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Didn't really wanna make a new thread for this....
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Free agency is coming up @mosesbread72 remember this childhood photo. Mmmm Chicago is calling you. pic.twitter.com/AsIDEpw8tZ
Yup that's my boy MartyB bringing up an old school pic of his bro in a Chicago jersey.
I think the Bears make an offer similar to the price you mentioned in a different thread. Will have to see if someone wants to pay him big bucks. Seattle released Red Bryant, maybe we can add him for a song.
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Brad Biggs @BradBiggs 3m
#Bears have re-signed C Roberto Garza to a 1-year contract.
Garza wasn't bad at all last year, it certainly helped him to have competent guards on both sides of him, so I'm cool with this. With Garza and Boggs re signed I can't imagine they draft a center now.
Deal is for 1.5M, not sure if its all cap money or what, I'm sure it will get broke down later
I still think in 5th thur 6th round picks we could be adding one. I read where Ikard has ties to Kromer. Friends with his son, and has talked to him about being drafted. 5th or 6th. Put him on the practice squad and let him learn being around Garza.
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Quality depth I reckon.
Just means we probably wont be drafting one. One backup spot set.
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Thanks....
Honestly, and I know not everyone will agree, I think Bostic should get another chance behind an improved DL.
He's gonna get paid too, I think that money would be better spent on said DL.
Just need to check out all options, Bostic wont be playing the middle again unless we get lots of injuries. He is set to take Lances job after this year. Greens will end up just being a usable backup. I see us bringing in or drafting our new MLB. I read where Underwood played for our new LBers coach Paul P.(didnt want to misspell it)
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A few players in FAgency I think we should look at that would add to the team, not top players.
Dexter McCluster/RB/WR - I think he would add something to our offense we havent seen yet.
Matt Shawnessey/DE-already mentioned by a member, think he is under the radar player that could help lots.Could be gotten instead of Wootton
Desmon Bishop/MLB- talented player injured last year
Cory Graham/CB- at 29 still has some life in him
Malcom Jenkins- young and upcoming
Garret Grahan/TE- would be a good complement to Bennett
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Even after his "great" combine WF has Kareem Martin going in the 4th...I don't get it, what am I missing here with him...I know the draft is supposed to be one of the deepest in years but still, if the Bears got him in the 3rd that'd be phenomenal.
What your missing is most mock drafts are not accurate, just something to play with waiting for football to happen.Because of the combine he probably moved up one round. I suspect a 2nd or third.
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How far would you be willing to trade up for the right talent?
Suppose the top of the draft goes QB crazy. Four of the top five teams need a QB. The Rams like their QB, their coach has a relationship with a stud player’s Dad (Bruce/Jake Matthews), and they need playmakers.
Atlanta sits at pick 6, and one of their team needs is DL.
1. HOU – Bridgewater
2. STL – Matthews
3. JAX – Manziel
4. CLE – Bortles
5. OAK
On the Value Chart, the #5 pick is 1,700 points and the #14 is 1,100 points. The Bears’ second rounder is worth 390.
Given that Oakland has notoriously bad front office decisions, let’s say they’re willing to trade their first rounder for the Bears’ first and second.
Do you make the move if Clowney is sitting there at #5?
You only make that move if your one or two players away. We are 7 players away right now. Plus no one will let you move up to 5 for just a 2nd rounder, no way in hell does that happen. At least 2nd, 3rd and 6th
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If Dee Ford slips out of the first round, the Bears should immediately rally their resources and try to trade up into the top of the second to get him.
Imagine a draft that starts out:
1) Donald
2) Ford
Holy hell.
He is probably a different type of player but he makes me think of SMC
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Did a mock on fanspeak that looks very unrealistic but would be just fantastic..... I'll wait till tomorrow or so to try to find a more realistic post combine draft.
Sign Whitner, Ratliff, Wootton, Bowman, Hayden and Matt Shaughnessy(under the radar signing),
Draft
1R- Aaron Donald DT Pitt- Until we sign Melton or another 3T DT this will be my pick.
2R- Stanley Jean Baptiste CB Nebraska- Big, lanky, adequate speed, huge hops, takes over for Tillman
3R- Kareem Martin DE North Carolina- Here's where it gets unrealistic, probably no way Martin drops to the 3rd but hey I'll take what they give me. He competes with Wootton.
4R- Ed Reynolds FS Stanford- Another guy who probably doesn't fall this far. Competes and probably beats Conte for the FS spot next to Whitner
5R- Deandre Coleman DT Cal- 6'5" , long arms, could be used as a Red Bryant type DE.
