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Stinger226

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  1. Here is what one draft guru had to say about who we pick

     

     

    C.J. Mosley

    Alabama LB

    He is one of the most underrated players in the draft, and could be the successor to Lance Briggs or Brian Urlacher. The Bears need to take the best available defensive player. The ideal pick would be Donald, but there is virtually no way he is available at 14. Mosley is every bit the player Donald is. The difference in his draft stock is there are questions about his ability to stay healthy. If the Bears' doctors don't sign off on Mosley or if Mosely is off the board, they could go for Kyle Fuller. Others in the mix are safeties Ha Ha Clinton-Dix and Calvin Pryor.

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    I have to admit that would be good but Brooks is not a first year starter in the NFL. That will be determined.

     

    Now for my picks.

     

    Cleveland adds a MLB Skov/LB Stanford. Fills a need for the defense side of the ball

     

    Arizona has a weak offensive line and continue to rebuild it with David Yarney/OT-OG Stanford

     

    Next up is Jason for Green Bay

     

    By the way I have seen McGill/CB drafted twice so pay attention guys.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  3. Don't forget Shea, who is at 250 too. I guess I wasn't impressed with his 15 reps. He may turn out as good as a Kuechly, but my gut tells me different. LB is a need with Briggs career winding down, but not RD 1 imo. If the Bears do take him. I will become his biggest fan, I just hope Donald is the pick.

    Here is what draft scouts has to say about Mosley

     

    Frankly: Underrated here. He is a must-draft, mobile mass of natural football genius who has no negatives and works full speed, full time. Mosley is even a blocker on punts, covers kicks and if you want more, just ask. - Frank Cooney, The Sports Xchange

     

    PLAYER OVERVIEW

     

    The leader of the Crimson Tide's suffocating defense, Mosley is highly thought of among the scouting community and could end up as a top 10 pick in May. Mosley is as well-rounded and disciplined a linebacker as this draft class has to offer.

    His 107 tackles in 2012 were the second-highest total by an Alabama linebacker in the past 25 years (DeMeco Ryans had 126 in 2003) and 48 more than the next Tide defender last season (fellow inside linebacker Trey DePriest). Mosley also recorded eight tackles for loss, four sacks and two interceptions.

     

    Tough and athletic, with the keenest instincts of any linebacker I've scouted since Lofa Tatupu, Mosley is constantly around the ball and is often making big plays as a result. (11/14/13)

     

    In an increasingly pass-centric league that demands defenses go with nickel coverage more than 60% of the time, Mosley has rare ability and range to blanket tight ends and running backs.

     

    Mosley reminds Crimson Tide defensive coordinator Kirby Smart of another ultra-instinctive linebacker — the Carolina Panthers' Luke Kuechly, the 2013 defensive player of the year.

     

    "I've never seen a linebacker get his hand on the ball so many times. C.J. is so instinctive," Smart told USA TODAY Sports. "A lot of people think C.J. is undersized. That is the one knock against him.

     

    6 foot 2, 234 pounds, 4.63 in 40-yard dash

     

    Lowdown: Last season, Mosley was named the SEC defensive player of the year and won the Butkus Award, given to the best linebacker in the nation. Finishing as Alabama's leading tackler for the second straight season, Mosley had 108 stops (nine for loss) with five pass breakups. He diagnoses plays quickly, plays low and stuffs running backs on sight (see: LSU games). Very rarely was Mosley tied up by blockers or dragged downfield by ball-carriers. Has a clean, dominant skill-set. Mosley's ability against athletic tight ends one on one remains unknown. A team captain, Mosley brought attitude to the Alabama defense.

     

     

    Three-year starter. Blessed with all the tools of the linebacker trade. Quick hands, quick feet, pass rush quickness, fluidness with good flexibility, acceleration, balance, the ability to redirect, and top level instincts. After all that, the best thing he may do is excel in pass coverage. Good route awareness. Plays square. Works through traffic instinctively. Wrap tackles. Is disruptive as a blitzer and is an impact hitter. He also has returned three interceptions for touchdowns in his career. Plays on all special teams. His 2012 stats: 107 tackles, 4 sacks, 7 tackles for loss, 2 interceptions. Ourlads' Scouting Services

    DRAFT NOTES: One of 10 players in nation to earn Unanimous All-American status, Butkus Award winner (top linebacker in country), All-SEC first team selection.

