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He's gonna be a running back. You utilize him the same way the Lions did with Reggie Bush in the passing game and pitch the ball to him out on the edge and he COULD become something.....To me it's no different than NFL teams looking for basketball players to play TE.
He is 5'8' 173 llbs, and has only played rugby for 6 months. After training camp will we never here his name again,we found your Marcus Webb for the year, someone you fall in love with that will turn out to be 00000000000000000000000
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Reread your post and see who you compared him too. Isn't Bush with Detroit? So with him and Bell etched as their one two punch what would be left for a raw project RB but special teams or practice squad.
I liken him to the Onobun our robo TE, stud body, no football sense. He will never make it, how many Sprinters try to play in the NFL and only a couple made something out it. He is just a name, we will never see in lights.
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The difference is Isles has world class speed. He may not become Darren Sproles but he can become Detroits Trindon Holliday.
Dude runs a 4.22 40
Maybe, but I dont wish him well, he is not in blue and orange.
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This is actually a bit of old news, he signed on Jan 10th, but I hadn't heard until just now when I was watching the rugby 7s.....If this guy puts it together he's going to be an absolute pest, think Darren Sproles.
Wish we had a catch all for this sort of stuff.
I dont think you need to worry about it, rugby players dont usually translate to the NFL.
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Hageman is bigger in height but they're about the same "girth" wise. Again, Hageman is 6'6" 318 while Donald is a touch under 6'1" 288 so while Hageman is 20 pounds heavier he also has 5 more inches for it to be distributed.
I again come back to Glenn Dorsey who played NT for San Fran at almost the same exact height and weight as Donald.
I like Donald more as a 3/5 technique though.
Dorsey wasnt special when at KC, but with a ton of good players on the SF defense, I suspect he looked better.
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Could be a hybrid, could be a straight 4-3, or it could be a 3-4. I don't see the player personnel leaning one way or the other to be honest. If the stick with a 4-3 they still need to sign 3 starting lineman(if Peppers is cut) 2 starting safeties and 1 starting CB. For a 3-4 you could argue that they need 2 starting lineman(assuming Paea gets a spot), 2 safeties, and a LB. So unless you don't think Paea is a good starting option as a DT/DE(whatever you wanna call it) then the number of starters needed is exactly the same.....One could argue that it may just be cheaper to sign our own though.
Some 2nd tier FAgents I would like to see us sign.(in no particular order)
Dexter McCluster/KR/WR --------could play the slot and is a good KR we could get for the same money Hester will probably cost to bring back. 26 years old
Brian De La Puente/OC-----------he wont command a large contract but wont be cheap either. It is an above average center with ties to Kromer who could probably get him here. 29 years old
Vance Walker/DT------------------40 tackles, 3 sacks at 6-3 305, adds a little more beef to the rotation 27 years old
Everson Griffen/DE---------------13+1/2 sacks the last two years in a part time role, may be able to catch cheap with upside 27 years old
Jon Beason/MLB------------------ a team leader type, stout against the run 93 tackles-one interception at 29 years old
Cris Cook/CB--------------------a high round pick that didnt pan out, 6-2 with 4.46 speed, maybe we can restart his career with a new home 27 years old
Stevie Brown/S-----------------coming off of knee surgery but had a very good 2012, might be able to catch him cheap until he proves himself again 29 years old
Other than De La Puente all of these players can come on team friendly contracts
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Gotcha, well I haven't seen anything yet so I question the validity of it....I do think that they should try to shift a lot of his money into bonus money if possible. If they can reduce his cap hit a ton it could make sense to keep him. He's been awfully inconsistent the last 2 years but he still shows flashes here and there. Paired with some better lineman he might become more consistent.
I think we take the cap hit this year and be done with it. If we keep him one more year and then restructure his contact, we just move the money out for another year to take the big cap hit so he will be expensive for two years instead of just one. Just cut our losses and move on.
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That very well could end up what happens and I wouldn't hate it at all. I'm just living in an ideal world where we can still get the guy while also picking up a 2nd rounder.
here is a 3 round draft from The Football Spot 1/16/14
1-Hageman/DT/Minn
2-Colvin/CB/Okla
3-Bullough/MLB/MSU
not familiar with the last two names
using there draft here is who I would take:
1-Hageman/DT/Minn---------------We need a large man to add to our line and he is 6-6 318, athletic, can play several positions along the line
2-Bucannon/SS/WashSt------------He has size and 109 tackles with 5 interceptions his senior year. A playmaker type we desperately need.
3-Jones/DT/PennSta----------------He was still available in this round so I thought I had to take him. A productive 6-3 318lb that could also fit in a DE spot in the 3-4.
