Stinger226
-
Posts
15,474 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Events
Posts posted by Stinger226
-
-
Since the best draft teams take the BPA regardless of position.
What if? one of the 3 OTs fall to us-Robinson-Mathews-Lewan (getting a top 10 LT that would move Bushrod to the right side, cant be all bad for a improving OL)
What if? Barr or Mack drop to us- they are both 3-4 OLBers.( consistent top10 players that can rush the QB but are strictly 3-4 backers)
What if? Watkins or Evans drops to us( these are elite type WRs and not sure we could pass them up)
I would not like to consider any of those possibilities, but one of those situations could come up.
I would think someone would be willing to give us lots of draft picks to grab one of those top 10 type players. That would be my choice and then address the D with those picks.
What say you
-
I would love that draft and also the Matt S. signing, spot on.
Here is a latest mock from NFL Mocks. It doesnt address the DT spot quick enough but if we resign Melton, Ratliff, and another FA Dt this draft would work.
http://nflmocks.com/2014/03/03/chicago-bea...2014-nfl-draft/
-
Worilds is a really good player IMO, he had 7 sacks in the 2nd half of the season, your point remains though.
The more I think about it I think the Bears cap situation is getting a little over blown though. Like Emery said they're rolling in money(or something to that extent).
the ~20M number I brought up in the previous post is actually "short changing them".
Biggs said they have roughly 8.4M right now.
8.4M
+9.8M (Peppers)
+2.45M (Bennett) ((Could potentially see them extending him to lessen his cap))
+1.85M (Bush)
+1M (Podlesh)
+1.1M (Weems)
= 24.6M in cap space....And that's BEFORE potentially dipping into Cutler/Jennings/Slaussons money, AND the possibility exists that the Bears extend BMarsh to gain another mill or 2.
Bears very well could spend close to 30M this year, and with the O pretty much intact that all could go towards the D.
Even if Bennetts market drives him up to the 10M I think I'd do it.
No way they pay Bennett 10 mil to come here. Peppers was effective in 3 and a half games and had the same number of sacks. If his price is driven up, we are out. I hope we can get him done at a contract of 3 years 25 mil with 5 going against the cap this year. We absolutely need a good DE coming out of the FAgency period. We have nothing at DE when we release Peppers. If we designate him for the June 1 release it will 14 mil in available cap space.
-
Agree with Freeman not having his head in the game. Which brings us to what Trestman looks for: In McCown we had a guy on his last stint in the NFL. He was experienced, yet humbled. He accepted the fact that he was not their to replace Jay Cutler, he needed to work well alongside Jay Cutler. McCown understood the west coast, worked his ass off and did exactly what the coaches told him.
In short, we need a washed up quarterback with a final chance a redemption. I wouldn't want him back because of his history, but Rex Grossman would be an ideal fit.
Jordan Palmer has never had the talent or pedigree. You don't want to risk going into the season with any rookie as your #2 QB. Follow the format we did with McCown and find a veteran.
How does Palmer not fall in the same position that Josh was in? Josh had more games played, but both guys have had lackluster careers. His last college football season, Jordan had 67% ,3500 yards and 26 TDs. He has some ability and there is a reason he keeps hanging around our team. I think he gets his shot at role #2.
-
I agree, we should cut Michael Bush and if we do we must sign another RB to take carries off Forte but that can't be one of these little guys. If we grab Thomas or Archer they can't block blitzers so they are purely a speed element on the outside. In other words they'd replace Ford, or just hold down Hester's spot on the roster and Ford is inactive most games. Either way we need someone bigger to share the load the load with Forte. I'd be very happy to see Ka'Deem Carey fall to us in the 4th. I don't care that he ran a 4.7 forty at the combine I've seen enough to know what he can do on the field, including enough speed to break long runs, and he is not easy to tackle.
http://www.azdesertswarm.com/football/2013...ideo-highlights
The littles guys I suggest arent replacing Bushes role, but filling a different one. I think this role could get 10-15 plays a game and takes some of the wear off of Forte. The big back theory hasnt worked, I would rather have Forte at the goal line. We still have a fullback on the roster, and give him some of those carries in short runs.
-
He wasn't tagged, obviously. I think Ward is more realistic. Either way, the safeties on the team don't belong on nfl rosters, Let alone starting.
There are many less expensive options than those two.
Delmars
Whitner
Cleamons
Bethea
Brown- this is my choice to go after-had a great 2012 but was injured last year-the youngest of this group
-
I'm probably the biggest advocate of OL and offense on this board, but even I recognize that 9/10 of this offseason needs to be defense.
Now that the Center position is locked up, the only real addition I want to see on offense is a mid/late round draft pick (i.e. McCarron in the 4th).
A potential field stretcher at WR (although this is low priority) would be nice. So, too, would a change-of-pace RB who can hit the homerun. Maybe a promising backup OG/C late.