     

     

    Mosley lines up as an inside linebacker in Alabama’s base 3-4. He is a 4th year senior and while he wasn’t listed as a full time starter his first two years, he got significant playing time and was among the Tides leading tacklers both years. At about 6’2 – 240 with long arms, Mosley has all the tools to be a top NFL linebacker. He possesses very good overall athleticism with speed, flexibility, change of direction and body control. To go along with his size he has very good play strength.

    Mosley is alert and instinctive. He is a quick reactor who is consistently around the ball. He is proficient defending the run, in pass coverage, and rushing the passer. He shows his strength and power at the point by shedding quickly and is an explosive, aggressive tackler. He has the speed and range to stop both the inside and outside run and moves easily through trash. Many linebackers are used strictly in zone coverage, but that is not the case with Mosley. He is often put in man situations versus running backs and tight ends and does an excellent job. He can drop, pedal, and turn as well as any linebacker in football. He can react to the ball in the air and has good hands. While not used much as a pass rusher, he is effective when used. He knows how to use his speed and has the hand use to get rid of blocks.

    The beauty of a player like Mosley is that he can play in any scheme. He is a fit to play inside in a 3-4, and he has the traits and athleticism to play any of the three linebacker positions in a 4-3. When Oakland drafted Rolando McClain in the first round a few years ago, they thought they were getting a tough smash mouth inside player. It turned out he was more of a finesse player. Mosley, on the other hand, might not have McClain’s size but he is a much more physical player. He should easily be a first round pick.

     

    One of the best things you can say about Mosley is that he can play a number of positions. He was an inside linebacker for Alabama in a 3-4 front, but he can also play all three linebacker positions in a 4-3.

    He has good size at 6023 – 234, and he has the frame to play at 240. He didn’t work out at combine but ran 4.61 at his pro day.

     

    Mosley is highly instinctive, tough, and aggressive. He can play the run, drop into coverage, or rush the passer. He has the athleticism to play man coverage on backs and tight ends. This gives defenses a lot of flexibility. Throughout his career. He was always one of Alabama’s leading tacklers.

     

    He will be a similar player to kuechly. Fact is anybody notice that Panthers defense became reverent once he was drafted. A stud defense needs a stud LB. He will not be good as Urlacher was but his present will make people around him better.

     

     

     

     

     

  4. Dude, you're killing me. I let it go before but in this post alone you used the word "valve" three times when you meant value. Please stop doing that.

    I will try to watch that, Im a plumber, valve comes into play much more that value in my life and I dont proof read my threads all the time.

  5. http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/be...-nfl-draft.html

     

    I don't even know where to begin, except to say that if Hub could find a ranking or mock draft down in the last month that has Aaron Donald ranked 40th, I will give him $1000. Ditto for one that has a RB with a top 20 ranking. As for "biting the bullet" and going offense over defense despite need, rather thatn "reaching" for the 19th best player at pick 14, I can't even.

    I dont agree with a lot of things he says but he is not clueless. He was talking about how bad the Bears WRs were two years before anyone else was saying it.

     

    He doenst like Donald because he is small. If he is a stud pass rusher, no one will care if he is lacking in run defense. The valve thing is stupid because he assessment on valve is compromised because of draft guides he was pushing. He thought Long was a huge reach he has since recanted but that shows you all valuations has flaws. We dont draft a OT because one of the top 3 dropped to us. We are not in need at that position and there has to be stud D player on the board of equal valve . TE is the one position where if we grabbed Ebron, I wouldnt be complaining. He is a stud and adding another weapon to our offense could only make good things happen. BUT Im not pining for that. I all in on one of these 3 Donald,Pryor,and Haha. I have a secret wish to draft Mosley but that is because I have been spoiled with the likes of Butkus,Urlacher and the many of other stout MLBs we have had along the way. I cant see me being un happy with our pick at 14 any way he goes, but then Im easy.Most of you arent.

  6. S is weak after the first two?

     

    No way. Personally I feel a few of the S are top Quality

    I think the first two will be instant starters but the next two Ward and Bucannon are question marks as starters there first year.The rest of the class is way back.

  7. Dt, we'll be fine short term.Have enough to get us thru, plus there will dt cuts when camp starts and even after the draft. I have no faith in Bostic and with Briggs coming close to retirement, we need the help. Back 7 was our biggest liability last year and I hit it hard

    I think if our roster was done as of today, where would our weaknesses be?

