. I think the entire defense is getting overhauled. And I wont be shocked to see Trey Hendrickson in blue and orange next year.

ty for that - I havent even looked at all at the draft class yet. Its good that it's rich in DTs. right when we need em.

I agree with all of this, and in the "dead zone" at #25 a trade back does make a lot of sense. But if you think Warren Sapp is there at 15, you might trade up if you really believed. Thats all Im saying, that its possible.

Heres the Sun Times saying definitively that we wont get the picks. https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2025/05/22/bears-joint-practices-bills-dolphins-preseason-opener-date-time-set

Yes. This sounds like a likely plan. Im not sold on Dayo, but the rest of it sounds right. Hendrickson, Sweat and Booker is a good rotation. A disruptive 3T is a real need, and that could be our #1 pick. Also, the 25th pick is kind of nowhere land. I could see us trading up to take a DT in the teens, or down for extra picks to the bottom of the first, or the early second.

yeah i do think its almost impossible to getting a plus starting OL later than the first round (or maybe a few picks into the 2nd) but Im not sure they wont sing a free agent for that. Or ride with Thuney at LT and McFadden or whomever at LG until Trapilo is back. I hope thats not what they do, its better if Thuney plays his natural position all year, but the Bears have options other than a first round pick is all Im saying.

totally agree. the whole thing is nonsense. but Ill take any picks i can get!

But in any case Cunningham is gone to be GM in Atlanta

And NBC reported it too, based on Finley above. Im not saying that makes it true. Im saying its something thats being discussed, and to keep our eyes on. Also, if that is the ruling, expect the Bears to appeal. And *IF* it is true, then the Bears could have blocked the "lateral" move too. But I wouldnt expect they would do that. That how you lose other people wanting to come to your franchise. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/falcons-hire-ian-cunningham-as-new-g-m

Whatever the need at LT is, maybe great - it doesnt change that we desperately also need a pass rush.

Look at Burden perfectly fitting and exceeding DJs role and he is just slightly below Aman-Ra, same for man, and slightly less vs zone. And theres Odunze looking VERY good. Gotta spend time with the jugs machine this offseason Rome.