Stinger226
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Manning did the Pats D dirty. 8.9 yards per play was the 3rd most by any team this season. Bears worst game against Philly they gave up 8.2 yards per play.....But injuries don't matter when you have Bill Belichek right? =p (semi sarcastic)
I think if we landed DE Bennett, that would be a good signing.
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They can keep Raji.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedi...content.11.html
Can probably get a rock in the middle in the 2nd-4th round who would be just as good as him or probably better.....Or give me Terrance Cody who will come much, much cheaper.
Just got back from a week in Honduras(warm weather) so I can rap my mind around all of things we are talking about. I think Cody is someone we could realistically get.
This is my take: the Bears have set themselves up to be flexible with the cap so I think we get one FA with a good contract and a couple of lower end FAs.
I think they release Peppers so we resign Wooten as one DE( will come back to us on low end contract)
I think we go after one DE like a Bennett that we wont get raped.
We are in best position to get a moderate contract with Ratliff,Collins and probably Melton on a incentive laden contract.
I think we bring back Bowman and dont end up with Peanut.
We are suppose to be going young, but a thought of mine is to bring in some defensive leadership, maybe go after Vilma,MLB , could be got cheap, NO has big time cap issues.
I think he could add some grit to the middle of defense and was there defensive leader until he was hurt, will be 32 thou next year. JUST THINKING OUT LOUD
With all of the cap issues in NOs and with Grahams contract expired maybe we could get Brian LePuerta beings he has ties with our OC. A young pro caliber center
I think the rest of positions will be addressed in draft
I think we will be signing a whole bunch of 1mil FAs similar to last year.
If I want to play Fantasy FAgency I could throw out lots of names, the fact is we will grab one good FA and a bunch of fill in the blanks. wish is wasnt so.
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What argument is that?
he hasnt decided what dead horse he will ride this off season.
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But what exactly is he supposed to do? How should he have adjusted schematically? You guys keep saying this without backing it up with any logic.
How do you maximize the players he had to work with?? Should he have shifted to 3-4 midseason even though he didn't have the parts?
How do you max a team who is running out Peppers-Wootton-Paea-SMC as their best 4 guys. How can you possibly make that look good.
THE SAINTS HAD GOOD PLAYERS THAT PLAYED ALL SEASON, THE BEARS HAD BEAR POO.
we got injured and old at the same time. a lack of leadership, poor drafting; everything hit all at once.we , no matter who the cordinator was we were going to be bad. lets see what they do, and see what happens. im in houduras and a little out of touch for a week.
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Well done Alshon!
We give Emery a hard time on his first year draft, but he gave us a pro bowler and a servial player in Frey.He brought us Marshall. We have the best tandem WRs in the league this side of Denver.
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Depends what defense we run
If we stick with a 4-3 my wish list would be...
DE- Michael Bennett- He's not the best DE on the market but I do think he'd give the Bears the best deal.
FS- Jarius Byrd- It is a wish list after all.
Resign Melton, Ratliff, Williams and Tillman (just including the "big names")
Draft
1R- Stephon Tuit DE/DT- Starting DL = Bennett-Melton-Ratliff-Tuit
2R- Travis Swanson OC- Yup, I went there.
3R- Deone Bucannon SS- pairs with Byrd to really finish off the starting D.
4R- Taylor Hart DE/DT- Provides depth at both DE and DT
5R- De'Anthony Thomas RB- Since I'm cutting Bush I need a RB. A punishing up the gut RB doesn't seem to be a need.
6R- Boseko Lokombo OLB- Yup, 3 straight Ducks. Lokombo provides competition to Greene and the loser of Williams/Bostic for OLB.
6R- Marcel Jenkins TE- Potential steal of the draft and a backup for Bennett
If we switch to a 3-4
Vontae Davis CB- Has the speed to play man to man.
Jarius Byrd FS- Again, this is a wish list right? I say that because I don't think he'll hit FA
Terrance Cody NT- I'm not sure Ratliff still has what it takes to man NT, Cody sure does
Resign Wootton, Williams, Ratliff
Draft
1R Tuit DE- Fits both systems. Front 3= Tuit-Cody-Wootton.
2R- Christian Jones ILB- LBs = Briggs-Williams/Bostic-Jones-SMC/Bostic
3R- Deone Bucannon S- Same
4R- Tyler Larson OC- Good fit in a inside zone scheme
5R- De'Anthony Thomas- Same
6R- Ryan Carrenthers NT- NT prospect to fill in should big ol Mt. Cody gets hurt.
6R- L'Damian Washington WR- A 6'4" WR project that runs a 4.3, um yes please.
