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The GB player made a great play on Peppers. That's it. Emery talked about Peppers and said that Peppers had an 8-8 season just like everyone else. I think it would be wise to bring Pepp back but he'll need to restructure and hopefully he will. Is Wooten under contract? He is, right? I don't think we can afford to be replacing an entire line, I'd think we'd start by replacing 2 players on the d-line and adding depth.
A lot of the defensive needs will be determined based upon what Phil/Trest decide the strategy will be going forward. It sounds like Shea/Bostic are both going to move outside which might mean Briggs is on his way out. That said, Emery was pretty damn complimenting of Briggs and Briggs could be a pretty good player as one of the two interior LB's in a 3-4. I'd really love Peanut back as our safety. Dline has to be fixed and DT has to be the biggest priority. I think we will sign Bennett's brother and then focus heavily on the tackle / lb position in the draft. Would be curious if we make a run at Byrd for safety as clearly we have to make some changes their as well.
Paying Cutler will limit us on many big signings. One pass rusher and will go after the 1 mil. contracts to add the depth. The draft will be key, have to get 3 defensive starters out of it. I think with SMC going to OLB and Bostic also, Briggs may be on his way out. He will only cost 1 mil. against the cap. I think it is time to get rid of our old crap and bring in some new crap to get our dandruff up.
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2 years too late, but better late than never. Just hope its in a 3-4 scheme.
At least they see what we see and will adjust whether it works out, time will tell.
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Did you see the defense this year? It's not that it's coming out of people's pay checks, it's about having money to improve the team. The quality of quarterback play by Jay Cutler at 30 years old does not warrant 1/6th of the teams cap space for the next 7 years.
If we didnt give him that someone else would have. I dont think it is worth it, but the only QBs in the league earning there money are Brady,Brees and Manning. All the rest are overpaid. They didnt screw around and now know what they have to work with and to go after who they want. This is the modern NFL, all we can hope for now is Trestman gets Jays shit together and we can talk about playoff games instead of opinions on Jay.,
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I couldn't agree more Pix.
I heard it was guaranteed at 54. So for the 1st 3 years we pay 18 per and after that it is a play per year, so his cost is gone. I like the fact they addressed who they wanted and got it done. Now they know what they have to spend and will judge their signing accordingly. It aint my money, and it doesnt really matter what I or you guys think, the only one that matters is Trestman wanted him. I trust him.
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Reports say Jeff Redford will be o cord and Frazier will run the D and JA could join to run the personnel dept lol
good luck with all of that
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I'm with most here. Nix or HHCD would be great. I think nix could fit into either a 3-4 or 4-3. I haven't ever seen his motor questioned. Definitely a play maker IMO
Since your a ND guy,they have two gems this year in Nix and Truitt. Would not mine if we had either on team next year.
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I agree. Grab nix in 1st and sign Byrd. That would be a huge step forward
Those would be good additions. When we have a good defense we always have had good pressure from the front.I am for drafting HaHa and grabing a NT in the second round. McCullens from Tenn is a huge ,man.. Then getting a pass rushing DE,in free agency, like Johnson, Bennett, Jones, Orakpo, there are several out there we can get for the money we save from cutting Peppers. I think we need a team leader like Troy P.,or Reed were as great safeties, and would get that with HaHa.
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I have to admit two things: One, I don't know a lot about the 3-4 defense and secondly, I'm intrigued by the thought of it.
What I do believe is that Wooten and Peppers are big and athletic enough to play 3-4 ends while I have reservations about Paea playing any role at his size / athletic ability. That's not saying he can't add girth to play the nose. I like McClellin and Bostic on the outside utilizing their speed Briggs and Williams look to be a fit in the middle, as they are surer tacklers and range and explosiveness not what it used to be. Not sure Green fits in this scheme unless he can move inside.
In the secondary, I would really love to see Tillman move to safety or let him walk. He is simply a funnel corner and a liability if left alone. He's still a great tackler and very instinctive. I could multiple strips and picks for him next year. I like us to sign Jennings. He is a really good cover corner. Imagine the confidence he would have knowing Peanut has his back. I may be alone here but I think Conte is redeemable next year. He was better in 2012. Was his regression due to scheme and coaching or ability. Wright can go. He simply doesn't make enough plays for his aggressive nature.
I also think Tillman would make a good FS, the problem is he has stated no desire to play safety and someone will be willing to pay him more money than we will. IF Lovie gets the TB , I see him going there. Let someone over pay for his services and move on.
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I've read several different reports that place him anywhere from 1-3. I contemplated moving him to rd 2 and going DB in the 3rd.
