SI has him ranked as the 5th best safety...Ahead of Bucannon

 

5. Brock Vereen, Minnesota: Vereen, the younger brother of New England Patriots running back Shane Vereen, has moved from corner to safety and back again during his collegiate years. And it may be that his NFL future is at the cornerback position. Out of all the safety prospects in this draft class, he may have the most impressive ability to stick and stay with receivers, no matter how complex the routes get. Vereen has tremendous agility and change-of-direction skills and isn’t a pure thumper. If he stays at safety, he’d have to be a range guy, and depending on the scheme he’s in, that might rob him of the potential to make plays in the intermediate areas. But as NFL defenses move to more nickel and dime formations, hybrid defenders become more valuable, and Vereen lines up very nicely in that category.

 

Draft projection: Round 2/Early Round 3

I think Emery has done his homework and as much as I hate to, give you some credit for bringing his name up. I didnt even pay attention to him.

Arm length I suppose. This is a really deep draft, 4th round might seem like falling far but with all the talent in the draft I don't think we're talking about a huge plummet.

 

CBS has him as the 101 ranked prospect.

 

Cracker, like I said in my last post, yes, I believe he can win the camp battle between he Conte and Jennings.

Actually he has been moving up boards of late. I think some people just get lost, and the combine starting getting him a lot of attention.

Three of Bears' five picks have relatives who played in the NFL: Fuller's brother Corey plays for the Lions, Sutton' father played in the 80s, now Vereen.

Hope he surprises us and can compete for a starting job. There are still several LBs left that could add some depth in the M.

Jeff Janis 6'3" 4.37 speed, loved him at the Senior Bowl and L'Damian Washington 6'4" 4.38. Both fit the big WR mold Phil/Trestman seem to love and both have top notch speed.

 

I don't think it's a real need, but addind one of those guys would be realllly intriguing.

Is Herron still left, just got home.

Bears trade up and snag my guy. Love his size/speed, bloodlines, cover skills, all of it. Finally a pick I really like.

 

 

Any wrestling fans here will appreciate the drawn out Brock in the title.

Finally someone to add to the mix, lets be hopeful. Your a wrestling fan, should have figured that.

LOL

Huff is gone, my sleeper FS now we just have Vereen and Exum left that would excite me a little.

As a 3rd Rd pick Sutton is not a "risk" IMO. I've watched him play a lot of games and have never seen one game where he didn't have or force several negative plays. That's against any team including perennial draft favorites USC and Oregon. There's no doubt in my mind that going all the way up to 320lbs was far too much for him. He did that 35lb weight gain in one offseason. That messes up your body, no different than when Izzy did the same thing to play DT for the Bears years ago and it didn't work. It hurt Sutton's mobility and I also think hurt his conditioning, or at least his endurance. Despite that he was still the bell cow for the ASU defense but I can say I saw him gassed and taking plays off. He fought through it and he fought through a lot of injuries. As the focus of Olines he often face double teams and sometimes took some cheap shots around his knees. I also think he has good character and never heard issues around that other than he's a locker room leader.

 

Here's "bad" Will Sutton against Stanford. Stanford has been producing a lot of NFL lineman in recent years so the level of competition is a realistic comparison to what he'll see in the NFL. He gets quite a few double teams throughout the game and even on those he holds his ground at the LOS. I think this is his floor, to borrow a Jerry Angelo phrase, and he's still effective in this game. Knowing we drafted a big body in Ferguson who can handle, or hopefully forces the double teams his way, will free up Sutton even more.

 

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/will-sutto...-stanford-2013/

 

Here's the "good" Sutton playing at 285lbs against USC in 2012. We need the player in the middle of these two, stronger than 2012 but keep the quickness. Again, he was a Junior so that's to be expected. I'm not saying he's the next Warren Sapp. Sapp was the 12th pick overall, Sutton is a 3rd Rd pick. He's going to make plays for us (and I hate that cliche).

 

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/will-sutton-vs-usc-2012/

The kid has some game, I think he will become Melton type player which will be just fine.

I don't mind it, but with Vereen there, I would've rather have seen a Safety.

 

We need to realize no matter who they bring in at S odds are he wont be a starter. The RB is a better value.

 

Time for RB. From an article I read, Emery may be looking for an oversized corner to develop into a FS. Of course, if I'm a big corner and my draft projection is not good as a corner, I'm entering the process promoting my ability to play safety. So, I'm not convinced that diamond is out there.