I like a lot of your names, the first round is one we could use at either position in either scheme. I give you a hard time sometimes, but you do have a lot good input in this blog.
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This is a great article for rebuilding the Bears. Im not sure how to link this, so Im sure one of you brains will do it for us.
Breaking Down Chicago Bears' 2014 Salary Cap: Where Is Money Best Spent?
Its on Bleacher report?Bears
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Way I see it is the money is there if they need it. Plain and simple. Like I've outlined a million times though already, I think the Bears will be working with a good deal of cap space already should they release Pep, Bennett, Bush, Weems?, and Podlesh while also extending Marshall so I'm not so sure they would actually need to do anything with the Cutler deal....If they have to though, the money is there.
I heard they stuctured Slauson, Jennings contracts the same way. They did this for ultimate flexibility. I also think it is basically a 3 year 54 mil deal and their off the hook. If this plan doesnt work with Cutler, they move on. If it develops as planned it in the end will be good deal. Also, I think it tells us it will take more than one year to build the defense, by throwing everything up front, it gives them a couple of years to get this done,and all the contracts will be user friendly if they have to move on from their plan.
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I think the Bears share my significant concerns with Nut's health. I think the world of him but it wouldn't surprise me at all if his Bear's career was over.
I think he goes and joins Lovie. I think some of the old regime on defense kinda didnt buy in to the new guys and that contributed the breakdown of the defense.
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Interesting take considering Urlacher was still a huge asset if for nothing else as a "leader" yet Briggs doesn't step up in the last two games and you're ready to cut bait...again.
In response to AZ's comment though I for one am actually ok should Briggs leave. I don't think there will be much more reason for him to return this year. He's been a malcontent off and on for years and less 'leader quality' especially compared to URL. He'd be foolish if he didn't try and get to TB.
To fill the void I think the logical choice is Peanut. He epitomizes the role and would be spectacular in leading the soon to be youth movement on D. If not him then maybe Jennings. He said he wanted to be a cornerstone guy, he got the contract now is the time. Beyond that I would think either Ratliff (even though he's new) or Anderson would be next in line.
I think our leadership role will be filled in FAgency, and or the draft. We need a stud that can handle the leadership role.
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Interesting take considering Urlacher was still a huge asset if for nothing else as a "leader" yet Briggs doesn't step up in the last two games and you're ready to cut bait...again.
In response to AZ's comment though I for one am actually ok should Briggs leave. I don't think there will be much more reason for him to return this year. He's been a malcontent off and on for years and less 'leader quality' especially compared to URL. He'd be foolish if he didn't try and get to TB.
To fill the void I think the logical choice is Peanut. He epitomizes the role and would be spectacular in leading the soon to be youth movement on D. If not him then maybe Jennings. He said he wanted to be a cornerstone guy, he got the contract now is the time. Beyond that I would think either Ratliff (even though he's new) or Anderson would be next in line.
Add into that he will be pining for a new contract. So I think with all we have to do on defense, lets just move on rebuild everything. we save 5.5 if we let Briggs go.
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I still believe Tucker is safe because they could be interviewing people already, so I have to assume there is a reason.
There is not much deception to any Cover-2 or 4-3 defense. If you have the right personnel, it can be effective, but if not, you can really get torched. No other defense seems to be so bang or bust. I would like to see a 3-4 at least considered, but unless we can improve our tackling and discipline, the scheme doesn't really matter.
On the radio today they were talking about some hybrid defenses. Like a 3-4 with 4-3 personal, that gives us 4 pass rushers. I personally think they have a plan and will get it to where it needs to be. We either have to trust they know what there doing or stay on the titanic and ride it down. I prefer-hope.
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It looks different to me
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And lastly, one last tweet before ya'll respond....
dan durkin @djdurkin 4 Jan
one area #bears fans should never worry about is cap management. cliff stein has proven to be one of, if not the best in the nfl.
Bingo Bango Bongo....In Cliff I trust.
Dan Durkin was on the score this morning and made some interesting points.
Cutler will be a 22.5 cap hit
If we cut Peppers we we will save 14.1 against the cap
We are up against the cap, so Clayton is probably right on.
We have dead money carry over from the last 2 years. He mentioned Carmi, and dont remember the other two, so none of us were looking at that.
Cutlers contract is full bore the first 3 years and then after that, he costs us nothing, the only QB contract that doesnt have later years costing the team cap money.
He stated players we can cut and save money;
Weems
Bennett
Peppers
Bush
He stated we probably wont have enough money to bring in a top tier defensive player, and we will only be signing our own FAs if they come back at our price.