Right now, however, I think it should be DT/DE/LB/S until there aren't other options. And if Peanut leaves, add CB to that list.
Your positions are correct for drafting in the 1st 4 rounds but after that , I wouldnt have any problem if in the next 3 spots we took a QB,RB and TE. The key to all speculation is who we sign in FAgency,which is a week away.
-
Still think we have the money for Bennett... I doubt he gets paid like a top 5 DE. Looking at the top 5 paid DEs, Chris Long is 5th on that list, in his first year his cap hit was 8.5. Long was a year younger and at least sack wise (which isn't everything) was the more productive player.
I think with the cap inflation the Bears can get him for around that same figure, and perhaps a little less.
I looked at all the DEs in the league and I think with his ability he will be anywhere from 6.5 to 8.5. Where the problem comes in is if one teams thinks he is worth the top end of that range, which I think will price him out of our budget.
-
Didnt know where to put this, so just went new.
Orakapo has been tagged as well as Hardy earlier.
That leaves Bennett
Houston
Johnson
as top level DEs that are left.
I suspect they all get greater offers than we will suspect.
SO we should target a FA of lesser valve or resign Wootten and grab one in the draft.
We have to resign a couple of our own FAs and then fill in with some cheaper FAs because the draft will only bring us probably one quality recruit to start.
-
Fair enough people, I just think he has a ton of talent and if anyone can get it out of him it should be Marc Trestman. HE should be calling the Bears and begging to work with Marc.
I think we WILL draft a QB so having 4 QBs is a luxury.
-
Depending on how the Bears see Rosario as a pass catcher I'm on board for bringing in another TE.
Of course it shouldn't come at the sacrifice of the D but that should be a given.
A cheap FA or late round still gives us many spots to fill defense
-
The why not is because that same thing can be said about actual positions of need.
Why not add another DT, DE, LB, S? Or for that matter, your other thread about RBs too. A good backup RB is WAY more important than a 3rd TE. Same goes for a 3rd player at just about any position. I'd much rather see a 3rd QB than a 3rd TE.
The simple fact is, another TE is a luxury the Bears cannot afford for more the barest of minimums.
you make a good point but I dont consider Rosario a #2, he would be my 3. A two TE set with another good passing option would add a lot to our developing offense. I say all of this with the thought that we resign Melton, Ratliff, and possibly Wootten.
-
Call me crazy but if McCown isn't back I'd like to see them take a shot at Josh Freeman and then perhaps take a guy in the 5th or 6th, namely I like Jeff Mathews out of Cornell.
Ok I will, I think we bring back Palmer as our experienced vet and draft a guy to work with. If Freeman had anything going for him he would have least had shown something in his stint in Minn.
-
I think the possiblity exists but with a deeper draft, teams wont be paying so much to move up.
I think Melton does come back on a incentive laden contract. We need the depth and his potential
We will be bringing in a QB prospect because I dont think Josh takes the money we offer.
I think McCellin is a better LB than DE but wont be playing much. Will be cut after this year.
-
1. Bennett
2. Rosario
3. Who cares
The Bears don't need to waste time/money/picks on another TE. Bennett will be in on 99% of plays anyway. The other few plays go to a guy like Rosario, who has the resume to be a suitable backup, and serves as a good blocker when needed.
The Bears have more important holes at other positions to worry about a 3rd TE.
Its not a priority but think we fill that spot some where, why not add some one that can make a two TE set more of a danger,Britton filled that role last year as a blocker. A late round pick will not be starting who ever we pick.
-
Forte has been a very good player for us but will be 29 during this football season. RBs start to hit the wall once they hit 1500 carries and Matt is at 1506, with 341 receptions.
I think they start to take some of the carries away as they try to get two more years out from him and diversify the offense a little more in its second year.
I dont think we go after anybody in FA, we will cut Bush(to much money).
We have Ford, and will remain one of our backups but think we draft a compliment player to Forte.
I think it will only be a 6th round type that will be able to be a backup RB and also play some slot WR.
If Thomas/Ore or Archer/KS last until the 6th round, we will make that selection to add speed and another dimension to our offense.
other late round possibilities
McKinnon/GS- has some speed and was a productive college RB
Perkins/MSU- has some speed and can catch the ball out of backfield
Josey/Miso- some speed, and was a productive player on a high end offense in college
-
We still have a spot to fill as an effective TE in our #2 Slot
Options in FAgency: Jeff Cumberland/Jets- young with upside
Garrett Graham/Hou- young and can catch the ball
Quarlles/GB--young has shown some upside
Draft: C.J. Fiedorowicz/Iowa- I think our first 3 picks will all be defense, but from the 4th on anything goes
Rodgers/Cal- good athlete,speed, good upside
Grimble/USC- good athlete, can catch the ball, good upside,speed
Lynch/Geo-can block and shown he can catch the ball
Gilmore/CS-impressed at Senoir Bowl- I think we draft him in 5th if we dont get a FA
-
I think Emery is not going to be willing to spend the money on our backup. McCown probably gets a 2 year 4 to 5 mil and is to rich for Bears.Some one drafting a rookie QB will pay to get insurance.
