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Stinger226

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  1. Today at his news conference Emery talked about he was comfortable with 6 players to take with his 14th pick.

     

    so here is my list, I think he has

     

    Donald- no brainer, but the best DT in the draft probably wont be there at 14-history tells us that

    HaHa and Pryor are two high rated Ss that fill a need

    Gilbert and I believe Fuller are the CBs that is on his list. I think Fuller instead of Dennard because he is closer of a Tillman like CB.

    And the last is C.J. Mosely-He is a high rated LB that I think Emery will consider taking with our 14th pick.

     

    I personally think we will trade back and get a couple of extra picks

     

    So my later in the draft list:

     

    Fuller

    Pryor

    Ward

    Hageman

    Truitt

     

    So its your turn

  2. I really think there's still some solid guys left that should be there in the 3rd who will come in, compete, and beat Conte and all the other guys they have at FS.

     

    Brock Vereen is a guy I'm really starting to like. Good size, great strength, top shelf speed at the position, good in coverage(Has played CB), high character, leadership traits, good work ethic, and he has the family bloodlines(Pops was drafted and his bro is Shane Vereen).

     

    Ed Reynolds has long been one of my favorites to draft in my mocks this offseason. Sans the speed and CB background I can say the same thing I did about Reynolds as I did about Vereen. His father played 9 years in the league.

     

    Then there's Jaylen Watkins and Antone Exum who are widely listed as CBs but actually played FS last year and I think would be solid players at FS.

     

     

     

    It is indeed hindsight though. I think there's a rather sizable drop off after Tuitt/Hageman, neither of which I'm sure would actually be there in real life.

     

    The one out of that group that has any shot of being a starter, would be Exum. His injury took him down but is a sneaky pick to succeed.

  3. Without knowing what else was on the board it's hard to tell whether I like it or not...I guess I could live with it

    You could live with it, everything with you is predicated on Donald. Chances of him being there are pretty slim. So I guess you will turn off the draft if he aint there.

  4. They could really throw A TON of different looks at defenses with Houston and Hageman both being capable of playing anywhere on the DL. It'd be real tough for OLs to deal with.

    Having that situation would be unique but as the draft as shown,all the good Ss are gone. Two good prospects in the line probably bodes well over all, but failing to get a starting safety would not be a good thing.

  5. I'd be pretty damn happy with that as well. It addresses the first two team needs with the first two picks, then prepares for the future with SJP, and finally fortifies the second-level with a tackling machine.

    Why do you dislike Miller? I think he's pretty sharp. Two years ago , he rated Jeffery as the top WR, and guess what-he was right.

  6. Donald/Hageman! Nice, you can have flexibility of rotating the two also. With fear of Donald not being an everydown guy and Hageman taking plays off. If Bucannon was there I'd question that.

     

    Fun to follow and keep it going

    Its time for the Cardinals to pick: Austin Seferian-Jenkins TE. they need help along the front line, but Austin is to good to pass up at this point of the draft.

     

    Jason and the Puckers are on the clock.

  7. Yeah, it's too early to tell. From what I read of the story, the guy says Morgan sucker punched him for no reason. And Morgan says absolutely nothing happened. Why do I feel like the truth is somewhere in the middle? Morgan was probably provoked and punched the dude. Not that it excuses Morgan's bad behavior. As far as I can tell it's his first time offense and he might miss one game.

     

    Something happens again, you cut him, no questions asked. At least he didn't get stabbed by his wife or try to become a drug king-pin . . .

    With all the crap that floats around the NFL, this is chum change.

  8. With the 41st pick in the 2014 NFL draft, the Buffalo Bills select Odell Beckham, WR LSU.

     

    Tennesse (Jason) is on the clock.

     

    With this pick I felt like a playmaker was the greatest need for Buffalo. There were 3-4 WR's I felt could easily go in this spot.

    He was already picked at 15

  9. Anderson was only good when he wasn't blocked. That happened a lot his rookie year but as soon as someone got their hands on him he did nothing. He should have never been promoted to a starting role ahead of Brown. Anyone who watched any replays (aka film) could see that. It was just one of many Lovie mysteries.

    He had a lot of those moments.

  10. Lovie is still sick to death of drafting offense in the 1st round, and with no OG of good value here, he goes for a local product. With the 38th pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, the Tampa Bay Bucs select Timmy Jernigan, DT, FSU.

