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Call me crazy but if McCown isn't back I'd like to see them take a shot at Josh Freeman and then perhaps take a guy in the 5th or 6th, namely I like Jeff Mathews out of Cornell.
Ok I will, I think we bring back Palmer as our experienced vet and draft a guy to work with. If Freeman had anything going for him he would have least had shown something in his stint in Minn.
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I think the possiblity exists but with a deeper draft, teams wont be paying so much to move up.
I think Melton does come back on a incentive laden contract. We need the depth and his potential
We will be bringing in a QB prospect because I dont think Josh takes the money we offer.
I think McCellin is a better LB than DE but wont be playing much. Will be cut after this year.
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1. Bennett
2. Rosario
3. Who cares
The Bears don't need to waste time/money/picks on another TE. Bennett will be in on 99% of plays anyway. The other few plays go to a guy like Rosario, who has the resume to be a suitable backup, and serves as a good blocker when needed.
The Bears have more important holes at other positions to worry about a 3rd TE.
Its not a priority but think we fill that spot some where, why not add some one that can make a two TE set more of a danger,Britton filled that role last year as a blocker. A late round pick will not be starting who ever we pick.
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Forte has been a very good player for us but will be 29 during this football season. RBs start to hit the wall once they hit 1500 carries and Matt is at 1506, with 341 receptions.
I think they start to take some of the carries away as they try to get two more years out from him and diversify the offense a little more in its second year.
I dont think we go after anybody in FA, we will cut Bush(to much money).
We have Ford, and will remain one of our backups but think we draft a compliment player to Forte.
I think it will only be a 6th round type that will be able to be a backup RB and also play some slot WR.
If Thomas/Ore or Archer/KS last until the 6th round, we will make that selection to add speed and another dimension to our offense.
other late round possibilities
McKinnon/GS- has some speed and was a productive college RB
Perkins/MSU- has some speed and can catch the ball out of backfield
Josey/Miso- some speed, and was a productive player on a high end offense in college
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We still have a spot to fill as an effective TE in our #2 Slot
Options in FAgency: Jeff Cumberland/Jets- young with upside
Garrett Graham/Hou- young and can catch the ball
Quarlles/GB--young has shown some upside
Draft: C.J. Fiedorowicz/Iowa- I think our first 3 picks will all be defense, but from the 4th on anything goes
Rodgers/Cal- good athlete,speed, good upside
Grimble/USC- good athlete, can catch the ball, good upside,speed
Lynch/Geo-can block and shown he can catch the ball
Gilmore/CS-impressed at Senoir Bowl- I think we draft him in 5th if we dont get a FA
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I think Emery is not going to be willing to spend the money on our backup. McCown probably gets a 2 year 4 to 5 mil and is to rich for Bears.Some one drafting a rookie QB will pay to get insurance.
teams for McCown: TB, they could use a good backup with Glennon still developing on the job, plenty of cap space, Lovie throws a dig to the Bears organisation, closer to home
Jacksonville,they will draft a QB and Josh would be a good fall back if the rookie needs time to grow, closer to home,plrnty of cap space
FA options: I think Jordon Palmer comes back on a vet min deal
AND we draft a developmental QB
4th round and below; A.J. McCarren/Ala
Aaron Murray/Geo
Logan Thomas/VT
Brett Smith/Wyo
Fales/SJS
Wennings/BS
I think we end up with Murray in 5th or Wennings is 6th
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Perfect no-risk signing. Reportedly he was healthy by the end of the season so he will have a full offseason to workout and learn the new defense.
We need to find a lot of min salary guys, so we can at least make a couple of pricey moves in FAgengy.
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So I was checking out the depth chart and stumbled upon WR Chris Williams...I thought to myself who???
Found out he signed back on December 26th, went back in the archives and found that we barely even talked about this kids signing....Here's the thread http://www.talkbears.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9681 .... He basically got lost in the shuffle here.
What I saw when I looked him up pleased me. Dude ran a 4.28 with a 1.44 10 yard split. Dri Archer, a guy who was brought up here ran a 4.26 with a 1.46 10 yard split, so this cat is a bit more explosive.
He never caught on in the NFL, so he went to Canada and all he did there was have 6 returns for touchdowns, a CFL record.
Could this guy be our next "Canadian sensation"(not canadian, but you know what I mean) and replace Hester as our return man?
Cool, we may be able to be in a good place yet.
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For the most part, that's fair. I like neither how the team nor Urlacher went at it, but I put the onus on the team. Bargaining happens the way you laid things out. One high, one low. If the team had budged just a bit, we would have gotten to see Urlacher play one/two more season(s), and everything would have been well. I know Connor hard-balled at that time and ended up being accurate, but would it have really killed the Bears to budge or at least tell him that was all they could offer? That's what upset Urlacher. I think it would have been better, and I said so at the time, for the Bears to say, "Sure, Brian, how about 1 year for $2.5M?" I don't know how much his presence would have impacted the team last year, but it would definitely have been positive.