     

    Offensively-I think the Bears are ok with Palmer as our backup QB-I trust Trestmans judgement. IMPORTANCE-LOW

    We definitely need a another RB and TE prospect to add to our depth. Those can all be obtained after the 3rd round. IMPORTANCE-RB-high----TE-medium.

     

    Defensively- We have a our starters back at CB but little depth. Definitely a need but can be gotten in the first 4 rounds. IMPORTANCE-medium

    At S I think the only quality starter among us is Mundy. Conte may be able to get back in the picture but that is a big ? mark. They jumped on Mundy right out of the blocks in FAgency and I think they judge him as an upgrade over Wright. They have to address this position early. 1st or 2nd. IMPORTANCE- high

    At LB we have starters two positions with a big question mark at SLB but have some bodies to throw there. I think Williams is a injury waiting to happen and deem a must address spot. IMPORTANCE- high

    At DE we added several FAs and have no need to even go there.

    At DT we have two starters back. Ratliff and Paea but depth is lacking. Collins is well liked by the Bears and Houston and Idonije can play the 3 T spot, so I think we add possibly two prospects here. IMPORTANCE-high

     

    So our first 4 rounds will be S-DT-LB-CB. not necessarily in that order.

     

     

  8. Almost every thread refers to this years draft, so my last thoughts on what's going to happen.

     

    DT and S are our two most pressings needs.

     

    We wont be drafting a QB. Emery stated QBs drafted after the 3 rd dont stay on NFL rosters very long. There is a few exceptions to this rule but since our first two picks wont be a QB , we simply wont be grabbing one.

     

    Emery will address the depth at RB and TE and dont discount a OL prospect somewhere at the end of the draft.

     

    At the first pick, he will take the best D player on the board. Whether that be Gilbert,Donald,Haha or Mosely. I have no problem with any of those names.

     

    If we trade back, Dennard,Pryor,Fuller, Hageman,Truitt, Nix all come into play.

     

    I think our surprise pick will be Mosely because everybody thinks this isnt a need, but if he is the best D player on the board,it could happen.

     

    Nix could also be a surprise pick. IF he didnt have his injury he would be rated a top 10 valve in this years draft.

     

    S position is weak after the first two picks.

    CB is deep and could see us waiting until the 3rd or 4th round with that spot.

    After Donald (and I believe he will be gone) there are several 3 tier Ts to consider, Quarles,Easley,Hageman,Truitt,Johnson,Reid. We could wait until the 3rd or 4th round to address this need.

     

     

  9. Impossible

    That is very possible. 3 OTs-1-QB-2WRs-1TE thats 7 offensive players. Now with the 7 picks left you have Clownery-Mack-Barr that leaves the next best defensive players as Gilbert,Donald,HaHa, and Mosely. Pryor is the only one that could be left on the board, and some like him better than Haha.

     

    Do not be surprised if we see names like Fuller,Hageman,Truitt,Nix get taken higher than there valve spot dictated to them.

     

    I dont think there is anyway we can screw up our first round pick. I would be happy with any of those names mentioned above.

     

    We have to find a S starter in this draft,DT depth,CB depth and a MLB prospect.

     

    Ideal picks-Donald,Pryor,HaHa,Gilbert----valve picks at 14

     

    I would have no problem if we draft Mosely as he is a top 10 talent and love all pro MLBs on my Bear team which he will be. A team leader would add a lot to stability to our defense.

     

     

     

  10. here is my mock that addresses this scenario:

     

    http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/sharedraft.php?d=mdqqlj

     

     

    20 S DEONE BUCANNON WASHINGTON STATE

     

     

    51 DE STEPHON TUITT NOTRE DAME

     

     

    52 S TERRENCE BROOKS FLORIDA STATE

     

     

    82 CB PIERRE DESIR LINDENWOOD

     

     

    123 DT KELCY QUARLES SOUTH CAROLINA

     

     

    156 CB WALT AIKENS LIBERTY

     

     

    183 RB MARION GRICE ARIZONA STATE

     

     

    191 WR T.J. JONES NOTRE DAME

     

     

    239 TE COLT LYERLA OREGON

    Aikens is an interesting prospect. He was an all big 10 rookie CB at Illinois and got kicked out of school and ended up at Liberty to continue his college career. A major college recuit, who fell off the radar. Definitely someone to keep an eye on.