So if he is right we will be making one medium cost player to add to the defense.,resign some of our own, draft hopefully 3 starters on defense, and a whole bunch of 1 mil players like we did this year.
So we are only deaming if we think we have wholesale changes on defense. I think we can hope for the best of having 4 new starts and a bunch of the same. Our younger players have to better.
DE new guy, Bass,SCM,and some of maybe own back.
DT drafted player, Paea, and maybe some of our own back, 1 mil signees.
LB, Bostic,Greene, Briggs,SCM and maybe a cheap FA.
CB-Frey,Jennings, some of our own and a couple of draft picks
S-Conti,draft pick, FA, some cheap FA signings.
The most important thing we need to do is add a defensive team leader, and playmaker. DE,DT,S,CB, I think we take the best player available in that, it has to be a playmaker.
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TD listed 7 guys. Last year they added 7 new starters (Bushrod, Slaus, Long, Mills, Bennett, Williams, Anderson) so it's not impossible. Just gotta make some key cheap signings like Slaus/Williams/Anderson....
I'm really hoping for a 3-4 switch. In which case you bring back Ratliff with the thought that if you can't get a NT in the draft you just stick with him. I firmly believe he won't be more than 2M. He's coming off an injury plagued year where he only played what 4 games?? I'd be surprise if he got more than 2.5 and shocked if he gets 4+. Try to add another biggy in the mid rounds to spell Ratliff, or push Ratliff outside.
Bring back Wootton for cheap to play 3-4 DE. Since he had a down year he's not gonna cost too much, again I expect ~2M. Bring back Melton on somewhat of a prove it deal to play opposite Wootton. I'm guessing 5M tops
That's about 9M on the starting DL
Bring back Williams, who has experience in a 3-4 on another cheap 1.5 deal. Draft another ILB high to compete with both Williams and Bostic. Go with the 2 winners of the competition in the middle with Briggs and SMC on the end.
Jennings is a lock of course, but they need to draft another starting CB early in the draft.
If my calculations are correct, and the Bears make all the cuts I suggested, that's around 10.5M of 21-26M in cap room and they already have everything but their starting safties.....I really think Byrd and Ward get resigned or franchised so a guy like Ihedigibo might be the best option at like 3-5M....Then you draft another S and boom, you've got a defense with money left to build depth.
Looking at....
DL- Melton-Ratliff-Wootton
LB- Briggs-Bostic-Williams-SMC
CB- Jennings-?-Frey-Hayden
S- Ihedigbo-?
....Before the draft
Ideal draft....(using the mock draft simulator)
1R- Jason Verrett CB- Capable speed to play man
2R- Ra'shede Hageman DE/DT- Seen some reports saying he's an ideal 3-4 DE, and another say he can be a 3-4 NT...Wherever he plays we could use em
3R- Calvin Pryor S- Plays nnext to Ihedigbo
4R- AJ Johnson ILB- Speedy, SEC tackling machine, not sure why he's being called a 4th rounder here.
5R- Bryan Stork C- Center to compete with Boggs who the Bears like
6R- Ryan Carrenthers NT- Another monster NT
6R- L'Damian Washington Wr- Just for funzies I'll draft the 6'4" guy with 4.3 speed
Defense then becomes
DL- Melton-Ratliff-Hageman with Wootton and Carrenthers providing depth
LB- Briggs-Bostic-Williams-SMC with Johnson providing depth/competition to Bostic/Williams. Greene/Costanzo also provide depth
CB-Jennings-Verrett-Frey-Hayden with another cheap no cap vet brought in as well
S- Ihedigbo-Pryor with Conte under contract you might as well keep him aboard.
Bam. It may not be a top 10 D but if everything goes right, and the O continues to grow or even just stand pat the Bears should be able to compete with that team.
Were looking at this from the outside, and I think they have a plan. Its not our plan. They will be creative and as SCS stated, a top and medium paid starters to defense and hopefully grab 3 starters in the draft. If we get rid of Briggs, it will only count 1 mil. against the cap and save us 4.5. We cant be as GOD AWFUL as we were this year. We need to let them do it and see what happens. They will fill the roster with the Andersons, Williams type 1 mil players like this year.
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Not sure I agree with this but it's a "glass half full" take on what many of us are struggling to understand.
http://gapersblock.com/tailgate/2014/01/be...iendly-deal.php
Again, I don't know what the real contract details are but it seems most are agreeing that first year salary is $22.5. If as this article suggests this doesn't stop them from going after the star defensive FA's out there, it might make sense. I'm still trying to come to grips with it.
