Stinger226

I agree they may draft 2 wrs, but have no thoughts it might be in the first round. I have my own thoughts on player value, but it is based on other peoples opinions that have put time in evaluating the players. The experts are only right half the time so none of all of opinions really mater. My whole point of not drafting a WR at 8 is based on several reasons now just because he drafted White and it did not turn out. As I mentioned to Bowling.

If he drafts a WR that fails, he loses his job, he absolutely has that in the back of his mind. If he was a top 10 rated player, that may be different but most dont have him there. The thing to keep in mind is he will try to fill needs in FA so he is not pinned to a position of need. He will resign Fuller and then add a Amerson or Breeland, not needing a CB at 8. He will resign Meredith and maybe Wright and go out and grab a M. Lee and P. Richardson, not making that position so important to fill at 8. He will resign Houston, bring in a Aaron Lynch and bring back C. Jones. still a need but can wait until the second round. Will keep Willie Young for one more year. At 8 he will take the BPA one of Q. Nelson/OG Fritzpatrick/DB T. Edmunds/edge C. Williams/OT

I think your spot on with also resigning C. Jones that can play outside. Besides lynch, you also have K Ealy-J. Gallette-A Clayborne. One of these will be here.

It may turn out to be true, but in all of this we are trying to predict what the Bears will do. Pace will not draft a WR at 8 because: White Last year 3 top 10 WRs did nothing special to contribute to their teams in the first year. History tells us half of the first round picks will be busts. He simply will not take a chance on a WR at 8 when the consensus tells us he is not worth it. Now if we move back to the middle of the round, I think that is possible. He will go with a OLB-CB-OL in the first round.

I keep seeing people put Ridley as our first pick at 8 but overall, the highest I see WRs rated is in the teens as far as value. Like Mongo said, having White on his resume will cause Pace to over think drafting a WR at that high a spot. Also league history shows that you have just as many busts in the first round as hits. Also many later round WRs have been successful in recent drafts. Last year 3 WRs were taken in the first round(top 10). Corey Davis, Mike Williams, John Ross. Not one would be considered successful last year. The only 2 good rookie WRs last year were a late 2nd round and early 3rd round. JuJu and Cooper Kupp. We aint taking a WR early, period.

We all keep looking at filling needs with the 8th pick and if we go with just BPA, how much does that change things? To be realistic, there will be 3 QBs and a RB taken in front of us, so that leaves us with the fourth best non glamour position player. The possibility exists a 4th QB taken or gives us a trade back scenario at our spot. BPAs consensus: The three websites I like for player evaluation are GBNDR, Draft Countdown and Matt Miller so those are what is used in this post. Q. Nelson/OG M. Friztpatrick/DB B. Chubb/EDGE these 3 are in the top 10 in all projections. I think if any are available, we draft him, period. Names mentioned in top 10 D. Ward/CB C. Williams/OT D. James/S R.Smith/ILB T Edmunds/EDGE V.Veta/DL If the first 3 are gone, who would be next? I think rating them all close in value, we favor EDGE or OT over the other positions. T. Edmunds or C. Williams would be our pick.

I just seen where AC is 29 and will turn 30 in this season, which probably doesnt make that much of a difference. Maybe we give him a 2 year deal with good upfront money to allow for a rookie to grow into his role that we draft. Another name I notice was Aaron Lynch, played with Fangio as a rookie and had 6 sacks in limited playing time. 6-6 270 could replace McPhee. Upside expectations would only be 8-10 sacks at the most but at 24 has time to grow and replace the aging Willie Young.

I like the idea of someone putting the whole consensus together FA, draft , trades , cuts but just find some of his ideas as unrealistic. I think they go in another direction with Amukamara, younger with more play maker ability. someone with more ints. There is no way we have that many trades, maybe one. Like you said, teams will wait for Sitton to be cut , not trade for him.

https://nflmocks.com/2018/02/04/chicago-bea...on-to-the-wind/ There are a couple of moves I do not agree with but overall a pretty good off season. Trading Bullard for a 5th, not a good idea. Drafting James Daniels/OC with #22 seems like a reach. Not cutting Cooper. Otherwise, like the overall picture.

I didnt pay attention to his age, not Paces MO going after older players.

I agree with your opinions except paying 14 mil a year to a slot WR with a 8.8 yard per catch last year. It will not happen here. Now if he signs for much less, then I think they will but not a 12-14 mil a year contract.

I would be good with your scenario because upgrading the OL at two positions,Im all in on. I guess the only difference in our opinions is how good McG will be. We will know in 3 years. Another scenario I would be good with is grabbing Zack Fulton in FA and plugging him in at OC and have Whitehair at LG and then drafting a potential replacement for RT in the second or third.

I seen one named mentioned that I never consdiered. Adrian Clayborn had 9.5 sacks last year and has never had any injures concerns. He would fit in the McPhee role if we got him. Last year he made 5 mil, so he will probably get a contract worth maybe 8-9 a year. The Falcons are low on cap money, so I dont see them in play to resign him.

I think they front loaded the contract because they have cap room now and in two years will give them flexibility to resign or add players when they will be competing.

