Stinger226
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I like it, and I'm glad the talkbears moralists aren't poo pooing on this guy.
Sucks that he'll be out the next 2 weeks, at least, because I believe the season will be decided with these next 2 games. Particularly the Detroit game. If they lose that game then the seasons over. One of San Fran/Seattle is a lock to get one of the Wild Cards and I think the North Bears/Pack/Lions get the other one.
the GB game looks unattainable but the Lions are a team that we can beat, remains to be seen what happens but one game at a time.
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Done Deal. Bears signed him to a 1 year contract. Still won't be ready for a few weeks though.
when you roll the dice sometimes you come up with a 7 or 11 and at worst it wasnt a heavy bet
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Also I don't know how easy it is to do from the OLB position. That has to be a harder position/perspective to make calls from and it may even make him be out of position on certain plays.
I think most of the calls are predetermined, according to offensive formations. There is some immediate input but the coaches would make the adjustments if he wasnt calling what he was suppose to.
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If Tuck could be had for a 6th or a 7th, that trade should have already happened. 7th rounders are by and large wasted picks. Tuck at 75% is better than 95% of all 7th rounders.
Would love to have any of them but here is the problem, Salary caps hits this year Byrd-6.9
Tuck-6.1
Babin-4.3
Finnegan-15
We have 2.1 at this point of the season
There salaries for the year will be about 60% of that after its prorated , we simply dont have the money and then we get to giving up draft picks, which is something Emery will not want to do.
Just a pure dream state, but not reality.
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I suspect your post is partially in jest, but that's how it starts. I'm sure they thought that many times over: "Yeah, but we need this mooooorrrre." We can get OL next year. Or, "Well, I'll be. It IS the 7th round already and we haven't drafted OL. Again. Anyone out there who has the potential to not get cut on the first day?" Do it two or three years in a row, and you have a QB throwing off his back foot and ducking like he hears a drive-by shooting.
This year will be much different than most, only 30 players under contract, an awful defense, and a big decision at QB.
our OLine are Bushrod-29
Slausson-27
Garza- 34
Long- 24
Mills- 22
Brown- 24
Boggs- 26
Britton- 26
Scott- 30
I dont think Garza will be back, I think we can slide Slausson over to OC and install Brown at the LG position. I was, along with you always pushing for more younger OLs, we now have a roster we can live with one more year if we bring back this line.Resigning Slausson is the key and I think we can get that done. Then after this year start drafting OL every year. Seems like a more realistic veiw of rebuilding the team going forward.
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More or less just throwing it our there but ok, move Peanut to Safety then Peterson to CB. He's multi-dimensional (can do ST returns) and as you said "can get better" at coverage and is "better than our [current] corners". All the more reason to try and make a deal. And I wouldn't think youd need to give up "picks" per se, just one. Most here are suggesting draft a CB anyhow ....
I can buy the we need thing, worth a high pick to get him but why would Az trade him? He is young talented, CBs dont grow on trees. A time that passing is taking over the league, Im sure AZ would love to just give him away.
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That's old school the way I like it.
I like the idea of adding OL every year but next year with so many contracts up and dire need of defense, I dont see how we can do that.With 7 picks we need a couple of DL, safeties, DBs and will draft a QB. Maybe a late round pick, but dont see that happening.
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Why would we do that? Peterson is a great athlete but he is not a great cover corner. Not yet but I think he'll get there. Anyway you're proposing we give up a lot of our draft picks so we can force him to change positions to something he's never done. He's better than our corners but isn't worth giving up that much.
Our picks for next year are a total of 7: we traded a 7th away but received a 6th from TB for Carmi.
I think depending on how the draft falls we need: 1st-CB or DT
2nd DT or CB
3rd QB or SS
4th SS or QB
5th DT or CB
6th CB or FS
6ht FS or CB
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Big Marriota fan but I think Chip Kelly and the Eagles take him.
Idk about Mccarron, I think he may be a product of the system.
A kid I'm looking at is Jimmy Garoppolo, I've read that some scouts think he's a first round QB, but CBS has him as a 3-4 round pick so it's really tough to say where he'll go. Don't let the small school fool you, the kid sounds legit. Local kid too.
"Good-sized, rhythm quarterback with excellent accuracy, timing and a quick release that really helps him be efficient from the pocket. Sets up quickly and shows good lower body movement skills to evade pressure and deliver from different platforms."