I feel our biggest need is to be strong up the middle and these 3 would go along way at making that happen. I also thought about Smallwood/MLB that was still available in the third, another need spot for us.
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Really a boring game IMO. Donald never got to the QB but he did break through the line quite a few times. I still love em but now I'm not THAT in love with him.
I thought Hageman actually looked better at DE than DT, but not great at either position.
Dee Ford showed off his speed, but for some reason I get a SMC type of vibe with him. He can win with his speed, but what happens when you get a hand on him?
Chris Borland and Telvin Smith were the most impressive LBs. I like the idea of Smith moving back to safety, he could end up being pretty darn good there.
I thought Jimmie Ward and Deone Bucannon looked like the best safeties
Crockett Gilmore looked like a real good TE catching the ball and blocking. If he's there in the 5th I think I'd take him depending on what happens in FA and the first 4 picks.
Stanley Jean-Baptiste and Dontae Johnson were the best of the big CBs.
A guy that really came outta no where to impress me was the dude from Princeton, Caraun Reid. Could be a good 3-4 round pick.
Donald looks like a player, but I think we need someone that can be more of a NT/DT/DE type. Hageman is bigger and can play all those positions. Tuitt can play a couple of different positions if we end up going back and forth with our schemes as I suppect we will. I think we will still be a 4-3 but with the same personal on the field be able to switch into a 3-4 on the fly. Donald could become a stud, but too small to play NT and if we use the 3-4 we have to have that player to make that work. I think we resign Ratcliff , possible of Melton on a earn the money contract, and Collins as a rotational guy. So we need the NT type to rotate with Ratcliff and I think Paea could probably play the end spot in a 3-4. I also think with the pending release of Peppers we may get a pass rushing DE in the first round.
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Just thinking. For those of us, myself included who are not impressed with mel tucker(no caps until he fixes the defense), the hiring of Pasq .... is a prelude to Tucker getting launched.Look for it to happen early in season if there is no marked improvement in the defense. Pasq will take over as DC and then the 3-4 look that they will feature as a change of pace will be more of the base defense. BTW everyone keeps hoping for Peanut to take a move to safety but I think Jennings with a multi-year contract is more of a candidate with his ball skills and tackling ability.
Jennings is younger than peanut so that is why they gave him the money.Peanut will be after more money than the Bears will be offering.I think they will bring Bowman back and a FA or two and a draftee. Tucker will get one year to prove himself .
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I think if we miss on Nix, guys like Hageman and Truitt can fit. Hageman either spot NT/DE or Truitt DE. Obviously we'd want to move down with Truitt. Whichever way we go, the guy that can handle playing 3-4 and 4-3 the better bc i think we will run both.
I agree, we need to fill our NT spot that can play also in a 4-3, we will be mixed in different looks and that is a key.
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He's too small to be a good 3-4 OLB. He'd have to put on about 20 lbs. If he could keep his speed at that weight, it might be worth the effort.
A few teams I can think of that run a 3-4...
Arizona
Abraham - 6'4" - 260
Shaughnessy - 6'5" - 280
Baltimore
Suggs - 6'3" - 260
Dumervil - 5'11" - 260
Cleveland
Kruger - 6'4" - 270
Sheard - 6'2" - 255
Green Bay
Perry - 6'3" - 265
Mulumba - 6'3" - 260
Houston
Reed - 6'3" - 254
Mercilus - 6'4" - 258
San Francisco
Brooks - 6'3" - 259
Smith - 6'4" - 265
SCM and Washington both fall into those numbers, I dont think Bostic is a 3-4 type OLB at his size.
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My question would be more of what's the avg size over last 3-4 yrs of a NT in a 3-4 defense. Obviously there are outliers in everything.
Just kind of average it out probably 6-3 320? Hageman or Nix, would definitely fit the mold. I dont think Donald fits that mold,we have Paea as that smallish backup. He would be a 3T in cover 2, maybe a end in a 3-4 but doubt it.
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Cali Bears
Im not at all a big Romo fan but he is a top 10 qb so I have to take him in the 7th
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I did another Fanspeak mockdraft with the Bears trading down with San Fran to get another 3rd....
1R 30th pick- Aaron Donald DT- Absolutely love the guy as the new 3T DT. Most explosive interior lineman I've seen.
2R- Ed Reynolds FS- Big, smart, good in coverage and a reliable tackler.
3R- Jackson Jeffcoat DE- Only DE in the country to lead his team in tackling. Real good against the run and can get in the backfield to pressure the QB.
3R 30th- Stanley Jean Baptiste CB- If they let Tillman walk they need another big CB to matchup with guys like Megatron.
4R- Taylor Hart DE/DT- Versatile enough to provide depth up and down the line.
5R- Josh Mauro DE- Big DE to provide even more depth
6R- Chris Davis CB- Good special teams player and has looked good at the senior bowl in coverage.
