BearFan PHX

yes! this was a sloppy, forgettable game. Hard to watch, really. The Offense was cooking until the holding call, and then that was it for the 1s. There were some individual flashes on D, but I didnt see a team playing together really.

i agree with this. If Benedet can get his footwork and reaction time to outside moves a little tighter, i think he is our best option behind Trapilo. But he has struggled with those. Personally, id never trust Braxton Jones, but I know it's not like there are lot of options, so i understand the move. But he is still a liability on the field. I still have hope for Benedet, but he's not the answer either, just maybe the best #2 option.

Agree ASHKUM. There's a mental effect that happens when you have a choice between a limited number of options. it's like "which spice girl was the cutest?" and the answer is empircally none of them, but because there are 5 of them you automatically decide which one is the best of the group. Street vendors of cheap jewelry use this trick all the time. They have some average crap earrings, so they put them out next to 3 other ones that are awful. They probably dont even have a supply of the bad ones, just a bag full of the average ones. And next to the others, the mediocre ones look good enough to buy. Itd be true if 2 were playing well too, wed probably all be saying one or the other of them was the best one. But yeah, putting 4 mediocre players together deosnt mean you can craft a good one out of them because of the other ones. I made that point here a few weeks ago, and it seems to be playing out. For me, Benedet is the best of the group, but maybe thats just me falling prey to what i described above. Probably the truth is that none of them is good enough. If Trapilo isnt ready opening day, we will find out who they go with. But that doesnt even mean they wont replace them by week 4 or something with someone else. Hope Trapilo is on his way back quickly, and can play at a high level when he returns.

Benedet not looking perfect either, but he's done pretty well in there I think. I think the main takeaway is that none of them is really good enough to convincingly take the job. So like i thought earlier, having 4 mid players doesnt create a good one. Thank God Trapilo is coming back at some point. He's obviously better than the rest of them "put together"

Second team is in there, Benedet at RT, and Jones still at LT - we will get a longer look at him.

Go for it, just dont whine when you get it back. For you to to think that me suggesting you watch the footage and come up with your own point of view is arrogance on my point, you really have to be butthurt and twisting things. I respect your opinion, I just wonder if youd see what i saw if you watched the same tape. Arrogance would be me saying I see the film better than you, that i know more about it or something. But i routinely say it isnt rocket science, its not ME, its the film. For any of us. What I see looks kinda obvious to me, so I naively think we might agree more if we all saw it. So that would mean I would respect your point of view, and think wed share it. If i thought you were a dumbass, and I was so far above you, then Id think "even if you saw the all 22 you still wouldnt see it ya moron" but I dont think that. So youre just interpreting me all wrong. Youre so busy trying to prove Im a jerk (Im not) that youre forced to take ridiculous positions. Im like some kind of ghost in your head LOL Im just a guy that likes the Bears. People that know me say im nice. I take care of my family, friends and neighbors. I'm a good dad. I knew a lot of people like you in NYC. I got it, youre tough. Cool. Me too. This whole thing is nonsense. If you speak roughly, Ill answer back that way. Ill assume youre enjoying it. If you decide to speak respectfully and normally, then thats what youll get back from me. Its really your choice. Just like watching the tape would be too. its not such a big deal dude.

It's too bad that Benedet has had troubles this week, because I still dont see Braxton as a good player. He just had like 8 or 9 snaps, and already gave up two pressures and a holding call that stalled our drive. Yuck!

disagreeing is fine, being sarcastic and obnoxious isnt. Or actually it is, as long as we all can do it. The tone of this board will be up to the people on it and how they choose to interact. As long as its the same for anyone, i will go whatever the speed of traffic is. If its polite, I would LOVE that. If it's chippy, I'll return in kind too. And Stinger, Im not talking about you, youve been fine for a while. I disagree with you, but you havent been rude or sarcastic.

and I find you to be a fake alpha meathead, so cool.

uh huh. the hostile sarcasm really shows how youre not angry or mad at me. it's a lovely tone. I'll buy what Pix said at face value, but you really need to moderate your tone if your goal is to communicate that youre not angry? And if you want to keep talking tough, thats fine too, just stand behind your words and stop pretending that you're just so innocent LOL either way is fine, I dont care, but both is ridiculous.

