jason

Good question. Somehow guys with good hands come to the Bears and lose their hands. I won't make excuses for the WRs, but I'd say it probably has something to do with the fact that the combination of the overly conservative offensive scheme, the poor OL and average QB not providing for the chances of specific routes that other teams typically run, and the horribly inconsistent OC causes understandable complacency.

I know what you're saying, but that's not the point. The poll is for the Bears, in the current situation. And in this current situation, drafting Crabtree at #1 makes very little sense. And if by some chance that someone did grade Crabtree as head and shoulders above other studs at their respective positions, I'd question their grading scheme.

I'm completely baffled at how you guys can actually choose Crabtree. First of all, the Bears could never pass on a franchise QB at the #1 spot. How many more years must we see the graphic of how many QBs the Bears have run through while Farv has been playing? Passing on him would be a horrible PR move. Secondly, with the current setup of the Bears, the OL position is a much more desparate need. Adding a monster LT like Andre Smith would stabilize the OL for years to come, reaping benefits on the running and passing games like. To pick Crabtree first would be a horrible move.

I don't think Furrey is an upgrade to Booker. Sounds like a pointless move to me. As for Earl Bennet, I haven't heard what you are claiming. I know that everyone has their panties in a bunch to get a WR, but maybe, just MAYBE, the sure-handed WR the Bears need is actually already on the roster. Hmm? Using his lack of playing time as your justification is laughable at best considering this coaching staff's inability to judge offensive talent. It's even more comedic when one considers the fact that the anemic Bears' offense SHOULD have had some changes that never took place. It'd be different if the offense was actually good last year.

My signature line should clarify how I feel.

1. The running into the holder call was correct. That's why it's called "running into the holder". If you don't agree, you don't know the rules. He just can't plow the guy who is on his knee like that. There is a reason why that player is specifically allowed to be on his knee and in possession of the ball, without being considered down. And that is why he is afforded protection. 2. The roughing the passer call was complete garbage. I know people will say that a team has to overcome those calls, but when they come at the wrong time, it can destroy a team. Momentum is a real deal, and more than one team has lost when they were set up for success...because of a bad call. The rest? I would say that they were for the most part correct. Meh. I'd say that Pittsburgh clearly got more of the crucial calls, but Arizona clearly made more stupid plays.

And therein lies the problem. Too many late round guys simply don't pan out. Trade out of the first? Fine. I don't like the idea a lot, but it's not too bad if you get a few 2nd rounders, maybe a few 3rd rounders. As already stated, this is probably done with cap considerations in mind - in my opinion this is probably the driving factor.

Bingo. You nailed it right there. End of thread.

Dude, there is no opportunity to agree to disagree in this discussion. You can't agree to disagree with facts. That's like saying I agree to disagree with whether or not the sun is hot. There is talent in every round of the draft. The guys wouldn't be drafted if there were not. HOWEVER, there is statistical PROOF that as each round progresses, there is less and less talent on the whole. Will there be an abberation here and there? Absolutely. Will there be superstars in later rounds who, INDIVIDUALLY, may be better than most of the first rounders? Sure, but not often. The simple FACTS are that better players are that collectively, better players are drafted in the first round, and the talent diminishes collectively as the draft progresses. There is no opportunity to agree to disagree with these facts. Otherwise, the draft order wouldn't matter, there wouldn't draft pick values for trades, and there would be complete chaos within the draft. Teams would forego all their picks in the first three or four rounds so that they could have the entire seventh round of the draft to themselves. That's just effing retarded and you know it. Are there good/great players in later rounds? Yes. Is there an inverse relationship between overall talent level of the players drafted as compared to the round in which they were drafted? Undeniably.

So, what you are saying is, the mocks you do are what you think the Bears WILL DO, and not what you think they SHOULD DO?

It's OK, but I wouldn't be extremely happy. Both OL positions are needed before CB.

1. If this costs a lot, he shouldn't be cut. 2. If it's size and tackling, then that's a cop-out excuse. He's always been this size, and the tackling can be corrected. Besides, he was injured, and before then did fairly well. 3. Drafting a CB in the first round would be effing horrible for the Bears right now. Period. That's not even in the top five needs (OT, OG, QB, WR, FS).

It's as if you raided my brain and stole the thoughts. I can't remember the last time I've felt confident that the entire coaching staff was competent and capable of making the Bears a better team. It's a shame really.

All in fun Pix. I agree that a coach doesn't have to be fired up 100% of the time, but it's nice to see SOME fire out of the coach. Also, since I don't think Lovie and his crew are very good, it's relevant to my point of view.

NFL Films best of the coaches on the sideline Notice it's the best. If Lovie were in there, it would be a lot of mumbling and stuff about "braaaains".

Interesting read from Toub's interview posted on ESPN. Toub is gonna fix Hester My favorite part: DT: We're going to emphasize with him to get a first down; get the ball up the field north and south, get 10 yards and then make a big play from there. If Devin can get that in his mind, then the return TDs will be there again. He spent far too much time going backwards and sideways, thinking he could outrun anyone and everyone...even someone with a great angle on him. Hester is super, but he's not superman.

If that happens, I will murder and gut Mel Kiper Jr, and then wear his hair as a helmet like a follically challenged Leatherface.

I remember a few years ago the Bears had a TE or a FB who was a stud LB in college...but was now converted. The guy wasn't superb by any means, and I could never figure out why they didn't move him from Offense back to his home at Defense. Recasting players seems to happen a lot on the Bears. Meanwhile, guys with defined strengths get put in to do things that everyone in the world knows they aren't built or capable of doing *cough* Wolfe running up the middle on Vikings Defense at the goal line *cough*

Extending on that point, I look at it this way: Would you rather have Bobby Engram and Wes Welker OR Would you rather have Devery Henderson and Lee Evans I think the choice is obvious, which is why I chose option B in the poll.

Oher, period. A LB in the first round this year for the Bears would be ridiculous. It would be stupid. Unless the dude runs a 3.9 forty and benchs a Dodge Charger, drafting a LB, any LB, this year would be one of the stupidest draft day decisions in history. Yes, history.

It's crazy...and I think it'll be BS if he wins. He did well for a ROOKIE QB, but Forte did damn well for a VETERAN RB.

I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. BS. If anything, I'd say it's opposite of what you're trying to say. It would make more sense for a normal tackler to have his arms out, so that he can wrap up after the impact. I know that's how I was taught. You can spear, with or without your arms spread. HOWEVER, if a player is really thinking about spearing, or h2h contact, it would be in his best interest to make himself as compact as possible. That holds true for pretty much all tackling and impact, but truer when a player is relying on a single, blunt-force hit, like one delivered by a spearing motion.

I don't see it happening in a million years. No way.

FYI: You do the same thing when leading with your helmet. Condensed trap muscles and tightened neck help lessen the blow on the spine.

I voted for Forte, and I truly think he deserves it. Neither Flacco nor Ryan deserve it. It's cool and amazing what each has done as a rookie, but when you break it down, they didn't even throw for 20 TDs. Not really rookie of the year numbers if you ask me. Put their numbers against other QBs who are not rookies, and the numbers aren't as impressive. The same doesn't hold true for the RBs. As for Johnson, Forte beat him in just about everything worth mentioning: yards, rushing yards, TDs, receptions, receiving TDs. Steve Slaton is the best competition, and his late surge may push him past Forte in the eyes of the voters.