BearFan2000

Happy thanksgiving to everyone here. We have much to be thankful for especially this year. This past Tuesday my Dad had a heart attack, and his recovery’s has gone so well that he was able to celebrate Thanksgiving with us today. And my wife and I are about 6 weeks away from welcoming a new Bears fan. Maybe by the time she’s old enough the Bears will be good again. Wishing everyone a happy and safe Thanksgiving!

What happened to Fields, I have no way of watching the game (stuck with the queens vs pukers). Just saw on game cast Fields got hurt?

Sadly admitting fault and steps taken to ensure it won't continue to be a regular thing are two entirely different things. The NFL will screw you and will only admit fault after the fact but nothing ever changes. Fields should also be as protected as other QB's in the league. Tired of seeing him hit late, and hit after he slides with no call, look at the Baltimore game Thursday night defender barely breathes on Jackson and there's a flag. For as long as I can remember the league has allowed our QB's to get killed and only once in a while throwing a flag.

The sad stat in that is that completing 7 passes of 15 yards or more in a single game hasn't happened in over 15 years.

I'm hoping they do give him the extra week hold his return till after the bye. Herbert has shown he can hold down the fort in Monty's stead, no sense in risking brining him back early if you can afford to wait. I do look forward to the 1-2 punch, they can both be explosive in different ways. Herbert can be the lightning to Monty's thunder.

I don't think it's worth exposing Fields to him. The dude literally threw his QB under the bus behind his back on social media. All the talent in the world but he is a cancer, we've got enough issues without adding him.

Part of the reason they only have two playmakers on offense apart from him is his huge 10 year extension they signed him to that will limit what they can do adding talent around him. Injuries have really hurt their run game, but the blocking also isn't what it once was. Their defense is suspect at best, and NFL teams have figured out Reid's system to an extent. Though like you said take out Hill and Kelcie (who's having a bad stretch himself) and voila your team is struggling to manufacture points. And you're more prone to taking risks as your chasing points. Another factor I think is Mahomes has been so reliant on trick throws, and finding WRs running loose in the secondary for easy completions. When you be come reliant on that and the WR's aren't open by a country mile anymore and the trick throws, and risky throws are no longer working you have to try to play more traditionally and as Alaskan pointed out he's struggling with even more traditional throws. At some point it catches up to you and he's showing signs of becoming the boom or bust type QB that he was tagged as pre-draft. He can look like a world beater one week and then pedestrian at best the next. Kinda like when we had good Rex vs bad Rex. For Mahomes I think this is a critical point in his career, can he develop to the point where he can succeed whether the trick plays are working or not. That's the role of a Franchise QB. The longer he's in the league the more he's going to realize that you can only get by on athletic ability and luck so long and at some point you need to develop new skills, and improve others in order to play smarter. He's definitely capable of doing that.

how I ironic is that it takes covid to ensure Nagy has nothing to do with play calling

hard to develop or show progress when you're not given protection and taking a beating every down. At the rate we're going Fields may not physically survive the season.

This team doesn't belong in the playoffs plain and simple. If we got to the post season I want it to be because we deserve to be there, earned it, and have a shot at making some noise or competing. If we some how luck our way in like we did last year we'll be 1 and done like last year. I couldn't even stomach watching all of yesterday's game do we really want to see that kind of performance in a playoff game we have no business being in? Besides the point that to luck into that we would need to have some sort of win streak to pull it off, which to the McCaskey's may look like "progress" and we may get stuck with these clowns for yet another season of mediocrity.

If we're talking interim Head Coach should the Bears possess the kahunas to fire Nagy in season, you're only options for interim are in house. No one worth anything from the outside will come in knowing it's likely going to get blown up in the offseason, to be the HC of a failing team for a short stint is not something any self respecting coach wants on their resume. So names like Desai, Pettin, etc. are the short list if Nagy is removed in season. And while we have to consider what's best for Justin and his development. We're between a rock and a hard place. Stay the course and keep the current pieces in place and get Fields killed cause we don't believe in doing all we can to protect him. If we axe Naggy and promote within we're taking a risk. It's clear watching the players that Nagy's lost the team, they look defeated and uninterested. I didn't even bother watching the second half beyond the first two possessions as I just could no longer watch. As a fan my hope each week of rooting for my Bears has devolved into hoping they don't embarrass themselves in this weeks loss. last two weeks they've done just that.

what's sad is this game is only half over, question is do I even watch the second half or do something more productive with my time...

The only bright spot so far is the same bright spot from last week. Been impressed with Herbert filling in for Monty. The kid has good vision and speed in change of direction.

can we just leave Nagy in Tampa when team flies back to Chicago?

just keeps getting worse

Your torturing yourself

Kmet drops a first down, drive stalls... This game could be over well before halftime.

that didn't take long...