A few more observations to add:
Jason is spot on HaHa in the first and the NT would be there in the second.
Switching to the 3-4 would give us the opportunity to still get some mileage out of SCM.
Grab Arthur Jones if we switch to a 3-4 as a DE.
I think C. Washington comes more in the picture in a 3-4, he is built for that OLB in that scheme.
I think one of the things the defense was lacking in there spiral down the tubes was defense team leaders.
I think from what I read HaHa would become one of our leaders in the Troy P. mode.
I think Briggs was a sorry leader. The last two games, our defensive team leader failed to address the media after the games
and bailed on the rest of the team in that role. So if we switch to a 3-4, he doesnt really fit in to that scheme, so I would have
no problem, letting him go. 1 mil in dead cap space and a savings of 5.5 mil in cap space. Plus will be his last year of contract
and you know he will be pining for an extension. Go out and grab Orakpo to fill his spot.
In the 3-4 we have Cornelius Washington and Orakpo as OLB, Bostic and SCM at ILB, McCullens and Ratliff at NT, and Arthur Jones and Paea at DE.
In the backfield we have HaHa, and will have to completely rebuild the rest with the draft and FAs. We have almost have nobody that can play that scheme left on the roster.
These changes will not make us a great defense but go along way from being as bad as we were in 2013
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Great write-up by the same guy who did the offensive lineman grades earlier in the year.
http://www.chicitysports.com/2013/12/30/th...mock-offseason/
I dont agree with everybody he has on there, but well thought out. He starts out wrong with the money, we save 9 mil, if we cut Peppers, he has it as 15 mil.
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Move to 3-4.
Cut Peppers, Melton walks, Peanut stays for one more year, SMC stays on contract but gets transferred to turf maintenance, Jennings gets his $, Melton stays for a lessened contract, Conte is tarred and feathered. All defense since Tucker will probably get a second chance.
1. HaHa Clinton-Dix, FS, Bama - An absolute stud who starts day one
2. Darqueze Denard, CB, Michigan St - Mr. No fly zone learns for one year under Peanut.
3. Daniel McCullers, NT, Tennessee - Mountain of a man. Prototype zero technique. Perfect fit.
4. Dominique Easley, DE, Florida - He probably doesn't last this long, but maybe the ACL (two tears) scares teams off?
5. Jackson Jeffcoat, DE, Texas - Pedigree. Good 3-4 DE. Great value here and lots of potential.
6. Hakeem Smith, SS, Louisville - Older draft pick, maturity and solid tackling go hand in hand. Tough defender.
6. Tom Hornsey, P, Memphis - Punters are defensive, and it's time for a punter that doesn't suck.
Would love that draft, but from what I looked at the NT could be a late first round or early 2nd pick, probably doesnt make it to the 3rd.
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“Jay will be back. Jay will be back. So all these stories for the offseason, you guys can put that at the bottom,” Marshall said.
He reiterates those statements on the Sports Sunday post game show.
Don't know if it's just a "buddy statement" or if he knows this as a fact. Both the locker room quote and the post game show quote sounded pretty confident.
Marshall is not part of the brain trust at Halas hall, just a buddy routing for a buddy.
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At this point, I'm still on the fence about Cutler, but mainly due to the price vs performance/durability. Can we afford what he is going to ask for with all the needs on the defense? I have to believe he comes back because he didn't play bad, but it has to come at a price that makes sense.
I think the smart thing to do is tag him and it gives us one more year to evaluate him. I sure dont want to go back to QB hell, and it becomes more of a risk if we let him go for that to happen.
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The Cutler debate will go on all off season and I am already tired of it. The fact is if we keep him, Im ok with it, or if we draft a high QB prospect and keep McCown,Im ok with that. We have a long way to go with the defense and probably need to spend our high picks on defense.
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Yeah, depends on final SOS, and we had the worst going into this week of all the 8-8 teams. However, it fluctuates based on the current records so we could slip to 16, but it looks like 14 right now.
If we are picking 15 we have a chance to get Nix,HaHa, or Hagemen.As of now I think we need a team leader so we grab the Safety and grab a DT in the second round.
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I would think Ward would be cheaper than Byrd, we will probably have to go that route.
I think we need to sign Bennett/DE and TJ Ward for free agency and then we still need to draft a S,DT and MLB. Jason was on track with his draft proposal.
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Jarius Byrd or TJ Ward would be real nice.
I would think Ward would be cheaper than Byrd, we will probably have to go that route.
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They need two new safeties, a new corner, a new LB'er, 3 new defensive lineman, a center, and another pass catching TE. Good luck.
Your spot on
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F THE PACKERS!!!!
F THE PACKERS!!!
