What are u reading?

I heard two football scouts interviewed on the radio, and his problem is with ball recognition. Appears hard to learn nuisances of defenses. Stud physically but lacks in football sense.

I really hope it works out for him. I like his style of play and his work ethic. If it goes south I will be blaming Lovie and if it works out I will praise Emery!!!! LOL

 

 

Joking about the last part.

If I was gay I would hit on him. He's ripped.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/...ck-kyle-fuller/

I wonder what the deal is with Sutton? I would suspect the first round is the place where it could take some time, 3rd round should be rollings in.

I'd be pretty bummed if they gave up on Greene already, I still think he has a ton of talent.

 

Last year the Bears carried 6 LBs on the 53 man roster. With Hester gone I'd like to see his spot given to a LB so they can go with Briggs/Bostic/Williams/SMC/Greene/Senn/Jones....Like what was said in another thread I think theres a good chance Jones gets plucked off the PS if they put him there.

I think Cris Williams get his spot on the roster, the more I read about Jones the more I understand why he didnt get drafted. I think the possibility exists he doesnt make the squad.

 

Not to rain on the Stein parade but after the new CBA was put in place, rookie contracts are mere formalities with bonuses and salaries basically predetermined by draft slot.

 

I don't think we'll see anyone holdout in the whole league.

Your right but doesnt it seem were always the first with all of our players signed.

Wow , you must never read any of my posts.

Do you think the Bears deserve to be 12th?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings/_/yea...id=sportscenter

 

It's almost like nobody outside of Chicago realizes half the defense was hurt last year, all the DTs were down, and that started the domino affect.

 

There is no way the defense is not much, much better with the return of Ratliff, Paea, and DJ, the signing of Allen, Young, and Houston, and the drafting of Ferguson and Sutton.

I think there rating us so low because we didnt draft a S in the first round.

I think it will be hard for us to score the type of points we did last year though too. I think the offense can be better but I also think we have Forte getting older, Marshall getting older, etc. Like our oline and love the idea of a 2nd year of Trestman but there will also be more footage out there too. I think we have potential super bowl capabilities but a lot still has to happen as planned and hopefully you don't have any crushing injuries. I'm extremely excited for this upcoming year but also the direction the franchise seems to be heading. We definitely need last years draft picks (as well as the current years) to step up and grow though cause that really is the key to long-term sustained success (well that and Cutler).

I think we definitely get better with our offense. This will be a stud O for the next few years. The second year always shows the most growth in a new system. Our Oline will be better and so goes the offense. We now have in place some depth at positions other than TE and being they didnt draft one that must mean Onobun is ready to take a step.

Stein is the man. A true contract genius. Love how quickly he gets things done. And how creative he is in getting contracts worked out!

Charles will get more points that Forte, so just take Charles and go from there.

But do the Bears have a coach from VaTech? Sometimes it's better to choose the known evil over the unknown.

The point was we knew the S prospects up close and personal and choose Fuller instead. If Emery thought he is a better player than the two Ss that is what he has to go with.

As usual, blow me.

 

Just because it was a decent draft doesn't mean it was without flaw. I didn't like players based on others available, but I don't recall straight up saying I didn't like an individual player. Furthermore, I'm not a huge fan of ANY draft that fails to get a single starter (rotational/nickel doesn't count). I believe BPA should be balanced with need, and in doing so a team should find a day one starter somewhere. The only exception is a ridiculously loaded SB winner with minimal issues.

You guys to try to get along like me and SCS. Its not all that hard, I just ignore him. (just kidding)

Cliff Stein is at it again. Brock Vereen and David Fales both sign 4 year contracts. More to come soon!

How lucky can we be to have Cliff, he knows his shit. We never have holdouts.

Number one for me is obvious:

HOU - Monster draft. Clowney is a stud. Su'a Filo is a stud. Both start day 1. CJ Fiedorowicz has a good chance of starting day 1. Same goes for Louis Nix. And for that matter, if this Savage kid has what a lot of people are saying, he might end up starting. If not now, maybe next year.

 

The other 9, in no specific order:

 

ATL - Very good draft. Matthews is a 10-year bookend, and Hageman is a DT with great upside. They needed speed in the defensive backfield, and Southward has it. I also liked Shembo in college.

BAL - I don't care about the rest of their draft, but when they started Mosley, Jernigan, Brooks, it made that draft a winner.

BUF - Young QBs need protection and weapons. Watkins, Kouandjio, and Richardson fill those needs. Ross Cockrell looks like a good value pick as well.

CHI - I'm not enthralled for a variety of reasons, but it's hard to ignore the core of guys they got who will likely start next year. At least 1 (Fuller), and at most 4 (Sutton, Ferguson, Vereen). And Carey is a great backup RB for insurance.