im just saying if we watched Benedet on the all 22 from last week, we'd see he didnt give up any sacks, and maybe one pressure, where he got walked back a bit, but still held his ground, and reestablished position before th pocket was threatened. I doubt anyone would have watched the all 22 and claimed differently. I wish I could see Benedets bad snaps from joint practices on tape, because then maybe Id agree with you guys. Right now, barring those two snaps that I only read about, i think Benedet is a good player and a better choice than Braxton Jones. I think we all agree that if Trapilo is ready, he's the best choice at LT?

sheesh so defensive. I didnt say you need to relearn anything, what i said was that *I* have an easier time seeing a player when I am not also involved in the game in real time. I also didnt suggest some pundit that you should listen to - my suggestion inherently says that your own eyes would be the guide, so you wouldnt need to learn anything. Jeez, so angry. I get that you guys dont like me, but just because there are a few of you together, doesnt make you right. Dont buy it, I dont care. But I watch it and I know what I see with my own eyes - it's not rocket science, it's just football. Anyone can see it, but if they refuse to look, then thats another thing entirely.

I personally cant really see a player that well unless they make a big play good or bad during the broadcast. When i go back on the all 22 and focus on them its easier to see what theyre doing and in context, so why. It's $80 for the year to get NFL+ I highly suggest it to anyone that cares enough to post on this board regularly. ANd i wonder if we wouldnt all start to agree more if we all did that?

FOr anyone interested, it's like $80 for the year now: NFL+ and then you can watch and see why all that stuff happens, did Caleb miss an open receiver or was there a reason etc. No need to listen to writers who may or may not have done any homework, or even listen to me or anyone, you can see for yourself. Thats the best way anyway.

well I went back and watched the all 22 of the Cleveland game, and specifically watched him on every snap. Took about 40 minutes. He was fine, good even. Im not sure what you saw. Did you watch more than just the TV broadcast?

That's disappointing. Wish I could see the film!

This is how I've seen that group from the beginning. I said, Benedet is the floor of the group. Some may have wild potential upside, but Benedet is the worst it will get for us at LT, because his worst is the best of the bunch. His worst is serviceable. I dont believe any of the other three are. And of course i think Trapilo, if he looks like last year, is the obvious best of the bunch if he is available. But a couple of weeks ago, even when everyone (all the writers) were saying Benedet is out of the competition now, I held true to what I'd seen. I knew that couldn't be correct. And at least as far as the claim that he was out of the running, and only a backup for RT are concerned, thats obviously now proven false. Will they choose Braxton over Benedet? Remains to be seen, but in my view it's Benedet by a mile.

Apparently Braxton Jones took first team snaps at LT today and Benedet took second team snaps at LT. The idea that Benedet was out of the picture at LT seems to have been to focus the competition between Amagadje and Wills, and not because he was out of it? And hopefully all of that becomes moot with Trapilo coming back!

Amazing news!

Depends on how much he wants too. YOu dont want to overpay a HB unless they are a superstar, and Im not sure Swift is a superstar, he's probably 15th or so in the league. I'm sure Johnson wants a superstar there, but we need a pass rush!, so Swift is the man for now at least.

Here's the sack Wills gave up. I agree with AZ54 on how it happened. If it's an isolated first week mistake, so be it. But if we start to see it regularly, then you just cant trust him. This looks exactly like the bad tape I saw on him several months ago from his time in Cleveland. Caleb is so important if this is how he's gonna be a few times a game, then hes not trustworthy. If it's a one off, and he plays consistently, then great. https://x.com/thedawgspodcast/status/2088696552281837846

Wills has had an imperfect game, but hes got the edge over Amagadje in my book

well Id just called him out too LOL so both of us were wrong LOL

Bagent seems to be heating up now. Looking much better!

Agree about Bush. Gallimore and Van Der Berg looking pretty good. Muhammad not looking lost out there, and Thienemen showing speed and around the ball. WIlls with a bad pressure, and Bagent not looking like someone would trade for him. Its early.