F THE PACKERS!!!!
I f*&king hate them more than anything on this earth other than true evil. Hate. Them. I'm not talking terrorists, rapists, murderers, One Direction, etc... I'm talking about general life things that make you ill. They make me ill. They've made me ill for what seems like a decade now. Enough.
F them.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow , I thought you were the only nice guy on here, cool. Its not so much the team as there fans SUCK. For what ever reason I think we win today. I think the fact we got embarrassed last week, everybody has been focused this week. The key to the game will as usually be TOs. I think a rusty Rodgers will throw a couple, and we hold there running attack to under 130 yards today. Cant believe I think a 130 yards is a good day for a defense, but for ours its being granted sainthood.I think the score will be 27-16 and we winnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. Always an optimist.
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If my focus is purely on fixing the D...
I keep Peppers at a lower contract. Melton probably leaves. SMC stays because of the contract. Tillman and Jennings stay. Conte gets escorted out of Halas Hall by security.
Move to the 3-4.
1. HaHa Clinton-Dix, FS, Bama - An absolute stud who starts day one
2. Anthony Johnson, DT, LSU - Can get after the passer and plays tough. Starts day one if Melton is let go.
3. Shayne Skov, ILB, Stanford - Smart player who is always in the right spot. A beast.
Peppers - Paea - Johnson (Collins, Ratcliff back ups)
SMC - Briggs - Skov - Bostic. (Greene is rotational, and Briggs gets to choose where he feels best)
Peanut - HHCD - Wright - Jennings (Bowman back up)
Kind of soft up front, but tons of athleticism. Blitzes from everywhere. Extra LB helps erase the over pursuit problems from this year. Maximizes SMC's ability. Allows for lots of zone blitzing from a variety of locations.
I would love a stud S, we need a need team leader on D and that would do it. Also I like the idea of a tackle machine at MLB, I think Skov would be that and then move Bostic to his natural position Briggs holds now.
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A personal matter for a home game against the Packers which will determine whether we get in the playoffs? That better be one hell of a personal matter!
His dog died, give him a break.
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In one regard I get it because he's a low cost player but ???
Has he been that important to sign now rather than later? I for one would have preferred the team kept Clutts.
I would have also rather have Clutts, but it doesnt matter now.
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The defense has had posts all over the site, so I would like to know exactly what you would do?
There are a lot of smart people on here, this will be my opinion.(do me a favor and dont spend 200 mil )(Anybody can list a bunch of good players, but need to fit in our cap)
First of all I dont care for Tucker, but think he will get one more year to prove himself when he gets total control of the defense.(didnt have it this year)
Players still here: Briggs,Conte,Peppers,Paea,Bostic, Greene,Frey,Washington,McCellen----------I think Peppers,and SCM are gone
Players we resign: I think we bring back Jennings, Bowman,Anderson,Collins, Radliff ,Bass
We pick up in FAgency: Bennet is signed to replace Peppers, also a CB and S (have yet to go over FAs)
Draft: 1st round: Truitt/ND/DE-DT I think he will be slotted around our pick and can play either position depending on how our line fallls into place.
2nd round: Verrit/TCU/CB He will fit into our defense
3rd round: Swanson/Ark/OC We need to upgrade the OL every year
4th round: Ward/NIU/ S Can become a playmaker
5th round: Fales/SJS/QB A project for Trestman to work with
6th round: Shelton/Wash/DT Adds some beef to our rotation
6th round: Byndom/T/CB Had some size and speed, had a better 2012 season
AS FAR AS THE DRAFT GOES SLOTS WILL CHANGE AS FAR AS THE PLAYERS LISTED(WHAT I WENT WITH AT THIS TIME)
Conclusion: We cant rebuild the defense in one year. We will still be bad but will see improvement and have some young players to develop
DBs-Frey,Jennings,Bowman,Conte,Ward,Byndom,FA signing, FA signing
LBers-Anderson, Bostic, Briggs,Greene, a couple of FA signing to fill the roster
DL-Bennett,Paea,Truitt,Wooten,Bass,Shelton,Radliff,Collins,Washington
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Yikes if that's the 4 you project as starters. Zero confidence even fully healthy.
I think Collins played well until he was hurt, will be a cheap addition.
Wooten is an average player, would you rather play Shea?
I think maybe we bring in Bennett at DE, a draftedl DE ad DT in the new rotation.
The facts are we wont have the money to bring in 10 new defensive players of quality, some cheaper alternatives will still be here. It will take 2 to 3 years to rebuild the defense.

Making sense of the Cutler deal
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You nailed it, they keep Tucker to have a good excuse for being bad. give me a break.