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It would be nice to have him but with a terrible cap situation, he would be a luxury. They tried to fit him into the offense, but he was just best as a special teams guy. That 5 mil we might have to pay him can be used for a WR, TE or another RB. We cant keep everyone.

All this does is cover the couple of transactions they have did so far. Next will be a few cuts. I suspect the bargain players wont be coming until after the draft and people figure out where they are at.

Does somebody know the rules for actions done now and how can you wait until after June 1 to designate it. I think if the Wilson traded happen in the next few weeks, you cant designate it to a post June 1 trade. I always see cuts being post but you can do that with trades?

Somebody paid him 16 mil for two years at his age, damn straight he wants to stay here. I would not mind having him back but not at his 10 mil for this year. 5 mil a year would be okay. Maybe they cut him and then give him a two year 5 mil a year contract.

One deal done. Who is the next to get cut? Skine and Massie already gone. Graham is next but if we really have a shot at Wilson, they are friends.

Duke Shelly was a 6th round pick and I think he ends up starting at the NB spot. So there is value in that round and Pace has history of finding players there. The more darts you have to throw, the better to find players.

I was top of the list on complaining about giving Graham a money contract but he was worth it. The problem with Graham is we need the cap space and he is a 7 mil cut. Maybe he takes adding on a year and cutting he cost but how many vets do that? We have to get cap space to even be able to draft anybody(rookie salaries) and pay for Robinson. Someone has to go. Who. Easy to say Leno(Massie is gone) but you have to replace those players that will cost something. As much as Leno has to be upgraded, I think they keep him one more year and just grab a rookie that plays RT for at least this year. Bars is still around and has the body of a LT. I would like to see him takes Lenos job but not sure if that is a upgrade. Defensively( if we dont cut anybody) will be better just with adding Goldman back and then sign a cheap safety. Also remember Jordon Lucas (S) opted out last year and he was going to compete for a starter job. Maybe he can do that.

With so many teams in cap hell and really good players being released , we could probably grab a few of those players on cheap contracts and upgrade the overall talent of this team. If we only had to give up 3 first round players, it would be stupid not to grab Wilson(wont happen). You figure one of those picks would be a QB,(just traded for one) so you are basically giving up 2 first round picks. We absolutely would be playoff bound. This roster has a lot of good talent. We need to upgrade OT (draft)2nd and 3rd. We can get some help in FA at WR and TE. The trade scenario would be a problem if we had to give up young good players. Johnson,. Smith, Nichols? We have to add not tear down.

Likely playing under the tag but depends on what they do at QB. If they can get a Winston 7-9 mil, then they may find the money to pay him. If they luck out and get a crazy trade, the money will be gone. (paying the tag or 20-22 mil on a new contract) It will have a domino affect.

IF the Bears dont have a winning record this year, Pace and Nagy are probably both gone. They are trying to obtain a different QB room, whether that succeeds or not, getting a 3rd round pick for AROB doesnt really say(going for it). I would take AROB over all but maybe Godwin being he is younger and will be around a 16-18 mil a year guy. Where as AROB will be 20-22 mil a year guy. If I was a GM, I would not have to think about that very long. (not giving up draft capital, paying less to a younger guy)

No way anyone's offering a first for him. If they have the cap money to sign him, there are several choices that wouldnt cost anything in free agency. I read where maybe a 2nd and probably a 3rd because they would then have to pay him 20 mil for the next 3 or 4 years.

Since Wilson or Watson wont happen, taking a chance on Winston if our best option. NO is in worst shape than we are with the cap, so if we had to bid on him, we should be able to pay more. Otherwise, Trading for a Minshew would be my next choice. Will come cheap and has had some moments in his tenure so far. Will not cost much on the cap. Foles is here and drafting a prospect would have at least create a little excitement if our options fall on their face.

When they got rid of Kyle , he couldnt stay on the field and wasnt playing well. He will be 33 in December. We are set in the middle and he will not sign somewhere to be a backup. I would say a big fat NO. I hope he does well, but will not be dominating anyone at a high level.

IF they are going for it to save their jobs, why would they tag him and trade him? There are a few good WRs out there in FA but they will cost almost as much as the tag. I was reading where they might be able to get a 2nd for him but more likely a 3rd because of the money he will cost. There is only a handful of teams with the ability to sign expensive players. Most teams have cap issues. So why wouldnt they just sign Golliday-Godwin-JuJu instead of giving up draft capital for an expensive player.

That will be our savior for the year, getting good players on short cheap deals.

I dont think he has inside info, just speculating. He does like trading for Sam Darnold as a good idea.

I heard today that because they have not established the cap for next year yet, they move tag deadline one week.

Which one is the surprise move? I think they might just redo Hicks contract to save some money and not release him. I think the Wilson dream is dead and they cut Graham.

Ya I just seen that he is planning on retiring, maybe its a money ploy?

I hope you're right. Watch them pull a 10-6 record and make the playoffs , just enough to piss us off and then they give them extensions.

I already know how you feel, Im kind of trying to get reactions from other members. I agree with most of your opinions, I just am trying to have a more positive take on this year to hope we get better. Would you like to make a gentlemen's bet, Leno is still on the roster this year?

Unless they dismantle the D to get a QB, if almost everyone is back, we can have a top 5 D. If they have more consistently play at QB, upgrade the OL, and give the ball to Monty, we could have a successful year. I heard The No Name Football podcast( Olin Kreutz) that had a OL guru on. He stated that the 2nd best OT in the draft is Teven Jenkins/ RT. Will definitely be there at our pick, power, technic, and nasty, but is only mentioned as a RT. So if we got him, that means if we draft another OT is will only be a LT prospect and not start this year. He also said that Leno is a competent LT. His problem is his size, so when he gets beat, it just looks bad, but is consistent most of the time. He continuedly gets ranked in the middle of LTs . So, would everyone be okay if Leno comes back for one more year with a rookie behind him? This would have Leno,-Daniels-Mustifer-Whitehair-Jenkins. That would be an upgrade over last year. He mentioned that Bars could actually end up being a starter at one of the OT spots if necessary.

The cause of Pace and Nagy being here is a 12-4 season with a double donk away from being in the NFC playoff game at home game against LA. Coach of the year gives him a few years so two 8-8s are not going to eliminate a 12-4 season. I think if this season is mediocre or bad the possibility exists Pace could be gone and Nagy stay. The talk will be he hasnt had his QB to implement his system. Fair or not fair that may happen. The talk will be is the new guy better than what you have. I think Nagy is not a good OC but may be a good coach. He is popular with his team, pushes positive vibes. Tomlin is an example, he has been successful not being a defensive or offensive guru. I think the majority of blame for this team is Pace which is drafting better the last two years w/o first round picks. PLUS having this pandemic year has forced teams to worry about the bottom line more with disruption in a normal season. Bears dont have other businesses to rely on support, Bears are it for the McCaskey's . What if , the defense is back, Quinn and Mack live up to their contracts. We get better QB play and Monty is one of the leading rushers in the league? We make the playoffs with a winning record. These two are getting extensions for better of worse.

I think they end up tagging AROB because with the team in win now mode, why would they trade him?

We dont have a lot of control over who ends up here, we have to be lucky. To stay at 20 , I dont think any of the top 5 are there, but maybe a Trask, Mills , or Mond end up being upside QBs that would not be worth the first round but as a 2nd round pic.