6R- Jordan Najvar TE- Underrated TE who didn't have the chance to shine in Baylors offense that didn't utilize the TE that much. Transfer out of TE U, Stanford
Really heavy on the D for obvious reasons. Add a safety and another impact DE in FA and call it a day.
I like the names you put together, but think in a trade scenario you could have did better than a late 3rd pick.
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Based off what everyone was saying last year about the "ace" and "22" offense (2WR 2TE 1RB) it sure sounded like Trestman wanted to run a Pats like offense. I agree that it would be a luxury at this point with the questions on defense but if they're able to fix most of it in FA then I'd love to see a TE drafted in the mid rounds. Rosario is far from glorified OLineman at 6'3" 240.
With the way our recievers blocked this year I'd love to see another yet another big body added to help block down field and also create yet another mismatch.
They will bring Britton back to put in the te/extra blocking role. maybe a Jeff Cumberland formidably of the Jets can be brought in in FAgency with out much cost.
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My take:
Rd1: Kony Ealy DE Miz
Rd2: Aaron Donald DT Pit
Rd3: Loucheiz Purifoy CB FL
Rd4: Ed Reynolds S Stanford
Rd5: Dontae Johnson CB NC St
Rd6: Tyler Lawson C Utah St
Rd6: Pat O'Donnell P Miami
Early could end up being a beast, but Donald is 6' 288, I was trying to add some bulk to our lineup. Hageman is 309 and Truitt is 312.
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I like yours MUCH better than I like their draft. A TE in the third would be completely idiotic.
That doesnt make a lot of sense for a te. We need another TE but at the end of the draft if it plays out that way.
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Hard to believe we drafted a guy, an Olinemen no less, who went to the Pro Bowl in his rookie season. In the most critical position we needed to hit on in the draft Emery did it, and did it well, even if most of us were saying WTF when he made the pick. He has had his misses in the draft, most notably Hardin (I'll say the book is still out on SMC as I think he is a good football player miscast as a DE), but when we signed him to be our new GM if anyone was asked if he'd be considered a success if he drafted a Pro Bowl player in each of his first two drafts (Jeffrey, Long) I can't think of anyone who would say no.
We're doing something different than what we had done the previous 9 seasons.
Time will tell about how well he is at drafting, but he brought us , as you stated 2 pro bowlers and also, lets not forget, the Marshall trade. I give him a c+ so far. This year will go along way on telling us his expertise. I think the first year he had input from Lovie that may have affected his drafting, last year(still yet to define itself) was basically his first in my book.
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Some interesting names and decisions this year.
The Bunny
3. (25) Peyton Manning (Den - QB)
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9. (85) Josh Gordon (Cle - WR)
So the #1 player in FFB for a 2nd rounder or a top 10 non-QB scorer for an 8th rounder?
For mine, I am stuck between 4-5 players, depending on offseason acquisitions, etc.
how do you change your team in the off season? I thought we picked from the team we drafted?
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Who is this Truitt fellow you speak of? I kid I kid. I'd be down with that, not a big fan of drafttek though, their mocks always seem out of whack.
Im bored and look at everything, at least they take the time to do a whole draft, the one rounders doesnt give much insight.
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That'd be pretty sweet....Would counter balance,in my mind, the fact that Larry Warford was named PFFs offensive player of the year
I looked back at the draft and we could have gotten Warford with our second round pick, he went in early 3rd round and tons of teams passed on him.
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That'd be pretty sweet....Would counter balance,in my mind, the fact that Larry Warford was named PFFs offensive player of the year
Warford would have been a good pick, but I think Long will end up being our LT once Bushrod falls off, Warford cant play that spot.
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I will periodically list mock drafts of at least 3 rounds on this post.
Draft Tek lists a draft as of 1/18
#1 Hagemen/DT/Minn
#2 Bailey/SS/USC
#3 Friedorowski/TE/Iowa
#4 Martin/DE/NC
#5 Ryenolds/CB/OreSU
#6/a Ikard/OC/Oka
#6/b Josh Huff/RB/Oregon
I dont know much about any of them except for Hageman,BUT according to how the draft falls, this is who I would take in those spots
#1 Hageman/DT
#2 S Truitt/DE/ND
#3 Desir/CB/Linedwood
#4 Anthony Johnson/DT/LSU
#5 Ward/SS/NIU
#6 Ikard/OC/Okla
#6 Logan Thomas/QB/VTU
I kiinda went with the best player available theory which got me the 3 DLinemen.

Ugh, Carlin Isles to Detroit.
in Bearstalk
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Im just jacking with you. You only once in awhile have a stupid thought,(like all of us) most of the time you add quality content.