The details of the contract are not public yet, so anybody can assume what they want. The three years of 54 is simply front loading the contract so in three years if it doesnt go the way they expect, they can cut ties with him and no cap hits. Any large contracts they might sign players to now, they can back load contracts to take the biggest hits when Cutlers contract gets easier. Stien has always been good with the cap, so I think they probably have things figured out going forward.
They did it quickly so they know what they have to spend , so I suspect they have a plan on who they want.
Cutler got what QBs get in modern NFL.
I read an article on PFF and it had Jay ranked in the top 10 this year for QBs, and they is how they paid him.
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After Cutler's signing, I imagine Mel Tucker will keep his job this year as a scapegoat for a bad defense this coming year.
You nailed it, they keep Tucker to have a good excuse for being bad. give me a break.
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The GB player made a great play on Peppers. That's it. Emery talked about Peppers and said that Peppers had an 8-8 season just like everyone else. I think it would be wise to bring Pepp back but he'll need to restructure and hopefully he will. Is Wooten under contract? He is, right? I don't think we can afford to be replacing an entire line, I'd think we'd start by replacing 2 players on the d-line and adding depth.
A lot of the defensive needs will be determined based upon what Phil/Trest decide the strategy will be going forward. It sounds like Shea/Bostic are both going to move outside which might mean Briggs is on his way out. That said, Emery was pretty damn complimenting of Briggs and Briggs could be a pretty good player as one of the two interior LB's in a 3-4. I'd really love Peanut back as our safety. Dline has to be fixed and DT has to be the biggest priority. I think we will sign Bennett's brother and then focus heavily on the tackle / lb position in the draft. Would be curious if we make a run at Byrd for safety as clearly we have to make some changes their as well.
Paying Cutler will limit us on many big signings. One pass rusher and will go after the 1 mil. contracts to add the depth. The draft will be key, have to get 3 defensive starters out of it. I think with SMC going to OLB and Bostic also, Briggs may be on his way out. He will only cost 1 mil. against the cap. I think it is time to get rid of our old crap and bring in some new crap to get our dandruff up.
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2 years too late, but better late than never. Just hope its in a 3-4 scheme.
At least they see what we see and will adjust whether it works out, time will tell.
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Did you see the defense this year? It's not that it's coming out of people's pay checks, it's about having money to improve the team. The quality of quarterback play by Jay Cutler at 30 years old does not warrant 1/6th of the teams cap space for the next 7 years.
If we didnt give him that someone else would have. I dont think it is worth it, but the only QBs in the league earning there money are Brady,Brees and Manning. All the rest are overpaid. They didnt screw around and now know what they have to work with and to go after who they want. This is the modern NFL, all we can hope for now is Trestman gets Jays shit together and we can talk about playoff games instead of opinions on Jay.,
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I couldn't agree more Pix.
I heard it was guaranteed at 54. So for the 1st 3 years we pay 18 per and after that it is a play per year, so his cost is gone. I like the fact they addressed who they wanted and got it done. Now they know what they have to spend and will judge their signing accordingly. It aint my money, and it doesnt really matter what I or you guys think, the only one that matters is Trestman wanted him. I trust him.
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Reports say Jeff Redford will be o cord and Frazier will run the D and JA could join to run the personnel dept lol
good luck with all of that
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I'm with most here. Nix or HHCD would be great. I think nix could fit into either a 3-4 or 4-3. I haven't ever seen his motor questioned. Definitely a play maker IMO
Since your a ND guy,they have two gems this year in Nix and Truitt. Would not mine if we had either on team next year.
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I agree. Grab nix in 1st and sign Byrd. That would be a huge step forward
Those would be good additions. When we have a good defense we always have had good pressure from the front.I am for drafting HaHa and grabing a NT in the second round. McCullens from Tenn is a huge ,man.. Then getting a pass rushing DE,in free agency, like Johnson, Bennett, Jones, Orakpo, there are several out there we can get for the money we save from cutting Peppers. I think we need a team leader like Troy P.,or Reed were as great safeties, and would get that with HaHa.
2014 Free Agents to fix the Defense
in Bearstalk
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I wish to throw out the name of Stevie Brown/S/Giants. He is a free agent, 5/11 221/ 4 year veteran. Had a big year 2012, 78 tackles, 8 int,11 PDs, 2 FF. in 11 starts.
He is coming off an injury in 2013, if healthy, a up and comer that be gotten for a decent price. I dont think we have the money to go after Byrd or Ward, so an alternate plan.
Another name I like is Brian De La Puerta/OC/NO. he is a FA and with there cap problems, he may be ripe for the picking.