Moncrief could be in play, but at 32 I dont see us going after Danny

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2757373...owl-predictions I am all in on this draft. 1 Q. Nelson/LG stud stud stud 2 C. Kirk/WR ( 4.4 speed) our deep threat 4a H Mata'afa/ Edge (in this draft T. Edmunds and l. Carter are still available) I dont see that happening. HM had 22.5 TFL and 10.5 Ss at 6'2" 252 could fill the McPhee role 4b M Ateman/WR ( our Jeffery's type) 5 B J Hill/5t huge and active 6 J Noteboom/OT ( keep Massie for one year and groom him to take his place) 7 Deatrick Nichols/CB speed guy with 11 Ints in 3 years.

The more I get lost in mock drafts and Big Boards, the more I think our pick will be between: Q Nelson or T. Edmunds Who do you take? Im all in on Nelson

I agree they will decide between Wilson or Wright and I also like Lee's upside but not with Grant. I think they need a deep threat and Grant is not that type of WR. I suggested Tyrell Williams a 6'3" wideout with 4.4 speed. I think if not him at least one speed guy. John Brown from Ariz Paul Richardson 4.4 speed but not really that deep threat. Donte Moncrief has 4.4 speed Jaron Brown 4.4 speed Their are only a few deep threats in FA and I think we will bring one in to stretch the field.

I agree he will be , but he is not a #1 and will be paid #1 money. I dont see Pace doing that. I see us signing a couple of WRs for the same money we could get him for. Last year we took chances how non productive WRs but going in we had Meredith and White sitting there before they got hurt. This year we will get a more productive player on the rise , and having several weapons will fit the scheme more than one good slot WR. Those 3 plus one draft pick with bringing back Meredith sounds more realistic to me. Landry caught 112 passes but for 8.8 yards last year. Aaron Leming( who I like) put out a probably pay schedule for FA WRs. I just dont see us paying 14m for a slot WR. Jarvis Landry (Miami) $14M Allen Robinson (Jacksonville) *IR* $11M Sammy Watkins (Buffalo) $10M Paul Richardson (Seattle) $8M Marqise Lee (Jacksonville) $9M Jordan Matthews (Bills) $7M Terrelle Pryor (Washington) $7M Albert Wilson (Kansas City) $6M Jaron Brown (Arizona) $6M Donte Moncrief (Indianapolis) $5M John Brown (Arizona) $6M Taylor Gabriel (Atlanta) $5M Ryan Grant (Washington) $5M Kendall Wright (Chicago) $4M Eric Decker (Tennessee) $4M

I don't see us paying Landry the money he will command.

one name missing on this list is Tyrell Williams/ Chargers. He is a RFA but with the money they are paying Allen, Benjamin and last year 1st round WR Williams, no way they offer him any king of money to stay. 6'3" 205 with 4.4 speed. A deep threat with YAC ability.

I agree with the positions of need. I suspect we may draft 2 WRs, its a deep but not outstanding group. still stuck on Q. Nelson if available. transcending player. Most RPOs are the middle running lanes, so having a stud there would be huge.

A lot of the new offense will be RPOs. In that scheme most runs are in the middle 3 lanes, so securing a solid Oline is imperative. Sitton is on the downside but probably has one good year left in him. Whitehair with better coaching will have more consistent play. It would be hard to say Long would ever be considered a bust. His first two years he went to the pro bowl. His injuries have been in his last 2 years. HH runs a zone blocking scheme that includes R/P options. Exactly what is best for the offense we will be running. Athletic OLs fit well in those schemes. I think we keep Leno with better coaching will maybe fall in the top half of the league for LTs this year. As long as Long gets healhty we have Whitehair and Long as strengths going forward. Massie may be improved under HH but I think they upgrade both LG and RT so we can go forward with a quality line for the next 5 years. There is many examples of how good offensive lines are built. We have Kush and Morgan coming back for depth we did not have last year. Q, Nelson is the best OL in this draft and I believe if he is still there we grab him. and then in the middle rounds, grab a OT that can compete with Massie. We think we now have a QB and two very good RBs . We can add WRs in FA and the draft that will help us get to the next level. Another option would be grabbing a Zack Fulton that is 26 and can play LG or OC. Then they can decide where Whitehair is best at and have a young group. Then take a OT in one of the first two rounds and secure a solid line. The OL is important because it affects both the running game and protects our most important player, MT.

I think in the Nagy type of offense, see KC and also Eagles, their is only need for 2, type of WRs ,Inman plays. I think Meredith and Lee(in my scenario) fill that role and have more upside than Inman. Also I made the choice of Wilson(Nagy familiar with) and Wright, both play the slot position. Ridley at 8 would be a reach. I have looked at a ton of mock drafts and ratings of player value pertaining to the draft, and the value of the WRs will be late first round . There is always many good players come out of the draft. If we draft Q. Nelson at 8 and he becomes a 8 year all pro guard, that is considered a better value than drafting Ridley at 8 that will be a NFL starter, but his ceiling may only be a #2. 3 years from now we will have answers to all these questions. With the new coaching staff we just dont know what they value. We need to upgrade the OL and also more so the WR group. Do you start by solidifying the OL first? Protecting MT and making the running game better? Or adding playmakers right away? If you look at history, there is just as many misses as hits in the first round at WR.(Kevin White) So I think we draft later than the first round to fill those positions.