     

    MadLith is on the clock with Jax and Min....

    Jernigan, is a good valve at this spot of the draft, and its Lovie, defense, defense defense.

  11. Maybe. That's what makes the second round more interesting than the first. A few perspectives:

    1. Kiper has Borland ranked as the #25 player overall and projected to actually go to Washington at #34

    2. The Hub Arkush magazine has him ranked as the #28 player overall

    3. Walter-football has him projected to go to Miami at #50.

    4. NFL draft countdown has him going #71 to Cleveland

     

    I'd hoped to draft Ryan Shazier who went to Houston. That left me debating between LB Borland, CB Roby, and OT Kouandjio as their 3 Washington's 3 greatest needs are LB, CB and O-line.

     

    That being said, I concede I don't know what the hell I'm doing and that I really don't give a damn about Washington :rolleyes:

    Draft gurus are all over the place after the first 10 to 15 players, so there is no certainty on picks. Does anybody believe Kyle Long was a first round pick, until we made him one. Hell no.

    After the first round, GMs draft according to their board, not mock drafts. I have a tendency to like the ex scouts, and what they have to say. Draft sites like, GBNF,Our lads, Draft countdown. I also like Matt Millers opinions. And all of these are wrong most of the time. I think the ones that tell you who the top 30 are, not necessarily to the right teams, are the smart ones. Early second isnt considered a good valve, but I think he will be a very good player. If he becomes a strarter in the NFL and is above average in his play, that's not to early.

  12. With the 36th pick in the 2014 NFL draft, the Oakland Raiders select:

    Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State

     

    Honestly, the WRs at this point are a crap-shoot up to personal bias. I happen to like Kelvin Benjamin more, and I don't agree with the rankings at the beginning of this thread; so, that helps. But to make this decision, I reinforced it with the WF rankings, and went off something the Oakland GM said: "We don't have that go-to big hitter Calvin Johnson-type guy at receiver."

     

    It sounds to me like he wants a big WR who can go up and get it in traffic, as well as provide a dangerous red-zone threat. Depth at the position is great this draft, so this might be something they go away from until the third. Then again, there are multiple QBs in that next tier, and one is likely to fall to Oakland's next pick. This pick was almost Allen Robsinson, PSU.

     

    Atlanta (Stinger226) is on the clock.

    There are a few spots they need to fill, but they need to replace an all pro TE so they go with Jake Amaro/TE. Its an offensive league and no valve at there other areas of need.

     

    We have the evil Tampa Bay up next and that would be ADAM

  13. You're in the minority in writing Briggs off that soon. In his career, that's the first extended injury he has sustained. Before the injury (Detroit game?) he was easily the best defensive player on the team. Yes, Briggs looked terrible upon his return. I expect his spare tire to be gone and he will be back to his old self.

    I suspect your right, its a contract year so we will see the hustling Briggs that wants a new contract.

  14. I don't disagree but I'm comparing the difference in talent levels... There's less of a drop off between Bostic vs Mosely than there is between Gilbert/Denard vs Frey. The bigger upgrade is at CB, and last year the #3 CB played 50% of the snaps(Remember Bowman came in when Tillman went down, not Frey).

     

    Plus Mosely's injury history scares me.

     

     

    It's your pick in the draft BTW.

    He had minor injuries so I dont think that will come into play, but you do make a good point. Where our conflict comes into play, is I think Bostic ends up in Briggs spot and flourishes there. The scenario comes into to play, that could be this year.Briggs has a lingering issue, 6 months after the fact. He was cleared to play,but he was invisible.

  15. You're right about that. In terms of who will play more snaps, a rookie MLB like Mosely will definitely play more than a rookie DB, whoever it is. The same can be said about Safety, however, more than LB. A rookie Safety like HHCD or Pryor starts day one without a doubt.

     

    Linebackers: Briggs, Bostic, McClellin, Greene, Williams (That's a solid rotation)

    Safeties: Conte, Mundy, Steltz, Jennings (i.e. hot garbage)

     

    Strong as you're weakest link...

     

    If HHCD or Pryor is there, the FS depth in this draft is not great. And it's definitely not as strong as DT. The first pick should be FS.

    I have a strong desire for Pryor and have been pining for him for some time, but I see an all pro MLB type making an impact on our team, and we can still get Ward or Bucannon in the second. I think all four of them are starters the first year, at least on this team.