I like Jimmy G , seen him play against NIU, and he has game.6-3 222, same size as Cutler. He is not flying under the radar to scouts. He will be drafted late second or early 3rd which may or may not be available to us. I dont think we go with a drafted QB until either the 3rd or 4th round.
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I believe this is true, like I said I don't have the stats at hand but again from the same poster he said week 1 Mills was actually one of the best pass blockers in the league. So when you consider he's been our biggest problem the rest of the way I imagine at the very least week 1 they played pretty good as a unit.
PFF is a good ruler to measure with but I think you put to much validity to it. The eye test, the line is improved over last year, has a lot of improvement to go. We have been successful on offense most of the time and it is due to better play out of OLine. We have a long way to go, but I see us getting better, not the inconsistency from the previous years.I kinda rate the comparison to evaluating a woman when you meet her. You look at her and dont get turned on but as you get to know her you find out that she has more to her than the face. I think Bushrod is slightly above average, Slausson is a good player, Garza is fading, Long and Mills futures look bright. We will look at the OLine much different at the end of the season. Maybe a 20th ranked team by the great PFF?
I think we should resign Slausson to a long term deal and move him to center. I think Brown could move into his spot and keep Britton around for depth. Sign another vet on the cheap for depth, and that will be our OLine for the coming years.
I dont think we have the draft picks to waste one on drafting another OL.
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Larry Grant is the only interesting one of the bunch.
"Grant turned in an impressive three-game cameo in place of an injured Patrick Willis in 2011, but surprisingly played just 21 snaps on defense in 2012." -rotoworld
So at least this guy looked impressive at some point.
I dont think we're going to pull a rabbit out of a hat here, we will be just grabbing someone to play STs and go with Greene with Costanzo getting some reps.
The defense has been quite awful and it can only play better but will have to come from some existing players playing better.
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Peanut is the answer. If not I'd like them to entertain the idea of getting a veteran in the backfield. Not really sure why other than having this eery feeling that the rest of the D is going to get young fast. Maybe one of the Cromarties or Rolles? Or make a blockbuster trade for Patrick Peterson and convert him? Also addresss the return duties to replace Hester?
I agree with Peanut as FS, resign Jennings, and draft a starter with the first round. With so many roster spots to fill no way that were making some big trade. I dont see us getting rid of any of our draft picks either. I think we draft some needs, sign some mid level veterans and this a bunch of minimal pays guys like this year. I would like us to resign Slausson(have him play center), Anderson,Jenning, Collins. Get rid of Peppers, Hester, I think Briggs has one year left.
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With the off week and injuries I looked at the 2014 draft.
Walters has us drafting a CB.DT,then a QB names Fales from SJS.
A west coast type QB: accurate, decent arm, some mobilty.
Sounds like they got the positions right, the QB sounds interesting.
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If we move on give me marriota or mccarron. Im not a fan of manziel
Two goods names to throw out there.
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In the spirit of some of the discussions here regarding whether McCown can 'carry the team' (long term - this season) or otherwise.
So if I understand it, the burden is more on Trestman at this point than McCown to produce. Again, the 'operator vs scheme' discussion.
It has yet to be determined with so many variables to be considered. When will find out a lot of the coach and team in the games with Cutler out.
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The injury history HAS to be considered. He is 30 years old and just suffered a relatively significant injury. An injury to other players that has proven debilitating. Maybe not to the point of being an invalid but less capable in their profession.
Concussion history is what it is. Cutler has a history, one more hit to the noggin could be the calling card for his career.
Some of his other injuries; finger, knee etc by themselves are not factors. But they do add up. And you're right, he has taken a pretty good lickin since playing in Chicago. But what has that done to his overall health?
If he pulls an Adrian Peterson-esque return then history (and i) will be flat wrong. And to be frank, id be happy to in this case.
Lastly and in regards to his skills. Plain and simple, he's degraded. I dont necessarily agree with the thought of his gradual progression this year. He's turned over the ball a few times in critical moments. A few of them resulting in direct scores for the opposition. That is a problem. He's never been a "Ferrari" per se but more like an Accord with the upper end trim line.
