Stinger226
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I don't think Brian is necessarily speaking up for his brothers; if he is, he has, and always has, forgotten the fans who pay for his ridiculously luxurious lifestyle.
He is a man, not a boy, and if he cannot figure out how to behave within the Bears, and what it means, then I don't have much time for him.
The reason he has, and does, somewhat bother me is because he never had the character, or respect, for the Bears and the fans that he should have.
I saw Mr. Url at the Bears game at Wembley a year or two ago, he was arrogant and not pleasant at all.....he obviously did not wish to be there.
He forgets entirely how much money the Bears have paid him over the years...choosing instead to cry when they offer more than any other team was willing to and pout because it isn't enough.
I will never own a 54 jersey, and have no use for him.
Bye bye Url. when you figure out what it means to be a Bear, then I MIGHT be interested...in the meantime, F off!
And take your buddy Briggs with you; when we win the Super Bowl, Mr. Lamborghini drunken crash/liar can be absent too hopefully.
What he is doing is taking shots at the Bears every chance he gets. When his name pops up, there is always a reaction. It will come up again when he wishes to take a shot. What a whiny little bitch.
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Disregard my last post about blowing their load on Clemons.
Yes, I'd be game to bring back Manning, I think he'd be a big upgrade over Conte in coverage.
Lovie is gone so maybe he would be willings to come back. I think he has gas in the tank.
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I brought up Miller when talking about Mundy (he has him ranked as the 26th of 75 safeties)...Well now he's talking DEs...
#16 Jared Allen
Having signed with the Chicago Bears for 2014, Jared Allen could make a huge impact in helping rebuild a once great defense. Allen will join newcomers Willie Young and Lamarr Houston to give Chicago a solid, aggressive rotation at defensive end.
#10 Willie Young
Young isn’t well-known outside of the NFC North, but his physicality and the opportunity presented to him in Chicago give him the ability to launch himself onto the national radar in 2014.
#6 Lamarr Houston
One of the best all-around defensive ends in the game, Houston will be much more recognizable now that he’s signed with Chicago. As an ideal left defensive end, his impact against the run will be huge for the Bears defense
Gotta love what Phil did at DE
Matt is a smart guy, but many have stated the obvious that we did well in the DEs we have brought in.
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Let's go back in time. http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05...=blogs&_r=0
Let me ask, was Sayers wrong at critiquing the team in 2010 (not only Urlacher but specifically Cutler in this instance)? Surprisingly enough, Urlacher came to the defense of the team this time (and collaterally Cutler's - someone he did not get along with). Obviously his (Urlacher's) loyalty was outwardly to the team if not only appearing so to those of us outside looking in. But yet he speaks out now and it still raises the rankles of some. So what if he does? He works as a broadcaster/analyst. He's paid to analyze things that he knows, and three things he has direct knowledge of are football, Bears football and Bears football history. I agree with SCS in that who cares if he talks about it anymore? You (Connor) as a part of media fell into the 'trap' of scratching off the scab only to lend life to Ulracher's words.
Apparently he is not the only one with some thing to say about it, you addressed it.
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I of course agree. When Trestman came in here I read a lot of articles on the west coast offense, and make no mistake Trestman is running a WCO, and in nearly every article they noted that speed isn't an element needed.
The main component is precision route running, and from a quick google search I've seen multiple articles call Desean Jacksons route running poor and lazy. One article called him a one trick pony, and that trick is the go route. Again if the Bears want someone like Jackson they might as well save a ton of $$ and grab DHB or Jacoby Jones.
Jacoby Jones is not a FA.
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I see a lot of posts about a need for a speed WR to take the top off of the defense. I doubt the Bears go that route since the traditional west coast offense doesn't use a slot WR. That is why Earl Bennett was let go, he didn't line up in the slot once last year. Almost every play last season was with 2 WR's, MBennett and Britton.
If we add another receiving threat, that will be in the form of a TE or FB imo. Just pointing out again to the guys that don't think we will look at a TE that we may just be holding our cards tight for Ebron if Donald/Dix are gone.
I think in a Trestman offense he will add any weapon to the arsenal and make it work. You can throw quick passes to a fast guy as well as a tall guy.
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The Texans signed Clemons so I would say D. Manning will be getting cut. Any takers for a 31 year old Manning?
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Agreed. I still think Steve Smith would have been the better "#3 option" if they were going to go the FA route.
I have a tendency to agree with you on that.
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I get that he's a speed guy, which is something different, but IMO this would be no different than drafting a TE early. In a WCO that's all about "nickle and diming" teams to set up the deep pass I just don't think top notch speed is an element that is needed for the offense to really take off. It's not a no no though, and I wouldn't hate it at all.
The traditionalists won't like the whole gang affiliation thing either. He can obviously have a Marshall like resurrection though.
I'd rather spend the money on Chris Clemons.