BTW, you and I both know it's conjecture to say how many games he would have played. The previous three seasons he played 12, 16, and 16 games, respectively. And all accounts were that he was healthy during the '12 season, and his stats were actually getting better as the season progressed. This has been noted many times before on this board. Hamstring injuries are just fluky like that; one never knows when they'll happen. Other than the 2009 wrist thing that none of us believed would last the entire season, Urlacher was on the field every Sunday. Period. I think that's why it's very likely he would have been on the field for most of the games in 2013 if he had been signed.
Actually the biggest problem was his knee injury, and your right no one can be accurate with number of games played, but with such a lousy line in front of him, I suspect he would have missed more games due to his abuse by lineman reaching him.
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Didn't really wanna make a new thread for this....
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Free agency is coming up @mosesbread72 remember this childhood photo. Mmmm Chicago is calling you. pic.twitter.com/AsIDEpw8tZ
Yup that's my boy MartyB bringing up an old school pic of his bro in a Chicago jersey.
I think the Bears make an offer similar to the price you mentioned in a different thread. Will have to see if someone wants to pay him big bucks. Seattle released Red Bryant, maybe we can add him for a song.
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#Bears have re-signed C Roberto Garza to a 1-year contract.
Garza wasn't bad at all last year, it certainly helped him to have competent guards on both sides of him, so I'm cool with this. With Garza and Boggs re signed I can't imagine they draft a center now.
Deal is for 1.5M, not sure if its all cap money or what, I'm sure it will get broke down later
I still think in 5th thur 6th round picks we could be adding one. I read where Ikard has ties to Kromer. Friends with his son, and has talked to him about being drafted. 5th or 6th. Put him on the practice squad and let him learn being around Garza.
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Quality depth I reckon.
Just means we probably wont be drafting one. One backup spot set.
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Thanks....
Honestly, and I know not everyone will agree, I think Bostic should get another chance behind an improved DL.
He's gonna get paid too, I think that money would be better spent on said DL.
Just need to check out all options, Bostic wont be playing the middle again unless we get lots of injuries. He is set to take Lances job after this year. Greens will end up just being a usable backup. I see us bringing in or drafting our new MLB. I read where Underwood played for our new LBers coach Paul P.(didnt want to misspell it)
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A few players in FAgency I think we should look at that would add to the team, not top players.
Dexter McCluster/RB/WR - I think he would add something to our offense we havent seen yet.
Matt Shawnessey/DE-already mentioned by a member, think he is under the radar player that could help lots.Could be gotten instead of Wootton
Desmon Bishop/MLB- talented player injured last year
Cory Graham/CB- at 29 still has some life in him
Malcom Jenkins- young and upcoming
Garret Grahan/TE- would be a good complement to Bennett
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Even after his "great" combine WF has Kareem Martin going in the 4th...I don't get it, what am I missing here with him...I know the draft is supposed to be one of the deepest in years but still, if the Bears got him in the 3rd that'd be phenomenal.
What your missing is most mock drafts are not accurate, just something to play with waiting for football to happen.Because of the combine he probably moved up one round. I suspect a 2nd or third.
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How far would you be willing to trade up for the right talent?
Suppose the top of the draft goes QB crazy. Four of the top five teams need a QB. The Rams like their QB, their coach has a relationship with a stud player’s Dad (Bruce/Jake Matthews), and they need playmakers.
Atlanta sits at pick 6, and one of their team needs is DL.
1. HOU – Bridgewater
2. STL – Matthews
3. JAX – Manziel
4. CLE – Bortles
5. OAK
On the Value Chart, the #5 pick is 1,700 points and the #14 is 1,100 points. The Bears’ second rounder is worth 390.
Given that Oakland has notoriously bad front office decisions, let’s say they’re willing to trade their first rounder for the Bears’ first and second.
Do you make the move if Clowney is sitting there at #5?
You only make that move if your one or two players away. We are 7 players away right now. Plus no one will let you move up to 5 for just a 2nd rounder, no way in hell does that happen. At least 2nd, 3rd and 6th
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If Dee Ford slips out of the first round, the Bears should immediately rally their resources and try to trade up into the top of the second to get him.
Imagine a draft that starts out:
1) Donald
2) Ford
Holy hell.
He is probably a different type of player but he makes me think of SMC
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Did a mock on fanspeak that looks very unrealistic but would be just fantastic..... I'll wait till tomorrow or so to try to find a more realistic post combine draft.
Sign Whitner, Ratliff, Wootton, Bowman, Hayden and Matt Shaughnessy(under the radar signing),
Draft
1R- Aaron Donald DT Pitt- Until we sign Melton or another 3T DT this will be my pick.
