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I don't know about Brown but what about the Baylor QB Florence? This video seemed more a highlight film for him. He available?

Well at least I'm consistent, if nothing else. And you're right, if someone does make "ridiculous posts" it should be pointed out. Please tell me where the errors were so I can correct them? All of this, especially the bolded section remains to be seen. IF Williams doesn't manage to stay out of trouble, then who is erroneous? My comment is simply that you cannot guarantee anything. Just like I could not guarantee that Urlacher would have proven better for the team this year....until after the season was over. Your statements are bold and COULD be proven right. My point of the responses in this thread were not necessarily to revive a discussion on whether or not the team made an error in letting Urlacher go. That ship has sailed. I was simply using the comparsion between the most recently 'let go' LB's (Urlacher and Roach) to the newly acquired LB's (Williams and Anderson). I'm still going into it with an open mind...more or less.

Well for one the season has to begin. And I didn't realize that Urlacher "retired". Considering your history of bet making I would caution you against making a bet on those assumptions you just posted.

Maybe you haven't seen where I posted in the past of my viewpoints of stats. My thoughts are they can be translated any which way you see them. For example, you compare Roach to Anderson. In the numbers I see that Anderson actually underperformed Roach last year as opposed to the year prior. I assume your intent was to support the release of Roach and the signing of Anderson. But those numbers don't support (in my viewpoint) a wise move. Although to be honest with you, I didn't have a problem with Roach leaving. I'm just supporting the thought that although "numbers don't lie" they can be skewed to how the reader looks at them. So the fact that Williams was suspended can be viewed in a positive light? Interesting. And fairly enough if Urlacher was able to rebound in 2010-11 what's to say that he wouldn't / couldn't 2012-13? At least being suspended isn't a concern with him. The 'good' (IMHO) of what Emery has done so far is bargain shopping. To this I will agree. Whether that translates to the defense (or the rest of the team) being better, remains to be seen. (Hence the bold on "should")

Sure like Urlacher to Williams: Urlacher - 84 and 53 Williams - 70 and 10 And wasn't that a part of the reason (at least speculation) that Urlacher "fell off" last year? Even though until that point he was leading the team in tackles?

Considering these are 'highlight' clips you are seeing both players at their best. What I see in Anderson is a player who is around the ball for a lot of fumble recoveries. Not so many solo tackles. In fact last year he totaled 39 compared to the previous year of 98. (Compared to Urlacher's 53 and 84 respectively). Why the fall off? Most of the comments to the You Tube video seem to be from Carolina fans one of which describes him as a "solid" player. That and he seems like a good "character" but I'll reserve judgement on his addition to the team. On the other hand, Williams' off field issues aside, he seems to be more the dynamic player. Good solid tackling...when he's on the field. His solo totals for the last two years; 10 and 70. So just lookiing at stats and again considering these clips as "highlights" I'm still going to have to wait and see if in fact the Defense has improved.

I think it definitely remains to be seen. This will in fact be a 'make or break' year for Cutler. I fear that his "gunslinger" style will become more prevelant this year as the excuses of poor OL protection won't be as legit. And that style of play will be his waterloo. I hope to be wrong. If Emery is concerned too they will draft a stronger QB candidate as insurance.

I saw that DT Tommy Kelly was released by Oakland yesterday. And I believe Richard Seymour is still an FA? With Kelly, I believe the Bears made a minor run at him a few years back but lost out to Oakland. Both (Kelly/Seymour) might still have enough to be 'rotational players' as you suggest. Don't know the Bears would need both but maybe one or the other.

Darn. He was about the only OLman worth a darn last couple years. So maybe now the plan should be to draft someone like Barrett Jones (who can do both C/G) and have him replace (if not this year) Garza at Center? Garza should go back to playing Guard.

Bfan4ervr: What's your man Orton doing these days?

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What's lame is that you didn't apparently read any of what I wrote and would rather dismiss the facts for what they are. Instead you are grasping at what equates to weak rhetoric. But I'm not really all that surprised. Lovie's gone, now Urlacher. As you so eloquently pointed out, nothing I can do about it. Oh well...