6R- Jordan Navjar TE Baylor- Big 6'6" TE who was recruited by TE U but transferred to be more playing time, ironically was under utilized at Baylor too
6R- Tyler Gafney RB Stanford- Bruising back who actually ran a 4.49. He takes over for Bush.
That's just ballin right there.
Battles everywhere.
DE has Wootton, Shauhgnessy, Martin, Lane, Bass, and Washington. Could get creative and use Coleman outside too.
DT has Donald at the 3 then Paea, Ratliff, and Coleman competing for the 1....Could also add in Collins for more depth
Whitner locks in at SS while Reynolds and Conte compete at FS.
Jennings-Bapitiste-Frey-Bowman-Hayden is solid.
I would love that draft and also the Matt S. signing, spot on.
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How about having Wooton, Peppers, AND Ealy? I doubt that will happen, but we are so damn thin at all of our defensive positions, by draft time, we could have announced we will bring those to back to start and still take a DE at #14.
Donald looks like he would be a great fit for our defense.
Brings the production, health, consistency, and fire that would help our defense alot.
So who will want him. There is always Lovie sticking his nose in there, but they have more glaring needs that another DT right now and they have G. McCoy to play the 3 T
Dallas most definitely will be after him but they pick after us.
Otherwise your normal good drafting teams will find a place for him. GB,SF,Seattle,and NE.
So we should get the first shot at taking him and good luck to us. I think he is the man.
If we cut Peppers,DE will become more of a need, but I think Donald should not be passed up. We can still get Crighton,Smith, or Martin in the next couple of rounds.
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Both 1 year deals.
Not surprised, keep hearing good things about Boggs and I think he's a quality backup for Garza(if they resign him)
Martin's a real goor special teams player, perhaps has an outside chance at putting up a fight at either safety position.
Them keeping Boggs for one more year probably says he may develop into our next starting OC.
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Ya beat me to it ASHKUM.
But ya Martin helped himself a lot, he was expected to run in the 4.9s so I wasn't a fan, but after running that 4.78/1.53 I really like him. I kinda discarded him after seeing that projected 4.9 number so I'm gonna have to do a little more research on him to see why he's not viewed as an early pick.
Back to Donald though, my goodness....I love Melton, but at this point I hope we pass and Donald is there cuz the dudes a beast. Spend Meltons money on a DE.
Martin is not only fast had 82 tackles-21.5 TFL-12.5 sacks, very similar in numbers to Clownery
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That it is, and you're right, it's hard for a rookie to come in and take command in year 1. Bostic could develop into that guy in year 2.
Why would it be different if they draft Mosely, whom you've touted quite a bit,
Just give me the most talented player in the draft, if they're considered a "leader" well I guess that's a plus.
Its not if we draft Mosely, but he may be better at handling the Pros than Bostic was, hard to say, but he is the top rated MLB, if we choose to go that way.Every player has different paths to follow,but I think we need some leadership on our defense whether you think it matters or not.
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I don't think Archer goes higher than the 4th, I've never even heard of him before today (CBS doesn't even have him listed).....Last year Onterio McCaleb posted the highest 40 time, albeit a bit slower than Archer at 4.34, and he wasn't even drafted.
Don't hate the idea of a RB though.
Back to the DL....
Donald had the 2nd most bench reps among all DLmen with 35, some scrub had 36. Jernigan had 27. So Jernigan is just an inch taller than Donald, but Donald has longer arms and is stronger.
Ealy had 1 more rep than Clowney but both were "underwhelming" with 21 and 22 respectively. Last year the average was 24 for DLmen.
Kareem Martin also had 22 reps.
Critchton had 24.
Michael Sam had as many reps as Jay Cutler had, 17.
Jeffcoat had just 1 more than Sam
Murphy had 1 more than Jeffcoat.
Hageman had 32 which is impressive with those long arms.
Dee Ford, who claims he's better than Clowney, didn't participate.
One thing we know for sure is Emery likes athletic players, so that puts Donald in the front along with Hageman.
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I'm sad no one took the bait =(
If its Bostic? way to many things to learn to become a team leader his first year. Urlacher didnt assume that role for a few years.
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Not a combine DL thing, but seen where Archer/RB/Kent State run a 4.26 40 time
Im thinking Trestman could find ways to use him in his offense, maybe a 4th rounder? At least take Hester's place on KR
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What about the Michigan kid. He's the more realistic option of being available. Taylor Lewan has been slotted near 14, been putting up nice results at the combine, and is said to have that nastiness. I'd prefer to go defense, but our big investment is Cutty, so maybe they grab him if he is available.
If one of those top players drop, it may be beneficial to trade down and grab several picks for the privilege of our pick.
