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They chose Thompson over Wheaton purely because of money. That's the only thing I figure. Wheaton's salary this year and cap hit are substantial. He has the 11th biggest cap hit on the entire team, and dumping this early would be an admission of horrible free agency selection as well as financial obligation. If they had paid him $1M, he'd likely be the one cut.

I'm calling it now. His new nickname is "Yo-Yo."

He's not the worst in the NFL, but he's easily below average. He rarely dominates his opponent, seemingly has at least one crucial penalty a game, and is the source of considerable pressure on the Bears' QBs.

1. It's sort of pathetic the lack of preparation this team had, isn't it? 2. Agreed. 3. Agreed. Sims and Wheaton made no sense if this is their intended usage. 4. Agreed. Shaheen in the 2nd didn't make a lot of sense since they already had Miller and Sims. 5. Agreed. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think Pace knew 2017 was going to suck. I don't think he gave a damn about 2017 at all. Trubisky is starting earlier than his plan because of how bad Glennong played, but otherwise he intended to unleash on 2018 with all his fury. That means Miller is likely gone, and Sims is 100% gone. Shaheen either starts or splits with Miller next year. Add in a 2018 draft class that will almost certainly feature OL & WR, both things necessary for a young QB to prosper, and it looks like Pace was planning this all along. Furthermore, it's possible he went early on Trubisky so that he exploit the more highly touted QB class next year (i.e. hopefully better trades). We shall see, but this season is already done.

I feel like a broken record. I said Massie and Leno weren't good, and advocated for both a FA and draft upgrade. Neither happened. It makes no sense whatsoever. It's also why Whitehair should have been moved to the outside, and Grasu moved to Center. If you are drafting a QB of the future, there should be every effort to make him comfortable. 1. The best way to do this is with an impenetrable OL. With enough time, even the Bears' third-rate WRs at this point could get open. But right now the Bears don't have their best 5 on the field. They are holding on to cohesion for purely the sake of cohesion. If they don't feel Whitehair is good enough to take the LT job, then he's definitely better than what the Bears have at RT. 2. The next best way to do this is a dominating running game. A great running game makes play-action believable, and easy to accomplish because the other team has to bring up the safeties to help. This team is actually not far off from accomplishing this, in my opinion. 3. The third best way to do it is to sign all the receiving weapons possible. If the OL isn't good, and the running game isn't good, then the WR will have to do a lot of chucking and ducking. At that point you need receivers to make continuously great plays. LOL. Not even close.

Wow. I must have missed that stat. That even more of a reason to run double-TE formations and leak a TE out into the zone's soft spot.

Apparently the hits keep on coming. I refuse to believe it's all bad luck, a curse, or something like that. This has to be a team, training, fitness, preparation, or field related problem.

5th! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I nodded while reading this entire post.

What I'd love to see after this game is three things: 1) A new OL configuration of Whitehair/Sitton/Grasu/Long/Leno. 2) 75% of plays with two TEs in the game 3) A very run-heavy offense, with most passes coming off of play-action or bootlegs

Trubisky just got really lucky on his first NFL TD pass. Could the Bears finally be a franchise with a bit of luck?

The Titans fans used to call him "Low Gains".

Good thing Trubisky is fast, because someone is running free after him every other play.

Benny Cunningham just shit all over that dude in the open field. That was an embarrassing one-on-one.

:cheers I honestly would not be upset if the first four rounds were two OTs and two WRs. EDIT: 1-Mike McGlinchey, LT, ND 2-Parris Campbell, WR, Ohio State 3-Orlando Brown, RT, Oklahoma 4-Darren Carrington, WR, Utah

I didn't like the holding call, but that OPI was 100%. You're not allowed to stiff arm the defender's face while the pass is in the air.

Thus far, two false starts and a hold on the OL. Killing the offense one guy at a time.

Who is this Dion Sims guy that just caught a pass? Haven't really seen him during games this year.

Because they're moving the pocket how we've been requesting for about 5-10 years.

Is there such a thing as a coverage safety? I have never heard it uttered before. Floyd should treat the secondary to dinner for that one.

What we know so far, rolling out to the right is a great thing for Trubisky, and suddenly the Bears have a play-action game. He throws absolute bullets while on the move.

How many holding calls is that for him this year? Seems like he's good for one a game. That's a recipe for disaster when we already know Leno and Massie are each going to have at least one boneheaded play themselves. Those mistakes kill drives, just like they did tonight.

Your comments about McCown prove you don't even try to see or understand the other side of the debate. That's one of the reasons for the linear retort. There is more than one way to look at things. McCown as a parallel to Trubisky doesn't work because each player is unique. All McCown proves is the front office was completely wrong about his skillset and ability in the NFL. Point blank, people were wrong about McCown's talent. If Trubisky ends up sucking, then it won't matter when he started because the staff will have been wrong. If he ends up being a HOF QB, then the staff will have been wrong about not starting him over Glennon, who clearly sucked.

I fully understand the opposite point of view. I just vehemently disagree with it. The #2 pick should be a B-level guy already, someone who can play immediately and produce. He's not expected to be an all-star right off the bat, but he should look pro-ready. And if the front office is right, he turns into an A+ guy for years to come. The #2 pick should not be a C-level guy who needs a year of bench time, and who only gets in the game because the "seasoned" veteran in front of him performs much lower than a C-level. I don't assume a franchise QB is easy to find. You're way off there. I've been a champion of the "draft a QB every year"-strategy for quite some time. Furthermore, I've been a Bears' fan my whole life, so I know about the QB deficiencies. But that's what the other rounds are for: development guys. Guys that have incredible promise but might not be ready for some time. The first round is not for developmental players. It's not linear. In fact, it's quite the opposite. Good GMs should be looking for immediate help as well as long-term help. The better the round, the more immediate the help. The later the round, the more long term and hopeful it should be. Every player they draft should be with the intention that he will help the franchise for 5-10 years. Otherwise, why draft them? Cade McNown = Strawman. I never said the GMs and coaches were right most of the time. In fact, this franchise has proven it's the opposite. But the intent should be to find a guy who can contribute immediately if it's a first round pick. And especially if it's a first round QB selected #2 overall. Also, you're completely putting words in my mouth. All the HOF QBs you note didn't start the entire season would have started the entire season in my scenario. If anything, they'd have more stats compiled in their HOF careers. Finally, now you're the one being linear. It's proven since you don't understand my point of view in the least. This has nothing to do with the super bowl. The Bears never had a chance of getting there. This has everything to do with starting the rookie as early as possible to get him as much experience as possible. Every single NFL player will tell you that nothing is a substitute for real game experience. That's the primary reason Trubisky should have been starting. As for fitting into the tanking scenario, in order for most rookie QBs to realize their potential, especially since you all believe Pace is thinking so far ahead, he needs experience. And rookie QBs typically experience bumps, bruises, and lessons along the journey of their rookie year. The team would not be great with or without Trubisky this year, but at least he'd have more games under his belt. ALL experience helps advancement.