I would say the car comparison is a good one, but an Accord with all the bows and whistles. I dont think injury is at the forefront of anybody's thinking. He has had some, name a top 15 QB that hasnt. He is at a position that takes a lot of abuse. If you look at his history propably not any more than other QBs. It will come down to what the sucess is for the rest of the year. If we fair well without him, they may take the risk of going in a different direction. We have only 30 players under contract for next year. I think with a (QB guru) not my speak, drafting a QB that starts right away is a possibility for next year. I would say a salary of 3 mil a year looks more attractive than a franchise tag of around 18 mil. It is just an option to look at , how he plays for the rest of the year, our team success, many things to ponder going forward.
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I'm not totally surprised by this as the Steelers, then the Saints, and finally the Redskins showed a variety of looks in those games that we had never seen before and assignments were rmissed. I think the eye test we all see is that when they get their assignments correct, which is the vast majority of the time then they can hold their blocks. Long and Mills have played just 7 games, 3 of them against 3-4 defenses. They will get better as will Kromer and Trestman regarding game planning and play calling.
Your spot on, if this groups develops into a mid level OLine, I think thats a good thing. Since PFF is so important, lets say a 15th to 23 ranked OLine will due. Long and Mills will only get better, Garza wont be the center next year, starting to fade. The arrow is pointed up.
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I mean no disrespect but how on earth do you think we win in GB? That is an auto-loss. If they keep it within 3 scores, it'll be a moral victory.
I mean no disrespect but Indy has beaten Denver, SF and Seattle and I dont believe they are any better than those three teams. The point is better teams lose to lesser teams all the time in the NFL.
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I find it hard to believe that Emery and Trestman have made that decision already, if by the end of the season this offense is unstoppable you couldn't walk away from Cutler. If Cutler is still playing at the same level as the first 5 weeks I see it being a possibility. All tho Cutler's stats from the first 5 weeks all looked really good except for the INT's.
I also agree with a previous post, if they are going not resign Cutler you cant wait till the third round to draft a QB.
Knowing my luck we will draft Manzel..... Guy is good but I think he is a total douche bag.
From what I heard they didnt say for sure they were moving on, just have the scope to do that if things regress instead of progress.
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Just going by the eye test, the line has been slowly getting worse as the season goes on. 2nd worst? Nah. I haven't paid that much attention to Jordan Mills individually, but it's hard for me to believe he's the worst RT in all of football. I don't see it. Bushrod on the other hand, has been exactly what I've expected coming into the season. He's a stop gap LT. Within the next two years, Kyle Long will move over to that spot and will play well.
I agree that Long will be the eventual LT, the line is way better than last year if you use the eye test. It has room to grow, and PFF is just a tool to help with evaluation, not a bible.
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I suppose now that Bradford is out, we have a chance in that one. You're probably right there. So 1-3 :-/ as a best case scenario, even if Cutler is back after 4, which I'm not sure what to expect for that.
I think our next game against GB will define our season, if we are in it all the way, or happen to win it, we still could make the playoffs. I think we go 2-2 until Cutler gets back, keeps us in the hunt. If we end up with a bad lose, not looking for a lot of wins going forward.
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i would make that trade after the season is over if we are moving on from Cutler.
Peace
That would not be a bad idea, but I think with all the lousy QB play in the NFL, he might be in demand. Maybe go get him now, while they are lousy and feel the need to change things up.
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Draft Will Sutton out of ASU to be backup 3 technique, he should be available in 3rd or 4th Rd.
I was listening to the Score this morning, and they were talking about an insider(who knows how valid that is) that stated that Emery and Trestman are prepared to move on without Cutler in the coming year. That Trestman's system doesnt need a strong arm Farve type QB, that a mobile, smart, consistent decision making QB will work this fine and can be gotten in this draft way cheaper than Cutler will cost going forward. In some ways that makes sense. Gannon wasnt a strong armed guy. The QB in Canada was a dink and dunk type thrower. The money we would have to pay Cutler even at a reduced rate, could be used to upgrade a pitiful defense. One good draft(the jury is still out on Emery) and a few key FA signings could go a long way to improving our team overall. I am not sure I am sold on moving on with out Cutler but it is an interesting thought to ponder.
2014 QBs: 3rd round possibilities A.J. McCarren-ALA
Thomas-VT
Renner-NC
These are QBs not rated as high that has some of the qualities that Trestman might be looking for.
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With any luck its Conte... and as a bonus McClellin
I agree.
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Just doesnt look very good, but worst for Bears or the league?