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If that worked financially and with the cap - I don't care to research - I don't think that's a horrible idea. Peppers is going to get cut anyway, and Briggs is on the backside of his career. There are no guarantees, but Clowney is a ridiculous athlete.
way to expensive for so many spots to fill, but would be the bomb.
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If jake Matthews drops that far, you hope for a trade. Otherwise, I wouldn't mind seeing him drafted. Pure BPA, he's way better than anyone else at 14. That gives the bears a nearly impenetrable OL of Bushrod, Slausson, Garza, Long, Matthews, and it's nasty for years to come.
I would not be upset over that, I think Mathews might end up being the LT with Bushrod moving over the following year.
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I can't find his official measurements, but one article said he was 302 his rookie year so it's probably around there.
Donald gets compared to Geno Atkins a lot....Atkins was 6'1" 293 with 32 inch arms. So Donald is 8 pounds lighter and his arms are 5/8 of an inch longer.
Kyle Williams is another 6'1" pro bowler who had 32 inch arms. He was 299.
So he's a little thinner than those guys but not by much.
I had been comparing him to Dorsey in the past but just found out dude had 35 inch arms at 6'1"
He may not be as good at point of attack as those two, but got a feeling he will be a better pass rusher.
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It's harder to say who ya don't like than who ya do. I wouldn't like Tuitt or Hageman as DEs.
Who we wont be drafting in round 1
QBs- we will be solid at that position for the first time in years
OTs- we will not spend this high of a pick with our line being built last year.
OGs- usually not a first round pick and none rate that high this year
OC- we definitely need one in the works but the best one is only rated as a 2nd rounder this year.
TE-with Bennett being here, I think we tag one this year but wont be this high
WR- possible but not probable, with Marshall,Jefferies an Wilson in the next up status here(maybe as BPA after round 3)
DE- I think our biggest need
DT- will be able to choice the top one at that spot
LB- I think its possible our pick could be Mosley if he is the BPA at the time of the pick, I also think if Mack or Barr drops we could drag that into the BPA spot
S- need, need, need, could very will be our pick,HaHa or Pryor, and would have no problem with those picks
CB-we have the need and could be Gilbert or Dennard if they are there.
I think Emery could surprise us with grabbing someone like Creighton/DE, Bucannon/S,(not rated that high) or Barr or Mack(because they dropped)
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Agreed with everything you said here. Sign both of these guys for cheap and go with a 2nd or 3rd round CB and they should be set with Jennings-Rookie-Frey-Bowman-Hayden. Bowman competes with the rook and Hayden competes with Frey.
Emery stated they want to get younger, so the thought of bringing back all the old guys doesnt seem genuine.I think he is keeping the lines open, with everybody so that is some of his plans fall thru he will have lanes open for some of them guys to come back. I dont buy the Hayden signing just think its a second option. Wooten, Melton are younger players, so them being more of a priority.
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If he's there, and the Bears have a hole at DE, he absolutely should be the pick. If they bring back the guys you said and cut Pep they'd still have a hole. Hell, I wouldn't hate to see him be the pick even if Wootton and a FA DE are brought in because I'm not 100% sold on Wootton yet. Corey could end up being quality depth in the Izzy DE/DT role.
I think as you do they we should load the box and let the best players win the jobs. I think Wooten is signed(you misspelled Wootton) more because he will be cheap, and not because they have great expectations from him. I think the FA we sign and draft pick at that spot will be expected to be the better pass rusher.
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Not so fast. He did say the base defense is a 4-3 but then he added this:
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http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/be...-wide-open.html
“To lock ourselves in and be so narrow-minded that this is what we’re going to be when we don’t have the players to get it done would not be [wise],” Trestman said.
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A year ago they were saying the same thing about the offense… they need to evaluate the players and devise the scheme to fit the talent. If you read the article it's clear that 3-4 alignments are not out of the question. I can only hope we have similar results with the D this year as we had with the offense last year. I don't see that happening simply because of the turnover at all three levels of the D so I'd be content if we can just be average on D this year.
I think there going to draft and bring in FAs and figure out what scheme is best to run with what they have. I agree it will take two years, this year is important it get a playmaker somewhere, dont think everything will be determined by where SMC fits in the best. Bostic will be designated to fill Briggs shoes after this year, so he will either win the SLB spot or be everybodys backup. I suspect from previous behavior that Lance will come in in shape and play well, but also will be complaining about a new contract from the get go.
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Actually the biggest problem was his knee injury, and your right no one can be accurate with number of games played, but with such a lousy line in front of him, I suspect he would have missed more games due to his abuse by lineman reaching him.