2R- Stanley Jean Baptiste CB Nebraska- Big, lanky, adequate speed, huge hops, takes over for Tillman
3R- Kareem Martin DE North Carolina- Here's where it gets unrealistic, probably no way Martin drops to the 3rd but hey I'll take what they give me. He competes with Wootton.
4R- Ed Reynolds FS Stanford- Another guy who probably doesn't fall this far. Competes and probably beats Conte for the FS spot next to Whitner
5R- Deandre Coleman DT Cal- 6'5" , long arms, could be used as a Red Bryant type DE.
6R- Jordan Navjar TE Baylor- Big 6'6" TE who was recruited by TE U but transferred to be more playing time, ironically was under utilized at Baylor too
6R- Tyler Gafney RB Stanford- Bruising back who actually ran a 4.49. He takes over for Bush.
That's just ballin right there.
Battles everywhere.
DE has Wootton, Shauhgnessy, Martin, Lane, Bass, and Washington. Could get creative and use Coleman outside too.
DT has Donald at the 3 then Paea, Ratliff, and Coleman competing for the 1....Could also add in Collins for more depth
Whitner locks in at SS while Reynolds and Conte compete at FS.
Jennings-Bapitiste-Frey-Bowman-Hayden is solid.
I would love that draft and also the Matt S. signing, spot on.
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How about having Wooton, Peppers, AND Ealy? I doubt that will happen, but we are so damn thin at all of our defensive positions, by draft time, we could have announced we will bring those to back to start and still take a DE at #14.
Donald looks like he would be a great fit for our defense.
Brings the production, health, consistency, and fire that would help our defense alot.
So who will want him. There is always Lovie sticking his nose in there, but they have more glaring needs that another DT right now and they have G. McCoy to play the 3 T
Dallas most definitely will be after him but they pick after us.
Otherwise your normal good drafting teams will find a place for him. GB,SF,Seattle,and NE.
So we should get the first shot at taking him and good luck to us. I think he is the man.
If we cut Peppers,DE will become more of a need, but I think Donald should not be passed up. We can still get Crighton,Smith, or Martin in the next couple of rounds.
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Both 1 year deals.
Not surprised, keep hearing good things about Boggs and I think he's a quality backup for Garza(if they resign him)
Martin's a real goor special teams player, perhaps has an outside chance at putting up a fight at either safety position.
Them keeping Boggs for one more year probably says he may develop into our next starting OC.
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Ya beat me to it ASHKUM.
But ya Martin helped himself a lot, he was expected to run in the 4.9s so I wasn't a fan, but after running that 4.78/1.53 I really like him. I kinda discarded him after seeing that projected 4.9 number so I'm gonna have to do a little more research on him to see why he's not viewed as an early pick.
Back to Donald though, my goodness....I love Melton, but at this point I hope we pass and Donald is there cuz the dudes a beast. Spend Meltons money on a DE.
Martin is not only fast had 82 tackles-21.5 TFL-12.5 sacks, very similar in numbers to Clownery
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That it is, and you're right, it's hard for a rookie to come in and take command in year 1. Bostic could develop into that guy in year 2.
Why would it be different if they draft Mosely, whom you've touted quite a bit,
Just give me the most talented player in the draft, if they're considered a "leader" well I guess that's a plus.
Its not if we draft Mosely, but he may be better at handling the Pros than Bostic was, hard to say, but he is the top rated MLB, if we choose to go that way.Every player has different paths to follow,but I think we need some leadership on our defense whether you think it matters or not.
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I don't think Archer goes higher than the 4th, I've never even heard of him before today (CBS doesn't even have him listed).....Last year Onterio McCaleb posted the highest 40 time, albeit a bit slower than Archer at 4.34, and he wasn't even drafted.
Don't hate the idea of a RB though.
Back to the DL....
Donald had the 2nd most bench reps among all DLmen with 35, some scrub had 36. Jernigan had 27. So Jernigan is just an inch taller than Donald, but Donald has longer arms and is stronger.
Ealy had 1 more rep than Clowney but both were "underwhelming" with 21 and 22 respectively. Last year the average was 24 for DLmen.
Kareem Martin also had 22 reps.
Critchton had 24.
Michael Sam had as many reps as Jay Cutler had, 17.
Jeffcoat had just 1 more than Sam
Murphy had 1 more than Jeffcoat.
Hageman had 32 which is impressive with those long arms.
Dee Ford, who claims he's better than Clowney, didn't participate.
One thing we know for sure is Emery likes athletic players, so that puts Donald in the front along with Hageman.
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I'm sad no one took the bait =(
If its Bostic? way to many things to learn to become a team leader his first year. Urlacher didnt assume that role for a few years.
TEs-#1 Bennett,#2 ?,#3 Rosario
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you make a good point but I dont consider Rosario a #2, he would be my 3. A two TE set with another good passing option would add a lot to our developing offense. I say all of this with the thought that we resign Melton, Ratliff, and possibly Wootten.