Posts posted by Stinger226
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Not that I consider myself one of the gurus but I'll jump in anyway. I like him but agree with others: he appears to be more quick than fast. It is nice to see a college player with solid tackling skills for once. I watched his game against ASU, a team I know fairly well. You can see he's a good player between the hash marks. Once he gets into space for coverage players start moving past him so for our scheme that could be a big liability. If he can use his quickness to get around a block, which he's very good at doing, he's good but if a blocker gets on him he's another SMC. I don't think we'd take him in the 3rd, at least I don't like that idea as I like to see 3rd Rd picks with a little more athleticism to be starters once they develop. In the 3rd Rd, given our needs I'd be ok, but if he drops into the 4th Rd very good value. He is likely a very good specials teams player. In a 3-4 with less coverage responsibility he may have more success. OTOH, depending on how SMC and Bostic develop we could use him as a 2 down MLB... but at the moment that's a whole lot of If's.
http://draftbreakdown.com/video/chris-borl...rizona-st-2013/
I watched 3 games of Borland, he didnt stand out for me. Im changing my position on him. I think I would rather see a more athletic player for that spot Zumwalt or a Bullough. Mosely is the best MLB in the draft.
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Lance Briggs is not going to be hurt to start the year. There's just no reason to believe that right now.
Briggs needs to be healthy for us to be legitimate on defense.His health has been brought up before. Actually the shoulder not being up to par came from his mouth in an interview. As you stated before, he was cleared to play and play like dog shit he did. There is plenty of time for him to get where he needs to be but it does raise the question of when he falls off the ladder,physically. He is at that age where it can be overnight. With all we have added to the defense so far, LB doesnt have much depth. With Williams injury history and poor play of the rookies, Briggs needs to be playing for a new contract, and I hope he is what he use to be. Our first two picks need to be S and DT in any order. S is a weaker position so Im up for Pryor. I honestly dont think Donald will be there, you have the Giants, Dallas moving up, and dont put it past Lovie to grab Donald. If the QBs dont get a run on early, we are talking about Gilbert,Donald and HaHa being gone. There is no other DT worthy of 14, if we trade back, Hageman, Truitt come into play. I dont see Jerringan as a viable valve at 14.
I think we end up trading back and grab,hopefully Pryor,or a Ward,possibly Bucannon late in the round. I think by the time 51 gets there the only 4 potential starters at S will be gone. You like the 5-8 safety, but I dont think he is a starter. The only other way we may go for a starting S is grab a CB/S like McGill,Exum or a Huff that could be a later round surprise that could play there.
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Wouldn't hate that one bit....From what it sounds like we won't be drafting a QB though. Then again Emery said you only find quality guys in the first few rounds, and McCaron in the 4th would be a guy who very could well have a first few round grade.
I dont think Emery is broadcasting to the NFL what he's doing in the draft. I like all the names, but Donald and Quarles would play the same position, so if he got another DT, I think it would be a NT type.(Justin Ellis)?
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With the 62 pick in the 2014 NFL draft, the New England Patriots select Troy Niklas, TE from the University of Notre Dame.
With Gronk always injured and Hernandez detained, TE is a huge need for the Patriots who like to run two TE sets. This came down to Niklas or Seferian-Jenkins. Seferian-Jenkins is more experienced, but Niklas is the better athlete. I've seen Niklas go anywhere from late first round to all the way to the 4th. One magazine said, "If there is a Gronk in the group (TE), Niklas could be the guy. He's the biggest and one of themost athletic of this year's TE group."
Denver (Stinger) is on the clock at number 63.
With the 63rd pick Denver takes Jordan Zumwatt/ lb----- they shore up the middle of there defense.
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What do you think of this fella?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCbBmcxmFHY
Potentially a 3rd, 4th round guy?