teams for McCown: TB, they could use a good backup with Glennon still developing on the job, plenty of cap space, Lovie throws a dig to the Bears organisation, closer to home
Jacksonville,they will draft a QB and Josh would be a good fall back if the rookie needs time to grow, closer to home,plrnty of cap space
FA options: I think Jordon Palmer comes back on a vet min deal
AND we draft a developmental QB
4th round and below; A.J. McCarren/Ala
Aaron Murray/Geo
Logan Thomas/VT
Brett Smith/Wyo
Fales/SJS
Wennings/BS
I think we end up with Murray in 5th or Wennings is 6th
-
Perfect no-risk signing. Reportedly he was healthy by the end of the season so he will have a full offseason to workout and learn the new defense.
We need to find a lot of min salary guys, so we can at least make a couple of pricey moves in FAgengy.
-
So I was checking out the depth chart and stumbled upon WR Chris Williams...I thought to myself who???
Found out he signed back on December 26th, went back in the archives and found that we barely even talked about this kids signing....Here's the thread http://www.talkbears.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9681 .... He basically got lost in the shuffle here.
What I saw when I looked him up pleased me. Dude ran a 4.28 with a 1.44 10 yard split. Dri Archer, a guy who was brought up here ran a 4.26 with a 1.46 10 yard split, so this cat is a bit more explosive.
He never caught on in the NFL, so he went to Canada and all he did there was have 6 returns for touchdowns, a CFL record.
Could this guy be our next "Canadian sensation"(not canadian, but you know what I mean) and replace Hester as our return man?
Cool, we may be able to be in a good place yet.
-
For the most part, that's fair. I like neither how the team nor Urlacher went at it, but I put the onus on the team. Bargaining happens the way you laid things out. One high, one low. If the team had budged just a bit, we would have gotten to see Urlacher play one/two more season(s), and everything would have been well. I know Connor hard-balled at that time and ended up being accurate, but would it have really killed the Bears to budge or at least tell him that was all they could offer? That's what upset Urlacher. I think it would have been better, and I said so at the time, for the Bears to say, "Sure, Brian, how about 1 year for $2.5M?" I don't know how much his presence would have impacted the team last year, but it would definitely have been positive.
BTW, you and I both know it's conjecture to say how many games he would have played. The previous three seasons he played 12, 16, and 16 games, respectively. And all accounts were that he was healthy during the '12 season, and his stats were actually getting better as the season progressed. This has been noted many times before on this board. Hamstring injuries are just fluky like that; one never knows when they'll happen. Other than the 2009 wrist thing that none of us believed would last the entire season, Urlacher was on the field every Sunday. Period. I think that's why it's very likely he would have been on the field for most of the games in 2013 if he had been signed.
Actually the biggest problem was his knee injury, and your right no one can be accurate with number of games played, but with such a lousy line in front of him, I suspect he would have missed more games due to his abuse by lineman reaching him.
-
Didn't really wanna make a new thread for this....
Martellus BennettVerified account
@MartysaurusRex
Free agency is coming up @mosesbread72 remember this childhood photo. Mmmm Chicago is calling you. pic.twitter.com/AsIDEpw8tZ
Yup that's my boy MartyB bringing up an old school pic of his bro in a Chicago jersey.
I think the Bears make an offer similar to the price you mentioned in a different thread. Will have to see if someone wants to pay him big bucks. Seattle released Red Bryant, maybe we can add him for a song.
-
Brad Biggs @BradBiggs 3m
#Bears have re-signed C Roberto Garza to a 1-year contract.
Garza wasn't bad at all last year, it certainly helped him to have competent guards on both sides of him, so I'm cool with this. With Garza and Boggs re signed I can't imagine they draft a center now.
Deal is for 1.5M, not sure if its all cap money or what, I'm sure it will get broke down later
I still think in 5th thur 6th round picks we could be adding one. I read where Ikard has ties to Kromer. Friends with his son, and has talked to him about being drafted. 5th or 6th. Put him on the practice squad and let him learn being around Garza.
-
Quality depth I reckon.
Just means we probably wont be drafting one. One backup spot set.
mock drafts-ongoing list
in Bearstalk
Posted
Here is the lasted Mock draft from GBND site that are run by ex scouts.
http://www.gbnreport.com/3-roundprojection.html
This isnt the most mass information type site like a Walters, or Draft Tex, but do like what they have to say.