Everything after the first round is a crap shoot. I like FS names of Huff, Reynolds,Exum,Vereen. I suspect that is in the 5th round.

Here is whats left for us.

 

http://www.gbnreport.com/updatedtop100.html

 

I honestly dont care about what names falls to us but want(not in order)

 

RB

TE

FS

LB

Sutton is a risk pick, but 1/2 the first round picks are usually busts. I remain optimistic that is will all work out and cant wait to see this happen on the field.

 

I like you had other names I would prefer but do not hate our picks. I am sadden we didnt get a S, but if Fuller turns out to be the player Emery thinks he is, we did good.

Here is a statement referring to Sutton. Roll the dice and lets see what happens.

 

Sutton had a monster season in 2012, registering 63 tackles, 23.5 tackles for loss, 13 sacks, five pass deflections and three forced fumbles. Despite his terrific season, his weight jumped from 290 pounds to over 300 pounds, and his production steadily dropped off.

 

In 2013, Sutton registered just 48 tackles, 13.5 tackles for loss, four sacks and three pass deflections. He lost his explosiveness because of the weight gain and likely dropped down many draft boards over concerns of whether or not he could get himself back to his 2012 weight.

 

These are Donalds number this last year: 59 28.5 11.0 They look quite similar to me.

I keep seeing a lot of love for Louis Nix but the comments I heard about him earlier to day by Greg Cosell of NFL films may be the reason the Bears passed on him. He stated that when he watched tape on Nix that he was on the ground too much. Mayock commented that Nix should play at 330 because he seems to get tired and loses leverage. Those types of comments and the fact he had a torn meniscus might be the reason why the Bears passed on Nix.

Several teams passed on him, we see the big names and think thats the guy, they work them out and got someone they wanted. It is not a perfect system(evaluation). I too, had other names I preferred but they did address a need. S is still a huge need,chances of finding a starter yet is pretty slim. I never expect a team to address all needs in the offseason and it looks like the one position that got sidestepped . You have to let the draft fall to you and all the good prospects dropped in the first round. Lets wait and see.

Boobs, Ronald Reagan, venison

I now have more respect for you. I originally thought you were a football fan.

I'm sure Ego looks forward to Shea teaching him both things he knows.

Thats funny. We all know our needs, but at DT but the Bears put a lot of research into who they want, the difference is its different names. They have two new line coaches that I am sure had great input into this. Lets see what happens.

Clowney will.be an epic bust.

Tell us what you like? All I ever seem to see is what you hate.

Yes. Incredible. Maybe the best 3-4 front in the NFL immediately.

Absolutely

Emery rebuilt the line, not as fans have it figured, but I think this will work. The weak link now is Paea, maybe it will lite a fire under his ass. This could be a really good line.

Now grab Huff in the next round, Tripp in the 5th and then Grice/RB and Lyera/TE and I am a happy camper.

DE-Houston,Young,Allen,Bass-Odonije probably gone.

DT-Ratliff,Paea,Fegurson,Sutton, Collins

 

This is our DLine-2014. I actually like it. Sutton goes back to playing his 2012 self, he had 13 sacks, he was the Donald of that year. We got something going on .

 

3rds--Young,Houston,Sutton, Allen------thats pressure with a P

Emery rebuilt the line, not as fans have it figured, but I think this will work. The weak link now is Paea, maybe it will lite a fire under his ass. This could be a really good line.

Clownery,Nix, Watts, that is a WTF line.

DE-Houston,Young,Allen,Bass-Odonije probably gone.

DT-Ratliff,Paea,Fegurson,Sutton, Collins

 

This is our DLine-2014. I actually like it. Sutton goes back to playing his 2012 self, he had 13 sacks, he was the Donald of that year. We got something going on .

 

3rds--Young,Houston,Sutton, Allen------thats pressure with a P

Houston is having an absolutely NASTY draft. Holy shit.

Clownery,Nix, Watts, that is a WTF line.

ug… think I might throw up

We rebuilt the O line last year and now we have completed the D line.

Seems like every year I say "I wish we had the Ravens' draft."

There is a reason for that.

Maybe we should talk about the guys we don't want to draft seems whenever we throw a name out there someone takes them

good point

 

If we want a defensive player of value we will have to take another CB.Might go O.

Baltimore and SF are taking all the players I liked, screw them guys.

Borland gone.

If we want a defensive player of value we will have to take another CB.Might go O.