    That would be a excellent draft for us. Grice,Lyerla,Desir, all names to pay attention too.

  11. Good point. It's not like there is money riding on it. I'm having fun with this, but what of are the odds that any of us actually make a correct pick after the first round?

    What were all doing is addressing needs of the teams were picking for,after the first round, its a crapshoot for GMs and we arent any different.

  12. I don't think I'd like this draft very much. I'm on record as not being a fan of LB in the first, and I stand by it. In just about any draft. But this year, with so much prime DT and FS talent there, it'd be a waste. Not a fan of Will Sutton or Ka'deem Carey either. And to top it all off, I still disagree with the notion that the Bears need TE depth. They do not. They have a starter and a capable backup.

     

    I do like Brooks in the 2nd and the flyer on Logan Thomas though.

    Mosely will be a all pro type LBer and would have no problem with him on our team. When Donald.,Haha,Pryor and Gilbert are gone, he is the next best Defensive player on the board.

  13. What if Donald,Gilbert,Pryor,HaHa are all gone?

     

    I think the possibility exists that there is not the run on QBs that some are predicting so that will pull stud D players we all cherish.

     

    If those 4 are gone I think the next best defensive players would be Mosely, Dennard. I would not object to those picks. Fuller, Ward, Hageman, and Truitt are a bit of a reach at 14, but I think all will be good players.

     

    Hageman seems to be the risky player of all those names. Didnt have production to back up physical numbers. I would prefer Fuller to Dennard, seems to be more instinctive to me. I think we probably trade back some spots and grab Mosely, Fuller, Ward, or Truitt. So that is my call on the upcoming event.

  14. Any of the first 3 picks used on guys that won't see the field on game 1 would piss me off. I also agree with everyone else that any of the top 6 defenders are there don't pass on them.

    I will be mad if we dont take the BPA at a defensive need. Pryor,HaHa,Donald,Gilbert,Mosely are all valve picks at 14 and wont have any problem with any of them. Hageman, Truitt are rated as more of later in the first round picks. If we trade back and grab one of them or a Kyle Fuller, Im good with all that.

  15. Dude, I was just following the rules set forth at the beginning of the thread as best as I could.

     

    With the 77th pick in the 2014 NFL draft, the Niners select Marcus Roberson, CB, Florida. He's got upside, and it's an obvious position of need.

     

    Dallas (Stinger) is on the clock.

    At 78 Dallas selects Will Clarke/DE, a little reach but has upside

  16. With the 67th pick in the 2014 NFL draft, the Oakland Raiders select:

    Zach Mettenberger QB LSU

     

    If he lasts this long, it's a great pick for the Raiders. Schaub is a stop-gap, not a long-term answer. I don't buy into the Savage hype.

     

    Atlanta (Stinger) is on the clock.

    With the 68th pick, Atlanta takes Kareem Martin/DE---the need to upgrade the passrush.... Who's next

  17. Not that I consider myself one of the gurus but I'll jump in anyway. I like him but agree with others: he appears to be more quick than fast. It is nice to see a college player with solid tackling skills for once. I watched his game against ASU, a team I know fairly well. You can see he's a good player between the hash marks. Once he gets into space for coverage players start moving past him so for our scheme that could be a big liability. If he can use his quickness to get around a block, which he's very good at doing, he's good but if a blocker gets on him he's another SMC. I don't think we'd take him in the 3rd, at least I don't like that idea as I like to see 3rd Rd picks with a little more athleticism to be starters once they develop. In the 3rd Rd, given our needs I'd be ok, but if he drops into the 4th Rd very good value. He is likely a very good specials teams player. In a 3-4 with less coverage responsibility he may have more success. OTOH, depending on how SMC and Bostic develop we could use him as a 2 down MLB... but at the moment that's a whole lot of If's.

     

     

    http://draftbreakdown.com/video/chris-borl...rizona-st-2013/

    I watched 3 games of Borland, he didnt stand out for me. Im changing my position on him. I think I would rather see a more athletic player for that spot Zumwalt or a Bullough. Mosely is the best MLB in the draft.

