jason

To a certain extent, I agree. But if the OC continues to build game plans that protect the weak links in the chain, and make no mistake, there is more than one weak link, then it's an excuse for Lovie and the front office to ignore OL YET AGAIN. At some point you have to sink or swim in one-on-one situations as an NFL player.

Problem is, they'll try to "solve" this by giving Hester end-arounds and/or bubble-screens, both of which can be seen from orbit. Of course, the easy answer to this is a quick slant, but for some reason the Bears refuse to utilize this route more than once again, despite the fact that the Packers have been ripping the Bears a new asshole for over a decade with the exact same route.

I never absolved Tice of the responsibility or blame. I didn't like the inside-hire, and after two games he appears to possibly be in over his head. Most of the people on this board could have called a better game than Tice last night.

Watching the game again, I can see where the early frustration about this defense comes from. In the first quarter alone, I counted three plays where the DL had decent pressure, but not enough that Rodgers was unable to simply wait it out and find a guy sit down in the cover-2 zone. Two times it happened pretty obviously with Jordy Nelson. Then they started off the second quarter with another play that exploited the cover-2, but Finley just straight-up dropped it. Later in the 2nd quarter, Cobb had a key 3rd down catch that was directly attributable to the cover-2. I believe the Bears D played pretty well, but I also believe the Bears were very fortunate to not have given up many more points.

Ordinarily I'd agree, but it's been given time. It's been given years. That should be plenty of time. May protect should not be necessary on every play.

How is Cutler's inability to set his feet his problem? I agree with the thoughts about taking him out of the elite category, mainly because he doesn't handle pressure like an elite QB, but the problem is, his problems are almost exclusively a result of pressure. And unfortunately, it's oil and water, because this OL allows enough pressure to turn coal into diamonds.

Until the following changes, I forsee the same problems we saw tonight. 2012 - DL: 1, OL: 0 2011 - DL: 2, OL: 1 2010 - DL: 4, OL: 7 2009 - DL: 3,4, OL: 7 2008 - DL: 3,7, OL: 1,7 2007 - DL: 2, OL: 4, 7 2006 - DL: 3,5, OL: 6 That's two first round LTs, one of which was an injury question mark coming out of college. Otherwise, OL is pretty much disregarded by this franchise. But DL? Every single year it gets attention. And that's just the draft picks! Don't forget about Gaines Adams. But, yeah, let's solve the problem by trading next year's 7th rounder for another OLineman. That'll work.

Mayock is, in fact, a huge douche, but he was right about that INT.

I agree that Cutler held the ball several times, but I have to wonder why. A few times it was because the WRs were not open. A couple other times it was because Cutler tried to make a second read. More than one or two other times it was because the routes were run poorly. I'm sorry, but if Cutler does not have time to go into his 5 step drop, plant his foot, take a look, and throw the ball, then that's a huge problem. And if he doesn't have time to go to his second read, that's a pretty big damn problem too. The one INT that definitely appears to be 100% on Cutler is the deep out to Marshall. He had enough time to throw the ball, and the route was sufficient, and the WR was open, but Cutler just underthrew it.

The thing I worry about is whether or not Cutler's confidence is shot.

Typically broken plays like that are where the WRs drift with the QB, come back to the ball, or break off a route to beat a safety that has pinched in. Mayock was right. Notice he didn't totally absolve Cutler on that one, but he did note that the WR has to share in the blame.

I don't know what the hell you're watching, but Cutler has been under pressure 95% of the plays. And when he does get some time, the WRs are not open. I'm literally getting texts from friends across the world who are watching this game and telling me how bad the Bears OL sucks. Fans of every team you could think of. If you honestly think this is more on Cutler than the OL, then you should train your seeing eye dog to bark when there is pressure, because you obviously haven't seen what's happening.

Easy answer... First half: Angry Second half: Drunk

I really don't have much to complain about in regards to the defense tonight. They've held the packers defense to minimal production, regardless of whether or not I hate the method they've used. I hate the cover-2 as much as the next guy. I hate the passive nature of it. I don't really like Lovie all that much. But it sure must be difficult to do much when constantly put under the gun by a bad offense.

You got that right. I blame the OL much more than Cutler. The OL is entirely to blame for their own performance, and partially responsible for Cutler's bad performance. It's tough to constantly be under pressure, constantly get hit, constantly have to run for your life, and still keep your eyes up field. Much less make good decisions. The OL has been a problem for several years, and the front office has not done enough to protect their franchise player. The Bears have drafted a defensive lineman in the first three rounds for SEVEN STRAIGHT YEARS for Lovie's damn baby. The OL deserves the same attention. Cutler deserves the protection. This shit is not new! Fix the stinking problem.

Webb never should have been starting. Not last year, not this year. But for some reason, Lovie and Tice want to have sweaty man love with him and refuse to bench him for sucking. Which he does.

No. You are not crazy. It's the most simple solution ever proposed. It's one I've been saying ever since Spencer was signed as the replacement for Olin. And before anyone challenges that concept, it's been gone over before, and it's been proven. Google it. Garza has played pretty well at Center, but if switching him and Spencer means Spencer actually plays decent and Garza plays about the same, it's a no-brainer to make the move.

I remember one really fast spin move that led to a pressure, but that's about it.

Ordinarily I'd agree with you, but the horrendous play had little to do with Tice. The OL was complete garbage, Jay was rattled, and they didn't stand a chance of doing anything worthwhile.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100000006...s-dbs-good-luck Hahaha...reminds me of...

Agreed with the bolded part quite a bit. Keep the faith for both of us, because history indicates it won't last. I just hope he doesn't screw the pooch when the Bears need him the most.

I agree completely. What makes this scary is the Bears' D is predicated on forcing mistakes. Many of those mistakes are via confusion and misdirection. Aaron Rodgers does not get confused very easily. What that leaves is a lot of situations where the Bears will have the deep routes covered up, but the underneath routes wide open. It's been that way for quite some time in Chicago. It's one of the primary reasons the Bears lost the Super Bowl. I expect Rodgers to have a pretty good game with most of his work on 5-10 yard passes. It's up to the Bears to just bat or intercept one or two of those passes and tackle soundly if they want to win. Bears 35 - Packers 31

Because it's unrecognizable and stinks?

Because stuff like this is happening

I have to say I saw this coming. http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/be...-goal-line.html It may be minor right now, but when we get later in the season and Bush has half as many carries but just as many TDs, expect more rumblings from Forte.