Maybe someone gave him a fake small one and a broken headset so he could make believe he is calling plays. Like a Fisher Price "my first play calling set"

...and twice on Sundays. We really do Justin a disservice by trying to make him into a pocket passer like we tried with Mitch. It's just not their style and doesn't fit their unique skills. A Mobile QB needs the pocket to move, needs to vary the launch point. Right now we make it easy for defenses because we keep the same launch point and D-Lines can just tee off. What we are doing does't take advantage of his speed and the threat of run. The game sure looked like Nagy was calling the plays, or at least is having way too much input ("everything goes through him"). They need to simplify things, and create an offensive scheme that caters to what Fields does best. To do that you have to be willing to re-think your philosophy at least in the short term, and then slowly add things in. Baltimore should be the blueprint we try to follow or at least pattern off of. Let your athlete be an athlete rather than make them something they are not.

It has a lot to do with culture and an organization that's either committed to winning football or doing just enough to keep fans in the stands and money rolling in. In the last 20-30 years the Bears organization has proven time and time again they are ok with mediocre with an occasional bright spot season or two sprinkled in (blind squirrel). Over that span we've had players who have displayed that hunger to win, but the overall team has not often shown that kind of hunger. The Bears have been in a holding pattern for so long now it's become habit. With the talent on this roster, this should have been at least a competitive game and it felt like that for all of a quarter or so, but as per usual the wheels fall off and we lose. There were blow and missed calls that certainly didn't help, but our own play didn't help us either. Good teams can overcome bad calls, or bad breaks. The Bears are just not a good "team." We have plenty of talent, yet we never play up to our potential as a group. Fields shows some promise but is making plenty of rookie mistakes. Too often he tries to make something happen when there's nothing there and needs to learn sometimes it's ok to throw the ball away. Live to fight another down or series. It's just a matter of recognizing when a play is dead, you don't have to be the hero every snap. The late sack he took that put us out of FG range effectively eliminating any chance of us potentially tying the game with a FG there and possible a defensive stop to give the offense a chance to score on the next possession. I get that Justin feels pressure to be everything us fans have been hoping for at the QB position for a long time. That can be a huge weight if you let it. Just focus on playing your game, focus on the game one play at a time. I do believe that Fields is a resilient kid and the best is yet to come. But in the short term he looks like he's trying to do too much on every play rather than just take what's there. A three and out is better than forcing something that's not there. On the Interception, and this should come in time, if you don't see a flag even if it's obvious it should have been a free play, don't just assume (especially when you play the packers) that a flag will be thrown for the offsides. Flag or not where he placed the ball there were no Bears receivers in the area. On a free play you have the freedom to take a chance but it should be reasonable chance not just throw it deep and hope one of your guys is there to catch it. I don't remember if he was hit on the throw and that altered the ball, but point being outside of a Hail Mary play, you need to throw it in the vicinity of your receiver. He got away with one later that was like a carbon copy of that play, only got away with it because the Packers DB was out of bounds before he could establish possession. Again no one near the DB, not sure who he was throwing to or if the ball just sailed on him. Mistakes will happen and I feel like Fields will grow from this and he has the desire and work ethic to improve. A big part of the adjustment college QB's need to make in the NFL is college defenses are generally weaker than pro defenses. Your decisions have to be more precise, decisive, and the windows are tighter, and the coverages are more complex. The D played well early on but as the game wore on they gave more and more. I like what Dessi has done and our pass rush has looked tons better this season and is more reminiscent of Fangio's D. But the back end is and will continue to be a liability. I can't think that we couldn't bring in someone who can actually tackle in place of Jackson. I don't see how there can't be someone out there that can play at least average to take his spot. 2019 is looking more and more like a mirage that he's lived off of since then. If Adams doesn't step out of bound he would have given up a TD after just a shoulder bump. Be a man and tackle him, do your job!!!. Just like one side of the ball failing to hold up its end and pull its weight I feel like the back end of our D keeps letting down the front 7, and that has to get old. They are working their butts off only to see the secondary fail to make a play. Complimentary football is so important to consistent success. Late in the game when the offense pulls us to within 3, and instead of coming up with a key stop to give the offense the chance to take the lead, the D just let's GB march down the field and score. Even worse we allowed Rodgers to make our D look silly on a TD run that should not have happened. After he scores the TD he goes to the stands and taunts us by saying "I own you." I hate Rodgers and Green Bay with a passion, but it burns just as much because he's right. And Bears management is ok with this. We've beaten GB what 4 times in the last 7years? They have owned us and to Rodgers has made a career of making us look bad. Bears vs Packers isn't so much a rivalry as it is a tradition that GB will twice a year embarrass us. I for one will admit I'm jealous of their success, and the luck they've had over the years going from HOF QB to HOF QB while we repeatedly get the QB position wrong. It's simply salt in the wound watching them regularly get favorable treatment by the officials, not just against us but in general. In general they have been the better run organization, and again we look like we're playing checkers while they are playing chess.

with you 100%, they need to blow this staff up and Pace like they should have last offseason. They are either going to ruin Fields or get him killed.

Word's can't describe how much I hate the packers and Rodger's. I hope the moment he leaves they suck in the basement of the NFL for decades.

what is the point of calling these time outs after they get first downs inside 2 min??? why prolong this?

As fast and elusive as Fields is supposed to be he sure seems to get run down in the backfield a lot. Just took another sack that takes us out of FG range. 4th and forever.