  18. Lance Briggs is not going to be hurt to start the year. There's just no reason to believe that right now.

    Briggs needs to be healthy for us to be legitimate on defense.His health has been brought up before. Actually the shoulder not being up to par came from his mouth in an interview. As you stated before, he was cleared to play and play like dog shit he did. There is plenty of time for him to get where he needs to be but it does raise the question of when he falls off the ladder,physically. He is at that age where it can be overnight. With all we have added to the defense so far, LB doesnt have much depth. With Williams injury history and poor play of the rookies, Briggs needs to be playing for a new contract, and I hope he is what he use to be. Our first two picks need to be S and DT in any order. S is a weaker position so Im up for Pryor. I honestly dont think Donald will be there, you have the Giants, Dallas moving up, and dont put it past Lovie to grab Donald. If the QBs dont get a run on early, we are talking about Gilbert,Donald and HaHa being gone. There is no other DT worthy of 14, if we trade back, Hageman, Truitt come into play. I dont see Jerringan as a viable valve at 14.

     

    I think we end up trading back and grab,hopefully Pryor,or a Ward,possibly Bucannon late in the round. I think by the time 51 gets there the only 4 potential starters at S will be gone. You like the 5-8 safety, but I dont think he is a starter. The only other way we may go for a starting S is grab a CB/S like McGill,Exum or a Huff that could be a later round surprise that could play there.

  19. Wouldn't hate that one bit....From what it sounds like we won't be drafting a QB though. Then again Emery said you only find quality guys in the first few rounds, and McCaron in the 4th would be a guy who very could well have a first few round grade.

    I dont think Emery is broadcasting to the NFL what he's doing in the draft. I like all the names, but Donald and Quarles would play the same position, so if he got another DT, I think it would be a NT type.(Justin Ellis)?

  20. With the 62 pick in the 2014 NFL draft, the New England Patriots select Troy Niklas, TE from the University of Notre Dame.

     

    With Gronk always injured and Hernandez detained, TE is a huge need for the Patriots who like to run two TE sets. This came down to Niklas or Seferian-Jenkins. Seferian-Jenkins is more experienced, but Niklas is the better athlete. I've seen Niklas go anywhere from late first round to all the way to the 4th. One magazine said, "If there is a Gronk in the group (TE), Niklas could be the guy. He's the biggest and one of themost athletic of this year's TE group."

     

    Denver (Stinger) is on the clock at number 63.

    With the 63rd pick Denver takes Jordan Zumwatt/ lb----- they shore up the middle of there defense.

  21. What do you think of this fella?

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCbBmcxmFHY

     

    Potentially a 3rd, 4th round guy?

    Every year there are (football players) that dont get there accolades because of the premium people put on the athletic traits of a player. There's many more examples where the (football player) has made it in the NFL instead of the stud athletic. We do need to add a MLB to the mix. Williams can fill the position but hasnt been a full time starter since 2011 due to injuries and suspensions.Lets say Briggs is still hurt and cant start. Can we feel good if Bostic, Williams and SCM are our starters on day 1 one of the season? S and then DT are our major needs, but dont discount our need at LB. If the surprise pic that Emery delivers to us this year is Mosely with our first pick, it will not be received well by this group.I will have no problem with that pic. I think he will be a tackle machine for years to come, and once the rest of you see him play for a year, there will be tons of fans on this site. I think we need to go S first for the sake of a weak class, and as Emery stated he wants to draft a starter with that first pick. A CB as a high pick wont start day one unless there is injury. DT will be a rotational guy, Safety almost is a guarantee, but a MLB could fill that spot. Borland would be a sneaky good pick in the 3rd or 4th round, but Mosely is the only bonified starter we could draft and that could be the first day.

  22. I apologize for the wait.....With the 58th pick of the 2014 NFL draft the Saints select.....Phillip Gaines CB Rice.

     

    According to rotoworld the Saints top needs are CB/OLB/OC, I already got them Dee Ford in the 1st, so I go CB here and take Gaines. I really love Gaines size/speed combo at 6' with 4.3 speed. He's a guy who in real life I think lasts till the 3rd round and a guy I'd love for the Bears to grab. Going off this big board though he's the top CB available making him my pick.

     

    The Colts (stinger) are on the clock.

     

    The Colts have some weak spots on the offensive line they need to address.

     

    So The Indy Colts pick -----Travis Swanson/OC---they need to upgrade their center position as a 4th round rookie played the position last year.

    Carolina(Adam) is on the clock.

     

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