In a Trestman offense I guarantee you they would design plays for him. Trestman uses the talent he has and is not defined by a specific system. Give him players and he will make it work.
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I'm not saying I wouldn't like it, I just don't see it happening. That quote from Emery pretty much solidifies my thought. I think he'll get every chance to win the MLB spot next year. Like I've said in the past, the way I see it is Bostic, SMC, and Williams are all competitng for 2 spots. Williams has done nothing to be handed the spot. That's just my opinion on the scenario.
Mosely also has injury concerns that are said to be "very very real".
IMO I think they think MLB is a need position. Williams is just a one and done. Bostic is being groomed to take over Briggs spot, a highly important spot in our defense. Briggs is a good football player but think he is a tool I would have no problem if they moved on with out him. I think Bostic will be a good player just dont see it at MLB.
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He's a stupid SOB but a talent. Don't think we need him here given our WRs.
His price will be to high, enough said.
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I think it's kind of a mixed bag. Sure, the money Hester and Urlacher were asking for was more than the Bears wanted to pay. That's understandable. But at the same time, there appears to have been no attempt at signing either player, or even making an effort at negotiation. Who's to say the loyalty Urlacher speaks of wouldn't have been returned if the Bears simply made a lower-middle ground offer? Same goes for Hester. What if Hester would have signed for less than $2M to remain a Bear? We'll never know because the team never even got to that point with him.
Having said all that, loyalty is DEFINITELY not "pay equal to or more than another team is offering just because a player has been with his team his whole career." That's just stupid. At a certain point the value of the player has to be considered.
First of all Emery and Trestman didnt ride his career, they owe him no loyalty. The Bears paid him and Hester both well, so the fact they bitched about the money made them the ones lacking loyalty. They were right about Urlacher, wasnt a very good player at the end of his career. The rest of the league agreed with them, no one offered him a contract. Football teams are like whore houses , they will take every ounce of worth out of you and when your not worth it , throw you out on the street. His time was over, and its as simple as that . We cant go back and say shoulda, coulda, woulda because he didnt play again. I think Hester will prove to be not worth what Atlanta paid for him, but they will play itself out. I have no problem letting go of old players, loved them when they played but realism always wins out, they get old, and this is not an old mans game.
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Ya, here's the quote....
“Where Jon has struggled this year is in terms of being in the middle is the instantaneous in terms of read and react and searching through blocks in flow,” GM Phil Emery said. “He can improve dramatically in that going into his second season. I just said that from his skill set, some day — that may not be this year, it may be in the future — might be best on the outside to take advantage of the skill sets that he has.
The bold part tells me he's not just competing at SLB. He never closed the door on MLB at all.
They didnt bring Williams back to be a backup. We need depth at the position and right now he is penciled in as the starter. That could change going forward, but I think the possibility exists we draft a MLB in one of the early rounds whether you like it or not.If he thinks Mosely is an impact player and we move back he would be a good valve in the end of the first round.
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I also agree that while Conte had an overall bad season I believe it's too early to give up on him. He needs to workout with bmarsh and company and get tougher mentally as he seemed too be around the ball but was constantly making mental mistakes. You could see mid season that his confidence was down and he was thinking not reacting instinctively. With that said I want the top rated defensive player that projects as a day one starter. We can not afford to draft on potential high ceiling guys that don't have a sure position with experience and success at the college level.
I think not only a starter but an impact player is needed. Whether that be Donald, HaHa, or Gilbert, its only our opinions Emery has proved he doesnt draft according to popular opinion. I think he could suprise us with a Fuller/CB, Ward/FS or a Hageman/DT. Chances are we are surprised again this year.
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Ya, I searched for the the article on it....I think he'll he fine. Season is still months away
There is nothing defined on it, and probably wont come in to play, but he was injured in Oct and it hasnt completely healed yet. 6 months is a long time to have an injury linger, definitely something to monitor going forward. He was cleared to come back when he played the last few games. He played like shit, thats not the Briggs we want on the field.
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To me, I'd put backup TE/RB/QB all in the same category of positions where we should be adding a quality #2....Bears still have around 8m in cap space and I kinda expect 1 or 2 of those spots addressed in FA.
Drafting a TE over a RB would be made with the thought that Trestman would want to run a lot of 2 TE sets, which means the TE would play a bigger role than the backup RB. RB is obviously a need though.
Last year we kept hearing things like....
-from a tribune article
...which is where the whole want for a 2nd TE comes from.
I've backpedaled on the whole Ebron pick thing because he's not a inline TE who would complement Bennett, who's not a great blocker. Butdepending on who's there (
As far as a speedy slot guy goes, I just don't think thats a big need in a WCO. I think Trestman really likes to use his big guys in the slot to try and create a mismatch.
As for center, I really think the Bears are high on Boggs and see him as the center of the future.
As far as CB goes, I'm kinda mixed here. I understand the thought behind taking a CB early, but I think they wait until the 3-4 round range and take a guy like Walt Aikens who could use some seasoning under the wings of Tillman/Jennings.
