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I think he meant Daniels is a one read QB, which i agree with! Kurt Warner is sometimes really off base I think. At times he's been negative about Williams, and I think time will prove Warner wrong. I like watching all the breakdown guys, Warner included, but there are times I see the same film and disagree with what he says about it. Not the routes and stuff, he's pretty solid with that, but who's open, what the QB should do. But it's OK everyone has their own point of view.

all it takes is ego. I surely hope youre right.

for sure he isnt perfect, and there have been some plays where he held the ball, but Im not sure that wasnt the right thing to do in that case. I do know that in general hes been a good pocket QB like weve never seen before, or maybe since Cutler or Kramer. But obviously CWs ceiling is better. Im on the record disagreeing about Daniles, but we will see in time whether he can be the kind of QB that can take a team to the superbowl. He definitely has amazing athletic skills, but I think they are giving him one read, just like in college, and he isnt getting the "Payton Manning treatment" as you say. And I agree with you - they are throwing him into the deep end. And I would bet heavily that he gets it and will start to really swim

I think that's an old narrative that Caleb holds the ball too long. To make the claim, you need to see the all 22 film, decode the progression and then see if Caleb is getting through his reads. When no one is open, the QB isnt supposed to throw it anyway. I think when you watch the game on TV, its normal to give credit to the QB for everything good that happens, and blame them for everything bad that happens, but thats kind of like blaming a poker player for the cards they got dealt in a particular hand. You cant make guys get open, but if you play enough hands, the good players do usually end up at the final table. But they dont win every hand, just like QBs sometimes hold the ball because no one is open. Other times its because they just hold the ball too long. But again, you gotta take that play by play in the context of the all 22. Otherwise its just a leftover narrative from pre draft time. I think a lot of times media narratives, real or imagined, make a filter we see everything through, and sometimes it's totally off base.

first off, good catch - I didnt mean to include the defensive coaches of course, theyve been doing well. and yes, I absolutely think today was better than the past three weeks - it is my hope they will learn from this, but even if they do, I dont see them giving us an active edge in winning, and I see Caleb having to mitigate their foolishness (which hopefully diminishes) But all in all this was a very important step today. great to see, and the cost of learning this lesson has only been 2 losses. Pretty good.

100% to ALL of that. Especially the idea that Caleb is going to do more than what's on the field, he is going to drag the rest of these clown coaches across the goal line no matter how dumb they are.

damn they came back hard, but thankfully they fell just short. 31-29

its both - theyve been SO bad, but hopefully they are learning lessons from how bad its been. If you can get your butt whipped, learn something about how your fancy crap doesnt work and what it takes to win, and still end up 2-2, thats not so bad.

2-2 and we've learned something - not too bad.

It's great to see how the punter and the defense compliment each other. If we can get the offense working, this will be a tough team.

They ran to eat clock, because weve got a hot punter and defense is playing well. Like you said, no turnover.

YES Roschon beast mode. Maybe Waldron is figuring this out?

Ok we dont need points, we need first downs and to burn the clock - this should be Roschon time. EDIT - after two Swift carries, he is definitely getting north south this drive. Good.

For a "shutdown corner" JJ sure does bring the wood

hes been great today, and hopefully a real weapon for us going forward.

I think Swift is good when there are holes, and Johnson is best in traffic. FOr different games, different guys will be the horse to ride. Trade Khalil Herbert for an OL?

boy did you call it - you can see the difference in body language. Let's hope we can ride this momentum past this game too!

he's been getting better each week. he is gonna be great.

I agree. It just takes a spark to start the fire. Also, to be clear, while I do think DJ Moore quit on that one route, he is overwhelmingly a tough great player for us. I am not down on him at all. He's a great player for us.

for sure. let's hope they can make it more consistent now.

TD! finally - Moore sure earned that one on this drive.

we sure do a lot of depending on WR blocking. Do we think our WRs have a better shot of winning against DBs than our OL does against their DL?

DJ throttled down, Caleb led him correctly. It should have been a TD. But the one to Odunze was CW overthrowing for sure. It was out of the back of the end zone.

so surprised Moore throttled down there. he obviously thought that he wasnt where the ball was going. and that good evidence that Caleb is processing the whole field. CW threw a TD there, Moore missed it.

LOL F=ma!!