This seems like a silly post anymore but since I'm bored... The "12 executives" could be a myriad of people involved with NFL teams. Not necessarily '12 owners'. Of, which by the way, would be in the minority considering there are 32 teams. So, using that logic and considering the fact that you can make polls read how you want I could theoretically keep asking 'NFL execs' their opinions were about Urlacher and once I get that magic 12, post what started this whole discussion. Now if we assume these '12' were people like Matt Millen, Dan Snyder, Shahid Khan, J-Lo (part owner of the Dolphins right?), Al Davis, the citizenry of Green Bay (aren't they all "owners"?)... Then I might have to question the collective perspective.

Are you calling me a "moron"? (*knee slapping LOL*) As far as what will and could happen, it's simply speculation at this point. Only time will tell.

Not that it was a "hometown discount" but didn't Brady do something with his contract once to help Welker get re-signed? Then this year when Welker was released and it was all said and done, Robert Kraft comes out and says "I don't answer to Tom Brady".

Are these the same guys who agree with penalizing the RB for putting his head down when he's about to be hit? I heard the majority of owners/execs were for that too.

Who is he? The only one that I can find is a TE that used to play for Tampa Bay..in '07. *edit* never mind, it was DJ Williams. News takes longer to get up here.

No, you're right about Jennings. He was Pro Bowl this year. You're right that the team may have made the right corrective measure of going with the trend of the stronger offense. For the sake of being a fan I just hope it was in fact the right move (you know our half glass discussion?). And you're right that the Defense is good enough still that it could literally run itself for a few years before it would need a strong defensive mind to keep it going. My hope is Mel Tucker is that guy. http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2013/1/21...ive-coordinator

Its posssible, with as outspoken as Urlacher is, that they were concerned he wouldn't completely 'sign up' to the new regime and could have been more a liability to 'losing the locker room'. Because as you say, there are other players on the team that 'played for Lovie' to include Briggs, Tillman, Jennings, Peppers, Conte, Wright. Of those I could see Briggs being a thorn in their side, especially now that Urlacher is gone. And I could theoretically see Peppers going back to what he's been accused of doing before which was "taking plays off". Tillman won't be a problem as he's a stand up guy but I don't know how strong an influence on the rest of the group he can be. I guess time will tell. The notion that Urlacher couldn't "play anymore" is simply wrong. He could play, just not the HOF caliber he was once capable of. You need to realize that the facts show he was on course for leading the team in tackles last year until his injury in week 12(?). Bottom line, the team (to include ownership) made a risky move in simply letting Urlacher go. If the team improves and goes to a Super Bowl without him they look like heroes. If not, and do worse than 10-6, then there will be some explaining to do.

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With Briggs I think he would have understood, had that happened. This would not have been the first time Brian would be returning from an injury. Let alone one where he was out almost all year (like in '09). But the thing to consider now is that not only does Briggs not have the KNOWN of Urlacher at middle but noone at the WLB position he is familar with, since Roach has left. And from my understadnding the new DC was brought in due to his knowledge and some familiarity with the Cover 2. So the team didn't really intend to change the scheme all that much. The safeties (Conte and Wright) are too young to have much say but would have followed the guidance of Urlacher's leadership. Not only because of his veteran status but also because of his familarity with the position. And I think it safe to say that Brian would not have left himself on the field if he didn't think he could at least contribute. Last year had the lockout effect his return somewhat and the injury later in the season, but in both cases he still managed to put up respectable numbers. And by the way RIP Chris Farley!!! He was a master!

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I would be more apt to believe it if I could see it in print. But if in fact it really did happen that way (your story that is) then why wouldn't he "think" that it was fair to start the bidding process at around $11 Million? I believe the contractual length was somewhere near the two-year span so broken down that's roughly $5.5 each year, about what he said took place to begin with. In the article I cited, Urlacher 'assumed' there would be some negotiating...there wasn't (or at least we're led to believe). In the other article I could not find he even further explained this by saying he knew that the high number wasn't probably going to stand. He explained, again, that he assumed that some form of discussions would take place. Further insight to this could be that Urlacher was never present during any discussions between his agents (he had two) and Bears management. So its highly conceivable that he wasn't privvy to every detail. I'm off to buy my poster. Maybe it'll have some worth on Ebay someday.

I would be curious to see how the team ranked exactly one year ago. And in regads to the offense write up, I would bet you could have entered Mike Tice where Trestman's name is at the end of the synopsis. And my oh my "stinger" that 'Moron' comment really touched a nerve. Good thing I 'm not "Frizzy" (whatever that means) or I too would be offended. To borrow a phrase: "Put up a poster and get over it".