Every year there are (football players) that dont get there accolades because of the premium people put on the athletic traits of a player. There's many more examples where the (football player) has made it in the NFL instead of the stud athletic. We do need to add a MLB to the mix. Williams can fill the position but hasnt been a full time starter since 2011 due to injuries and suspensions.Lets say Briggs is still hurt and cant start. Can we feel good if Bostic, Williams and SCM are our starters on day 1 one of the season? S and then DT are our major needs, but dont discount our need at LB. If the surprise pic that Emery delivers to us this year is Mosely with our first pick, it will not be received well by this group.I will have no problem with that pic. I think he will be a tackle machine for years to come, and once the rest of you see him play for a year, there will be tons of fans on this site. I think we need to go S first for the sake of a weak class, and as Emery stated he wants to draft a starter with that first pick. A CB as a high pick wont start day one unless there is injury. DT will be a rotational guy, Safety almost is a guarantee, but a MLB could fill that spot. Borland would be a sneaky good pick in the 3rd or 4th round, but Mosely is the only bonified starter we could draft and that could be the first day.
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I apologize for the wait.....With the 58th pick of the 2014 NFL draft the Saints select.....Phillip Gaines CB Rice.
According to rotoworld the Saints top needs are CB/OLB/OC, I already got them Dee Ford in the 1st, so I go CB here and take Gaines. I really love Gaines size/speed combo at 6' with 4.3 speed. He's a guy who in real life I think lasts till the 3rd round and a guy I'd love for the Bears to grab. Going off this big board though he's the top CB available making him my pick.
The Colts (stinger) are on the clock.
The Colts have some weak spots on the offensive line they need to address.
So The Indy Colts pick -----Travis Swanson/OC---they need to upgrade their center position as a 4th round rookie played the position last year.
Carolina(Adam) is on the clock.
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Today at his news conference Emery talked about he was comfortable with 6 players to take with his 14th pick.
so here is my list, I think he has
Donald- no brainer, but the best DT in the draft probably wont be there at 14-history tells us that
HaHa and Pryor are two high rated Ss that fill a need
Gilbert and I believe Fuller are the CBs that is on his list. I think Fuller instead of Dennard because he is closer of a Tillman like CB.
And the last is C.J. Mosely-He is a high rated LB that I think Emery will consider taking with our 14th pick.
I personally think we will trade back and get a couple of extra picks
So my later in the draft list:
Fuller
Pryor
Ward
Hageman
Truitt
So its your turn
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I really think there's still some solid guys left that should be there in the 3rd who will come in, compete, and beat Conte and all the other guys they have at FS.
Brock Vereen is a guy I'm really starting to like. Good size, great strength, top shelf speed at the position, good in coverage(Has played CB), high character, leadership traits, good work ethic, and he has the family bloodlines(Pops was drafted and his bro is Shane Vereen).
Ed Reynolds has long been one of my favorites to draft in my mocks this offseason. Sans the speed and CB background I can say the same thing I did about Reynolds as I did about Vereen. His father played 9 years in the league.
Then there's Jaylen Watkins and Antone Exum who are widely listed as CBs but actually played FS last year and I think would be solid players at FS.
It is indeed hindsight though. I think there's a rather sizable drop off after Tuitt/Hageman, neither of which I'm sure would actually be there in real life.
The one out of that group that has any shot of being a starter, would be Exum. His injury took him down but is a sneaky pick to succeed.
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Here is a draft from Windy city gridiron.
I love the first 3 but will the lose of picks, it would end up being not good. No RB prospect(a must) , QB prospect( not of great impotance), and not enough bodies for the youth movement.
http://www.chatsports.com/chicago-bears/a/...ft-40-2-9753505
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They could really throw A TON of different looks at defenses with Houston and Hageman both being capable of playing anywhere on the DL. It'd be real tough for OLs to deal with.
Having that situation would be unique but as the draft as shown,all the good Ss are gone. Two good prospects in the line probably bodes well over all, but failing to get a starting safety would not be a good thing.
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I'd be pretty damn happy with that as well. It addresses the first two team needs with the first two picks, then prepares for the future with SJP, and finally fortifies the second-level with a tackling machine.
Why do you dislike Miller? I think he's pretty sharp. Two years ago , he rated Jeffery as the top WR, and guess what-he was right.
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Donald/Hageman! Nice, you can have flexibility of rotating the two also. With fear of Donald not being an everydown guy and Hageman taking plays off. If Bucannon was there I'd question that.
Fun to follow and keep it going
Its time for the Cardinals to pick: Austin Seferian-Jenkins TE. they need help along the front line, but Austin is to good to pass up at this point of the draft.
Jason and the Puckers are on the clock.
