Stinger226
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nobody, on vet mins, we can sign as many as we want. It is the top 51 or 53 contracts, so others below that amount would not be counted.
We need to go out and put a stamp on J. Allen and get him here. Seahawks arent going to pay him big money. give him a 1 year 6 mil and have him grab 10 sacks and everybody would be content with that. We can play with the cap to get that done.
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CBS has him at 5-11", same as Pryor...I think you could be thinking of his teammate LaMarcus Joyner who is 5-8.
Your right , I screwed that up.
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I'm torn. The trades are horrible value, and I hate some of the picks, but some are really good.
First of all, the Bears lose on all three trades trades on the draft value chart.
The Bears and Chiefs trade ends up being 1100 for 1000.
The Bears and Niners trade ends up being 760 for 671.2.
The Bears and Titans trade ends up being 54 for 45.9.
That's a net loss of 196.9. Horrible.
As far as the draft goes...
1. Mosley - ILB - Alabama - I get BPA, but drafting a first round LB - arguably the Bears strongest position in terms of talent and depth - is not how this draft should start.
2. Jernigan - DT - Fl. St. - He would be a steal, for sure, so that's at least a bright spot.
3. Brooks - S - Fl. St. - For all the picks he acquired, the best he could do to fix the Bears' current #1 issue (i.e. FS) was to get a guy from Florida State (Brooks) who is slow, undersized, has horrible hands, and is a weak hitter?
3. McGill - CB - Utah - Tall DB who could sit/learn for a year or two. But not that great right now.
4. Sankey - RB - Washington - I'm typically against a RB in this draft...but this guy collected so many picks that this isn't horrible. And to get the potential #1 RB in the 4th is a solid value.
4. Martin C - USC - Same as the Sankey pick in terms of value. Many have Martin as the #1 Center.
5. Reid - DT - Princeton - Hate this pick. Dude's gonna be a bust. 3.5 sacks in the Ivy League? Seriously?
5. Martin - DE - UNC - Hate this pick. Just about everyone says this guy is very unrefined, lacks burst and skill, and isn't very strong.
5. Murray - QB - UGA - I like this pick. He has skill and if he recovers from injury he'll prove people wrong.
6. Jones - WR - ND - Hate this pick. He's the exact WR the Bears don't need. Not a burner, and not very big.
6. Colvin - CB - OK - Hate this pick. Undisciplined and slow.
7. Linder - G - Miami - I guess this one isn't horrible, especially for the 7th. But he definitely is not someone the Bears want on the field.
7. Connor - QB - S.Car. - Hate this pick. Why get a second rookie QB, especially one with such limited upside?
Out of all that, Mosley is probably the only guy that sees the field as a full time player. And it's at a position of abundance. Jernigan definitely makes the rotation. Sankey, Martin, and Murray are good picks for the Bears future. Overall this draft plan would not make me happy at all. And Conte would STILL be starting.
With that number of picks , I would be picking a lot different if it was my call.
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I think Matthews would make this offense unstoppable, but it would hurt the defense. Overall, I don't like this draft, but I think this would be Forte's reaction.
Martin and Fuller just not enough defense, you almost have to take Mathews with that pick or someone gives you alot of picks for it.
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Sorta unrelated to your question but still Bears..... So now that Devin is gone, who changes the banner for the site? I think Brian (?) was asking about this a year or so ago but nothing happened. My thought at the time would be to do something 'old school' with pics of historic players; Butkus, GSH, Payton, Sayers, Luckman...etc
Payton is my all time favorite player.(probably cause I had season tickets when he played. ) Good player , good man, prankster like me.
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I know it's bleacher report, but Matt Miller does deserve a little respect.... He has Mundy as the 26th ranked safety (out if 75)....Wright/Conte didn't even make the list.
I think he's our starting SS and we'll grab our FS in the draft (Unless they surprise us and sign Clemons).
I like Matt Miller I think he knows his shit and hits right most of the time.
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I would love to get both Ward and Bucannon, but doubt if Ward makes it out of 2 nd round
If you like trades this will knock your sox off.
http://nflmocks.com/2014/03/19/chicago-bea...nfl-mock-draft/
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I think this is one of the richest safety drafts in a long time. If we don't take Dix, I like Ward in RD 2-3. The biggest impact we need is at DT, I think we have to take Donald if he's even there.
1 Donald DT
2 Bucannon SS
3 Ward FS
4 Hart DE
5 Ellis DT
6 Aikens CB
6 Best TE
I would love to get both Ward and Bucannon, but doubt if Ward makes it out of 2 nd round
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In this scenario, where we trade down and Donald is still there (That's what the article suggests) I'd probably go with(assuming we get a 2nd rounder for trading down)....
1R- Aaron Donald DT- "A dream for teams looking for a 3T DT" -
2R- Terrance Brooks or Ed Reynolds FS- Both are said to be good in coverage and that's what we need
2R- Kareem Martin DE- I'm less pessimistic about Houston/Young than everyone else here, but depth is still a plus to keep everyone fresh
3R- Charles Sims RB- RB needs to be addressed fairly early IMO, can Forte stay healthy 2 years in a row???
4R- C.J. Fiedeorowicz TE- After the Rosario sign/cut/sign escapades I get the feeling they're not 100% sold on him. C.J. makes the red zone O deadly.
5R- Walt Aikens CB- CB with good size who gets to learn under Peanut for a year.
6R- Jeff Mathews QB- I'd like to think Trestman can get a lot of the Ivy League kid
6R- Justin Britt OT- Still wanna see Eben brought back, but even with him re signed they can still use an OT prospect.
Brooks is only 5-8? I would prefer more height at that spot.