     

    If we go by best player available, I honestly think Haha and Donald are already gone, so he could arguably be the best defensive player on the board. I think Gilbert will be a good player, but dont think he will be the stud play maker everybody projects him to be.

  16. This seems pretty obvious with all the WRs selected...

     

    The Niners select Jason Verrett, CB, TCU.

    Considered OLB Shazier given Aldon Smith's dumb ass. Nonetheless,this is probably BPA by position. Chris Cook cannot be trusted, which is why he was only signed for one year.

     

    Denver (Stinger) is on the clock.

    They need help at MLB but not any good valves at this spot. Fagency fixed many problems, so they replace Beadles with Xavier Su'a-Filo/OG.

    Denver takes the OG with an attitude.They have to protect Payton for one more year.

     

    Jason is up.

  17. I think the difference between LB and CB is Mosely vs Bostic and Gilbert vs Frey... I have 3 guys ahead of Gilbert/Denard because I'd really like to wait, but if those 3 guys are gone then I'd have to consider taking one of those uber CBs. If somehow all 5 are gone then maybe I'd consider Mosely.

     

    Briggs will be fine, you're really overstating the whole injury thing. The article that got you talking came out like a month ago and he was already working out with heavy weights. The season is months away, there's no reason to think he'll miss any time.

     

    I believe you've said it before yourself you can't pick based on potential injuries.

     

     

    I will say that I don't absolutely hate the idea now, but I still love the potential of Bostic and Greene.

    I guarantee you, Mosely will have a impact over any CB drafted on our team THIS year. A CB will see some time but will not be playing ahead of Tillman or Jennings.

  18. Still don't think we should sleep on Khaseem Greene as a quality backup, I have higher hopes for him than I do SMC, and I think SMC will be serviceable.

     

    IMO we're 5 deep at LB, which should be enough. I've grown ok with Mosely (I swear I heard earlier on that he was bad in coverage but I've been reading otherwise now) but I'm only taking him if Donald/HHCD/Pryor/Gilbert/Denard are all gone and even then I'd like to trade down for Hageman/Tuitt.

    Im with Donald, but I know he wont be there. either safety or I want Mosely, he is a stud LB, will enhance any team he goes too. Why CB when you have been selling the depth theory?

     

    So if Greene, Bostic and SCM are our LBers , your good with that? Briggs has issues, Williams is an injury waiting to happen. I think Mosely is a potential, all star type LB, only Bostic has any inclination of that happening and that will be at Briggs spot.

  19. Yeah this pretty much covers what we've been saying really. PFT did make one mistake saying, "They need to add a talented defensive tackle to add to the current rotation of Tracy Robertson, Stephen Paea, and Jay Ratliff . . . " I'm sitting here thinking "Who the hell is Tracy Robertson?" He's listed as a defensive end who was a rookie with Miami last season. He was cut at some point and played in one game with the Bears (week 12 vs. St. Louis) and recorded no stats.

     

    But I agree, when you look at weaknesses on other teams, comparitively, the Bears have promising options at all positions.

     

    I will disagree with you about the need for our linebacker position. We have a really nice mixture of really old guys who are good when healthy and motivated (DJ Williams and Lance Briggs) young players with promise that we've drafted in the 1st, 2nd, and 4th rounds in the past 2 years (Shea, Bostic, and Greene) and a veteran special teams ace is Jordan Senn. I don't see any of those guys not making that team.

    When I stated little depth for LB I should have unproven. Briggs, is a staple IF HEALTHY, and with Williams, and Bostic and SCM for the sam , were ok. but that all falls to shit,if Williams gets hurt again(hasnt played a full season since 2010)., and Briggs never recovers from the surgery he had last year. I suppose if we do draft Mosely, if will tell us that the Briggs situation is more questionably than we thought.

  20. With the 29th pick, in the 2014 draft, the New England Patriots select Stephon Tuitt. Defensive tackle from the University of Notre Dame.

     

    The Patriots could go o-line, cb, d-line, WR, TE. Of that group, D-line has the best selection with Stephon Tuitt, Timmy Jernigan, and Ra'shede ageman all available. Tuitt gets the edge here because of his athleticism and versatility.

     

    San Fran Jason is now on the clock at #30.

    I see that happening, a player that is rated around here with great upside, is exactly things that they do.

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