CLE - Probably dumb of them to pass on Watkins considering their current problems (they had to know), but Gilbert is a shutdown corner, Manziel might be the best QB in the draft, and Bitonio is a versatile OLineman who can play multiple positions.

JAX - I like what the Jaguars did. They made a quick committment to Bortles, then gave him two big-time weapons in Marqise Lee and Allen Robinson. Then they protect him with Brandon Linder. The Jags' offense could be something to look for in a year or two (especially if Blackmon comes back).

NO - Cooks will be a big weapon for them. Stanley Jean-Baptiste will make a big impact in a year or two. If Fortt and Sunseri stay healthy, I expect them to be solid starters in a few years.

PIT - Like Baltimore, Pittsburgh is a team that always seems to have a draft I like. Shazier is a stud, Tuitt is very good, and I think Zumwalt will contribute. Add in a potential monster NT in McCullers, and all that says they're restocking their 3-4. Getting two huge upside guys on offense (Dri Archer and Bryant) doesn't hurt either.

STL - Their draft was like Baltimore: huge start, tapered off. Robinson is a great pick for them. Getting Donald with their second round pick made their DL the best in the NFL.

 

Bonus: TEN - I think people are confused about their draft. Lewan will start for them for years, and their OL is now young and solid. Sankey won't dance - what TN fans hated - and will get good yardage. And Zach Mettenberger might have been the steal of the draft in the 6th round.

Your wrong about the Bears , the punter will start next year also. I also think Fuller will be the #2 CB and they will play Jennings as the slot corner. That will work out quite well.

damn, now you are making me feel old...haha.

 

We seen to have done well in the draft I think, but I am still mourning over Pryor...oh well.

I was listening to the radio today and they were talking about taking Fuller over the two safeties. The interesting part was we have two coaches that was on Louisville and Ala coaching staffs last year. I would say that gave us a front seat on those prospects. We took Fuller because he was a better player and all of that will play itself out.

I'd bet against Forte having a bigger year this year than last but that's only because it looks like Carey is the kind of runner that doesn't go down. We may finally have that "goal line" guy we thought we had these last few years. So while Forte will likely have a very productive year in terms of catches, yardage, etc, he may not score as much.

If Carey has talent, I would like to see him get 30% of the carries. It takes less wear off of Forte and lets his career last longer. Historically when RBs hit that wall they get bad quick. The less work Forte does preserves his life for an extra year or two.

My guy! Not a big McShay fan but I'd have to agree. He says he should contribute in sub packages, but I really think he'll be an every down player sooner rather than later. Perhaps even right out of the gate.

Im not a McDick fan either. Its nice when we get cudos from (so called) experts but all of it will show up in training camp and I think Emery will look smart by this time next year.

We addressed our line here and in FA , I think we will be much better for it.

 

Trestman must have liked Fales a lot or I dont think drafing a QB was on Emerys radar.

 

I think we almost did as good with UDFA as what we did in the draft. Jones and Lynch willl make the final roster and Groy will make the practice squad.

 

I think we got two really good DTs in the second and third round. They replace Ratliff and Paea in the future years. Rotational guys as of now.

 

Fuller is going to be a star.

 

Leno makes the roster .

 

Carey is damn good and will be a tandem with someone else once Forte is done.

 

Vereen ends up being the starter game 5 and keeps the job.

 

We have a new punter that is bitchin

 

Fales rests on the practice squad.

 

All the draftees make the team this year and a few UDFAs.

Definately a deep draft. We have solid building blocks now. Down the road, the could be viewed as a great draft.

Drafts, I believe take 3 years to play themselfs out. This year we will be grading his first draft. If SCM plays well at SLB then we will look at his first differently. Grabbing Jeffery and trading for Marshall almost negates the bad players he drafted.

For what was there I'd give them a B+.

 

I thought with Donald gone they shoulda grabbed a S but Phil apparently likes Conte and wants to give him a shot at winning his job. Fuller looks the part of a shutdown corner and that is always something a team needs. He drew comps to Tillman, so getting a year to learn from Tillman should be huge. Depending on the matchups I can see Jennings playing the slot with Fuller and Tillman on the outside.

 

Depending on where you look they did really well with the DTs they drafted. Ourlads, which is run by a former scout and actually provides the media with scouting reports on every player had Ego and Sutton ranked 4th and 5th in their DT rankings. Yes, Nix was ranked first, but the fact that they brought him in for a workout and passed on him tells me he wasn't a fit. Jernigan was ranked 3rd but he sadly went off the board a few picks before us.

 

Carey was kind of a meh pick for me but if they saw the need for a real good backup they did just that with Carey. Ourlads has him ranked as the top overall RB in the draft.

