Posts posted by Stinger226
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Arm length I suppose. This is a really deep draft, 4th round might seem like falling far but with all the talent in the draft I don't think we're talking about a huge plummet.
CBS has him as the 101 ranked prospect.
Cracker, like I said in my last post, yes, I believe he can win the camp battle between he Conte and Jennings.
Actually he has been moving up boards of late. I think some people just get lost, and the combine starting getting him a lot of attention.
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Jeff Janis 6'3" 4.37 speed, loved him at the Senior Bowl and L'Damian Washington 6'4" 4.38. Both fit the big WR mold Phil/Trestman seem to love and both have top notch speed.
I don't think it's a real need, but addind one of those guys would be realllly intriguing.
Is Herron still left, just got home.
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As a 3rd Rd pick Sutton is not a "risk" IMO. I've watched him play a lot of games and have never seen one game where he didn't have or force several negative plays. That's against any team including perennial draft favorites USC and Oregon. There's no doubt in my mind that going all the way up to 320lbs was far too much for him. He did that 35lb weight gain in one offseason. That messes up your body, no different than when Izzy did the same thing to play DT for the Bears years ago and it didn't work. It hurt Sutton's mobility and I also think hurt his conditioning, or at least his endurance. Despite that he was still the bell cow for the ASU defense but I can say I saw him gassed and taking plays off. He fought through it and he fought through a lot of injuries. As the focus of Olines he often face double teams and sometimes took some cheap shots around his knees. I also think he has good character and never heard issues around that other than he's a locker room leader.
Here's "bad" Will Sutton against Stanford. Stanford has been producing a lot of NFL lineman in recent years so the level of competition is a realistic comparison to what he'll see in the NFL. He gets quite a few double teams throughout the game and even on those he holds his ground at the LOS. I think this is his floor, to borrow a Jerry Angelo phrase, and he's still effective in this game. Knowing we drafted a big body in Ferguson who can handle, or hopefully forces the double teams his way, will free up Sutton even more.
http://draftbreakdown.com/video/will-sutto...-stanford-2013/
Here's the "good" Sutton playing at 285lbs against USC in 2012. We need the player in the middle of these two, stronger than 2012 but keep the quickness. Again, he was a Junior so that's to be expected. I'm not saying he's the next Warren Sapp. Sapp was the 12th pick overall, Sutton is a 3rd Rd pick. He's going to make plays for us (and I hate that cliche).
The kid has some game, I think he will become Melton type player which will be just fine.
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Time for RB. From an article I read, Emery may be looking for an oversized corner to develop into a FS. Of course, if I'm a big corner and my draft projection is not good as a corner, I'm entering the process promoting my ability to play safety. So, I'm not convinced that diamond is out there.
Everything after the first round is a crap shoot. I like FS names of Huff, Reynolds,Exum,Vereen. I suspect that is in the 5th round.
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Here is whats left for us.
http://www.gbnreport.com/updatedtop100.html
I honestly dont care about what names falls to us but want(not in order)
RB
TE
FS
LB
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Sutton is a risk pick, but 1/2 the first round picks are usually busts. I remain optimistic that is will all work out and cant wait to see this happen on the field.
I like you had other names I would prefer but do not hate our picks. I am sadden we didnt get a S, but if Fuller turns out to be the player Emery thinks he is, we did good.
Here is a statement referring to Sutton. Roll the dice and lets see what happens.
Sutton had a monster season in 2012, registering 63 tackles, 23.5 tackles for loss, 13 sacks, five pass deflections and three forced fumbles. Despite his terrific season, his weight jumped from 290 pounds to over 300 pounds, and his production steadily dropped off.
In 2013, Sutton registered just 48 tackles, 13.5 tackles for loss, four sacks and three pass deflections. He lost his explosiveness because of the weight gain and likely dropped down many draft boards over concerns of whether or not he could get himself back to his 2012 weight.
These are Donalds number this last year: 59 28.5 11.0 They look quite similar to me.
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I keep seeing a lot of love for Louis Nix but the comments I heard about him earlier to day by Greg Cosell of NFL films may be the reason the Bears passed on him. He stated that when he watched tape on Nix that he was on the ground too much. Mayock commented that Nix should play at 330 because he seems to get tired and loses leverage. Those types of comments and the fact he had a torn meniscus might be the reason why the Bears passed on Nix.
Several teams passed on him, we see the big names and think thats the guy, they work them out and got someone they wanted. It is not a perfect system(evaluation). I too, had other names I preferred but they did address a need. S is still a huge need,chances of finding a starter yet is pretty slim. I never expect a team to address all needs in the offseason and it looks like the one position that got sidestepped . You have to let the draft fall to you and all the good prospects dropped in the first round. Lets wait and see.
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I'm sure Ego looks forward to Shea teaching him both things he knows.
Thats funny. We all know our needs, but at DT but the Bears put a lot of research into who they want, the difference is its different names. They have two new line coaches that I am sure had great input into this. Lets see what happens.
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DE-Houston,Young,Allen,Bass-Odonije probably gone.
DT-Ratliff,Paea,Fegurson,Sutton, Collins
This is our DLine-2014. I actually like it. Sutton goes back to playing his 2012 self, he had 13 sacks, he was the Donald of that year. We got something going on .
3rds--Young,Houston,Sutton, Allen------thats pressure with a P
Emery rebuilt the line, not as fans have it figured, but I think this will work. The weak link now is Paea, maybe it will lite a fire under his ass. This could be a really good line.
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Clownery,Nix, Watts, that is a WTF line.
DE-Houston,Young,Allen,Bass-Odonije probably gone.
DT-Ratliff,Paea,Fegurson,Sutton, Collins
This is our DLine-2014. I actually like it. Sutton goes back to playing his 2012 self, he had 13 sacks, he was the Donald of that year. We got something going on .
3rds--Young,Houston,Sutton, Allen------thats pressure with a P
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Brrrrroooock Vereen, S
in Bearstalk
I think Emery has done his homework and as much as I hate to, give you some credit for bringing his name up. I didnt even pay attention to him.