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http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/be...ml#.U1-msq1dXgI
Hopefully it turns out to be more than fluff and the lights finally turn on for Fendi. If he turns into this years Julius Thomas look out NFL, this offense could be unstoppable.
I wouldn't bet on it, being a stud athlete, often turns into a roster cut. Players usually show progress, haven't seen any
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Yeah, it's too early to tell. From what I read of the story, the guy says Morgan sucker punched him for no reason. And Morgan says absolutely nothing happened. Why do I feel like the truth is somewhere in the middle? Morgan was probably provoked and punched the dude. Not that it excuses Morgan's bad behavior. As far as I can tell it's his first time offense and he might miss one game.
Something happens again, you cut him, no questions asked. At least he didn't get stabbed by his wife or try to become a drug king-pin . . .
With all the crap that floats around the NFL, this is chum change.
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Anderson was only good when he wasn't blocked. That happened a lot his rookie year but as soon as someone got their hands on him he did nothing. He should have never been promoted to a starting role ahead of Brown. Anyone who watched any replays (aka film) could see that. It was just one of many Lovie mysteries.
He had a lot of those moments.
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Lovie is still sick to death of drafting offense in the 1st round, and with no OG of good value here, he goes for a local product. With the 38th pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, the Tampa Bay Bucs select Timmy Jernigan, DT, FSU.
MadLith is on the clock with Jax and Min....
Jernigan, is a good valve at this spot of the draft, and its Lovie, defense, defense defense.
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Maybe. That's what makes the second round more interesting than the first. A few perspectives:
1. Kiper has Borland ranked as the #25 player overall and projected to actually go to Washington at #34
2. The Hub Arkush magazine has him ranked as the #28 player overall
3. Walter-football has him projected to go to Miami at #50.
4. NFL draft countdown has him going #71 to Cleveland
I'd hoped to draft Ryan Shazier who went to Houston. That left me debating between LB Borland, CB Roby, and OT Kouandjio as their 3 Washington's 3 greatest needs are LB, CB and O-line.
That being said, I concede I don't know what the hell I'm doing and that I really don't give a damn about Washington
Draft gurus are all over the place after the first 10 to 15 players, so there is no certainty on picks. Does anybody believe Kyle Long was a first round pick, until we made him one. Hell no.
After the first round, GMs draft according to their board, not mock drafts. I have a tendency to like the ex scouts, and what they have to say. Draft sites like, GBNF,Our lads, Draft countdown. I also like Matt Millers opinions. And all of these are wrong most of the time. I think the ones that tell you who the top 30 are, not necessarily to the right teams, are the smart ones. Early second isnt considered a good valve, but I think he will be a very good player. If he becomes a strarter in the NFL and is above average in his play, that's not to early.
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With the 36th pick in the 2014 NFL draft, the Oakland Raiders select:
Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State
Honestly, the WRs at this point are a crap-shoot up to personal bias. I happen to like Kelvin Benjamin more, and I don't agree with the rankings at the beginning of this thread; so, that helps. But to make this decision, I reinforced it with the WF rankings, and went off something the Oakland GM said: "We don't have that go-to big hitter Calvin Johnson-type guy at receiver."
It sounds to me like he wants a big WR who can go up and get it in traffic, as well as provide a dangerous red-zone threat. Depth at the position is great this draft, so this might be something they go away from until the third. Then again, there are multiple QBs in that next tier, and one is likely to fall to Oakland's next pick. This pick was almost Allen Robsinson, PSU.
Atlanta (Stinger226) is on the clock.
There are a few spots they need to fill, but they need to replace an all pro TE so they go with Jake Amaro/TE. Its an offensive league and no valve at there other areas of need.
We have the evil Tampa Bay up next and that would be ADAM
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You're in the minority in writing Briggs off that soon. In his career, that's the first extended injury he has sustained. Before the injury (Detroit game?) he was easily the best defensive player on the team. Yes, Briggs looked terrible upon his return. I expect his spare tire to be gone and he will be back to his old self.
I suspect your right, its a contract year so we will see the hustling Briggs that wants a new contract.
2014 NFL Community Mock Draft
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With the 68th pick, Atlanta takes Kareem Martin/DE---the need to upgrade the passrush.... Who's next