 

Everyone here knows I was hyping up Vereen as a mid round gem and I of course think he's just that. Love his size/strength/speed combo. Yes his short arms are a bit of a concern, but I look at Pryor, who a lot here wanted, and see that his arms are just an inch longer while Vereen is an inch taller. So in a way it all kinda evens out.

 

Fales I think is a perfect fit for a WCO. Good, quick release, leads his receivers well, great accuracy, not exactly a statue in the pocket, smart, goes through his progressions. Working with Trestman I think he has the chance to either A. Push Cutler outta town in 3 years or B. Should Cutler get hurt and he gets a chance to play he might end up being good trade bait.

 

O'Donnell was the top ranked punter in the draft, maybe a bit of a reach, but as a 6R pick it doesn't hurt to get a guy who will contribute and fills a need.

 

Leno Jr. is a versatile OL project for Kromer to get his hands on. Britton is back, but only for a year, this guy provides solid depth for now and into the future. Kromer has done more with less. He's a guy who likes to get out to the 2nd level and sounds like a perfect fit for what we do schematically.

 

Adding Christian Jones as a UDFA could also be a real good get if the Bears do end up moving Bostic to the outside to replace Briggs next year. He was one of the few LBs I actually liked in the draft.

 

Not sure if anyones gonna touch Lyerla, but if someone adds him, I'm hoping it's the Bears, that'd just be the cherry on top of what I thought to be a fine draft.

We think a like, I posted some of this information on its own thread.

 

I think Donald is the only guy he would have took over Fuller, I bet you he had him rated higher than Gilbert. I think the reason he drafted Fuller over both Ss is he thought they will be better players, he wasnt concerned of needs as which good GMs get the BPA guys and build a team around them .

Good to hear Stinger...been to Mr. Donut lately? Is that still there?

 

I think we are in good hands....and am comfortable with the decisions. At the end of the day, wins or losses will tell the story. I am waiting, and have paid my NFL access account, so all is paid.

All that stuffs gone now, I doubt if there is anything still standing from the days you were around.

Our Lads is run by former scouts and I look often at there opinions.

 

1. They had Fuller rated as the 5th best prospect

2. They had Ego as the 4th best DT

3. They had Sutton rated as the 5th best DT

4a They had Carey as there top rated RB

4b I could not find his name in the ratings.

6 Fales as the 13th rated QB

6 Donnerly as the top rated punter

7 Leno as the 12th best T

UDA Jones as 4th best ILB

UDA Lattimer as the 7th best ILB

UDA Groy as 13th best G

 

 

Im not saying they are smarter than anybody else but they have at least been in the War Room before.

Before the draft most on the forum felt the so called "experts" from ESPN, NFL.com, etc... who were projecting the draft were all clueless and or full of "it". Then we get into the draft and many get upset because we draft a player in the 2nd that many of the so called "experts" claimed should have been a 3rd round pick. So have we changed our minds about these "experts" or do we still feel they are clueless?

I have a tendency to like opinions of scouts or former scouts. Our Lads-Draft countdown-GBND-and I like Matt Miller. So I put a little more trust in their opinions. AND there not right most of the time.

Yes seems he's going to compete at RB, or FB, or some odd hybrid h-back type of a role? Trestman telling him he "has 10 things he can do with him" has me curious and the Bears put a lot of effort into the scouting (in this case recruiting) process. He's a good football player and if can cover kick returns on special teams, which he has the right attitude for, then he has a shot at making the roster. He only ran a 4.7 forty so it will be interesting to see what kind of role they envision for him.

Two things he can do is have him being the holder for our kickers. Gives us another thing to prepare for when a guy can run and throw out of a nothing spot.

Most analysts didn't like our draft. Prisco is different. I don't really put any stock into this stuff but it's interesting to read mostly in terms of what our division rivals did. The one thing I get from most of the "grades" is that this was a deep draft and almost every team did well. Our draft wasn't sexy so won't get the publicity the big names bring but I think it was good.

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pete-p...-2014-nfl-draft

 

Within our division the Packers didn't impress me too much. Dix is a good player wouldn't have minded drafting him at all. But behind that GB did ok.

 

Detroit grabbed Ebron early, we grabbed the CB who covered him in college. Ebron certainly makes their offense more challenging... unless we get to their QB. Behind that they did little to address their D and I don't get that at all and then drafted another TE in the 4th Rd. I thought Matt Millen was no longer in charge.

 

Minn did very well early with Barr and then Bridgewater later in the 1st.

 

I'm curious to hear what our draft experts think about our division rivals picks.

I have heard a couple different people ,I respect, say he was the best CB in the draft.If its even close to that we did right.

The Defensive Line and Cornerbacks are huge strengths now. LB's are decent, completely dependent on the development of Bostic and Greene, the health of Williams, and growth of SMC. Safety is still a concern, but we have the June 1st cuts to pick someone else up.

I hope someone with a big contract that has talent gets cut, we need one more FS.