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I'd take HHCD over Pryor or Bucannon because what the Bears need is not a thumper. The Bears need a true FS who can play centerfield, taking the correct angles, and breaking up passes. That's what HHCD excels in. The Bears don't need two SS's, where one of them just gets put into the FS role.
Like AZ said he played with an all star team where do you divide how much of an impact not with that team. Dont get me wrong, I think he is a good player, just question his impact. 54 taks-4 PBU-2 inte.
Pryor- 75 4 3
Bucannon 114 1 6
It seems to me they had more of an impact.
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Oh yeah! Nevermind...
I read a Rapaport tweet that his contract is a 1 yr 5 mil, and if he is there a year and a day it turns into a 3 year additional at 8 per year with 9 guaranteed
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I view in standard
mine is standard, would have to get use to outline, Im a creature of habit
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I despise the Carlos Hyde pick, but I have to admit that would be a very good draft.
At the third round, that would be a steal and a potential player to take Forte's place when he joins the non effective older RBs.
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Who's getting cut to sign another free agent of the wish list?
nobody, on vet mins, we can sign as many as we want. It is the top 51 or 53 contracts, so others below that amount would not be counted.
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Interesting take. It certainly would be nice if they can trade down, still get Donald, AND pick up another 2nd or 3rd rounder. In the end though I think I'd rather have Melton and HHCD/Pryor over Donald and an added 2nd or 3rd rounder.
I would say that depends on who we get with extra pick and if we move down, who's there. He's gone, so dreaming about him, does us no good.
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Jeff Dickerson @ESPNChiBears 53m
Bears, McManis agree to one-year deal http://es.pn/Nu1xMc
As a Northwestern fan I'm glad to see him back, think he has the talent to be more than just a ST player. They're 5 deep at CB right now, still wouldn't mind one more added in the mid rounds, perhaps Walt Aikens who the Bears have had a meeting with.
Just another body, nobody special. Hope he has more but probably just a ST guy.I wonder why were not getting Bowman back. Check that out, I have to go back to work.
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With the diminished importance of kick-offs in the NFL these days i think even that might be too high. All told I would offer either vet minimum or up to 1 mil a year with performance escalators such as punt/kick off return average over X number of returns or number of TDs scored to get to the 2-3 mil point. If he can average 16 yards a punt return, 30 yards kick-off return and net 2-3 TDs then he is definitely worth about 3 mil a season.
I think the days of pure returners are over. Unless he can do all 4 phases of special teams then he will quickly end up an afterthought.
Spot on with your opinion
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I wanted Melton back but him leaving actually could aid us on draft day.
Here is a nice article that tells the tale
http://nflmocks.com/2014/03/18/chicago-bea...joining-dallas/
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There isnt a lot left we can do in FAgency but some players I wouldnt mind seeing here.
QBs- Fritzpatrick-McCoy
RBs- MJD or Moreno
FB- Kuhn, just to gab it in GBs ass for Peppers
TEs-Keller or Daniels
OL-Brian La Puente
DE-Allen, not realistic but would love this, and move Houston inside on rush downs-Ayers---Phillips as a situational pass rusher
DT-Sims-Carrington-Peria
S-Clemons-we have numbers but no quality
Our own-Bowman and Britton
The rest of the way its about money but would be nice if we landed a couple of the better players left.
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This pretty much validates my belief that we could have done a better job drafting during JA's tenure than he did. All of us don't have a handle on the finances - although some are very good at it, and I'd trust LT2's numbers over anyone's - the simply matter of fact is, the Bears have been one of the worst drafting teams in the NFL over the last ten years.
I always thought he did a good job at it, until you look at his track record and it sucks.
Also I think Lovie was in his ear too much and influenced picks.
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Does anybody have an idea where Bowling has been and Brian Bear. I dont always agree with those guys but enjoy there input on this blog.
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I'd be very happy with that draft too. Ha Ha is an extremely fluid runner in the open field and covers a ton of ground quickly. I watch a little bit of the combine just to get an idea who some of these guys are and what they bring to the table. He stood out among the safeties.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-player-inter...ine-performance
It seems he has the smarts to diagnose what's going on with plays as well. Downside -- he's not very big and not a physical tackler but we need coverage skills on the backend and a sure tackler. I don't think he's Ed Reed though and I'm leery of players like him that were behind an often dominant front 7 so it's easier to make standout plays. I'm not sure about using #14 on him but if we did and got Quarles in the 2nd that'd be fine. We need some realistic starter level competition at FS with Conte and Dix will provide that.
I think he ends up being a good player, but have my doubts he is a impact player. I have more trust in Pryor or Bucannon as being more impact players at the next level.
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That'd be incredible, did you use the optimal scouting big board or something like that?
I did one the other day and came away with Donald AND Jernigan! Houston-Donald-Jernigan-Young would be incredible. Houston-Donald-Ratliff-Young/Ealy sounds equally sexy....Or maybe they sign Sims, who can play the 1 or the 3, and go with Houston-Donald-Sims-Young/Ealy.
I too am addicted to that site, everytime the Bears make a move I go back and do another draft.
I know its not realistic but would be game is some of those situations actually happened. Thanks for turning me on to that site.
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If he is it will be at Emery's price. I highly doubt we'd pay him $10mil/yr (for one we don't even have the cap space). He's certainly not worth more than what Peppers received as he's not that good playing the run. Peppers is not even worth what he received. I'd say Allen ends up earning around $5mil/yr. I would love the trio of Houston, Young, and Allen as the 3rd man in the rotation. Much better edge rushing than anything we saw last year. Draft Donald, kick Houston inside on 3rd and long with Allen and Young off the edge and we will get pressure…quickly.
That would absolutely increase our sack total,as a matter of fact, I could see us pushing the top 10 in the league.
Wootton signs with Minnesota
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He left without a contract, pondering whether he will sign with them.