That's just how I view things.
Its completely possible we take a CB with the first pick. Gilbert would give us a returner besides an youth to the back of the defense. Hayden, and Tillman are at the end. Jennings is no spring chicken.
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Emery said Bostics problems were correctable. Mostly his read/react times were slow, that will improve with experience. He looked much better in preseason and I think his head just had too much going on and the pressure kept increasing. I think year two at MLB will be a better one.
He is competing for the SLB job but with news of Briggs still not recovered from shoulder injury, he may be playing WLB out of the block.
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Where are you hearing this?
I'm not a fan of any of the LBs this year,...If I had to take someone it'd be Christian Jones in the 3rd.
they talked about it on the score, and there was something on comcast
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1: Trade Down Kyle Fuller - CB
2: Kelcey Quarles - DT
3: Dion Bailey - S
3: Max Bullough - ILB
4: Bryan Stork - C
5: Jerick McKinnin - RB
If they traded down, I dont see any extra picks and we have two 6th round picks this year. I also would have no problem if we ended up getting C.J. Mosely. I think he will be a stud.
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The PFF guy on soxtalk just posted that Bostic had the best pass defense rating of any MLB in the NFL....."Best since vintage Urlacher"
When playing cover 2 that's a real important thing you need in an MLB.
The only way he sees MLB again is by injuries. He will move outside this year and next year be slotted in Briggs place when he is gone. To be rated that high on pass defense rating and be that bad in run defense, that shows you how statistics can cloud how good someone is , he is a long way away.
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I really don't get why signing Allen all of a sudden makes us able to go BPA? Nothing has changed at DT/FS. Maybe if we signed Clemons instead of Allen that could be something you could say, but signing another DE didn't change anything from Tuesday till now.
The way I see it is 2 days ago we possibly needed to draft a DE in the 3/4 round (IMO), and today we don't. DT is still a huge need that you can't ignore to take a BPA.
Right now, for me, it's Donald/HaHa or trade down. If they can't trade down then I might think about an OT or CB (I changed my tune on Ebron just because he can't block, we don't need a WR, I want an inline guy).
I think Emery will see it that way, Im all in on Donald or one of the safeties. Our line is Houston-Ratliff-Paea-Allen with Idonije,Young. Collins,and the rest of the DEs we have. Houston will see snaps inside as well as Idonije. I am stating BPA with the first round pick. If we pass on Donald, I think we may have a idea to pick Quarles,Jones,Johnson,Hageman,Ferguson, Bromley,and Reid at a latter round. Safeties after the first round will be possibly Ward,Bucannon,Bailey,Brooks, and Exum. I think if he decides that there is a stud there any position other than QB and RB, he could possibly take him.
OT-If one of the top 3 drop he would have to consider taking one. Mills was considered as performed well for a 5th round pick, but the truth is he was very good.
WR-After thinking about if more the only way we would take one in the first round is if Watkins dropped and that is highly unlikely.
TE-If Emery thinks Ebron is the second coming of J. Graham, I totally think he could take him.
DE-I dont see anyway we go that direction unless Clownery drops.
DT-As I stated I think the top 2 are still in play, but there is also 2nd and 3rd day options.
LB- Briggs is in his last year,Williams is a one and done. We are grooming Bostic to take Lances place, so the middle is still a big need.
CB-Everybody is old.
S- Stongly believe this is the leader in our first option but there is options in the first and second rounds.
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With Allen coming here we are now in play for drafting BPA. That could be many different positions to go for.
Donald and Jerrigan are still in play. We have a 32 year old Ratliff as our best DT, enough said.
Gilbert comes in to play. He brings a KR/PR skill that we have no totally addressed yet. Plus he is the highest rated CB.
CJMosley will also be considered. With a one and done Williams our main squeeze at MLB dont discount the potential to take this player.
Offensive player? If he dubs an Ebron/TE or a Cooks/WR as the best player available at our spot,l think he could surprise us with a pick here.
I think we still have many spots to fill, FS,DT,CB, LB he could move down and get more picks.
If we move down I think players like Hageman/DT-Fuller/CB-Ward/FS-Pryor/FS all could come into play.
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I don't see that given that we have the record setting PR/KR from the CFL on our roster. Before we jump up and down saying that's the CFL, how will that be different or worse than drafting a KR/PR? I wouldn't mind having someone like Gilbert as an option on some returns.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=chris+...D3AE85533C90670
I think Gilbert is in play to be our first pick. If we dont draft him we will be drafting a RB/WR that will one of our later picks. We have Hixon also on the roster so we are not void at that position.
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There are going to be a lot of bodies gone at DE, I hope someone steps up and surprises us. You have Allen,Young, and Houston. I assume Bass takes the next step, and suspect if no one shakes out, we have Izzy playing the end/tackle spot left.