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Edwards did, there are several angles and he has possession before his leg hits because his hip is down inbounds, play ends there.

Bears moving the ball nice, then decide to run Evans 3 times in a row to basically settle for a long FG. Come on Getsy, way too conservative. After the Mooney play, they had them on their heals, they needed to up the tempo right there.

Finally, an explosive play to Mooney for 39.

Another call against the Bears, Edwards clearly had possession in bounds. These refs, seriously.

Vikings are moving the ball way too easy without Jefferson. I have no idea what the Bears defense is doing when they can literally double every player in a route, yet players are open. Cousins is way too comfortable back there.

Bears are gonna lose this game if refs keep calling the game like they are. Clear DPI now against MIN, no call. Bears getting no calls.

That or in concussion protocol. He is missing some running lanes and seems to be running right into defenders. It has been really odd lately.

#58 literally elbows Fields in the head blatantly and no call? WTF again. Bears settle for FG, tie game.

Man, Fields is getting hit on every play. Borom is a turnstile. They need to go max protect and get the ball to DJ. All this fancy slow stuff is not working. Unfortunately, it looks like the last two weeks were the anomaly so far in this game.

Velus almost with a blunder on the kickoff, decides to let it bounce, then tries to run it out and gets smothered at the 10. Luckily it hit the end zone and was already a touchback. You had one job.

The Bears defense allows a few easy plays (bends), but forces a FG (but not break). Minnesota is using max protect on almost every passing play and only have 2-3 players running routes against 6 defenders, there is no reason players should be open but they are. Jaylon with a nice PBU to force the FG. Sanborn had a nice tackle at the LOS.

Terrible start for the offense. Fields sacked an under duress every play. Borom is playing bad. Fields had to run for a few plays, nothing going in the passing game. Bears get one first down, but are forced to punt after going backwards. The defense better step up or it's going be a long game.

Tonyan too?

I thought so too, he felt like a highlight reel. However, if you just look at his stats, you would not think that at all. Here are some wild numbers from Vick: 1. Most passing yards in a season: 3303 1a. 3K yard passing seasons: 2 (out of 13) 1b. 300 yd passing games: 13 (of 115 starts) 2. Most TD passes in a season: 21 2a. 20+ Passing TD seasons: 2 (out of 13) 3. Highest QB Rating in a season: 100.2 (only season over 95.0) 4. Most total TDs in a season: 30 5. Most games started in one season for PHI: 13 6a. Playoff games started in PHI: 1 7. MVPs: 0 8. Record with PHI: 20-20 9. # of 1K rushing seasons: 1 9a. Most rushing yards in a season: 1039 9b. # of 100 yd rushing games: 10 (out of 115 starts) 10. Fumbles: 98 (in 143 games) 11. #1 Pick was traded by SD to ATL. SD selected some guy named LaDainian Tomlinson at #5. 11a. LT made the AP Team 6 times and was MVP in 2006. Vick finished 2nd in MVP voting in 2004. Let me know what you think of some of those. I was surprised at how low most of them were.

^^^^^^^^^^^ This x1000000 ^^^^^^^^^ and if Fields starts developing a quick game, it's really over for the league. He would turn into Lamar's MVP Year Clone for the rest of the year scoring 3-4 TDs a game, every game.

So that is challenging if you are blitzing and sending 5. If they bracket DJ, that's 7, now you only have 4 defenders to cover Mooney, Kmet, Scott, and Foreman out of the backfield. That will create a lot of space and make for some easier throws over the middle for Fields. One missed tackle, and it's a home run.

Interestingly enough, since Vick played sparingly in his first 3 seasons, and Fields has 30 starts and counting. Fields still has some work to do on his yards per game, but comp%, TD%, Y/A are really solid. 1. Fields (30 GS) 445-740, 60.1%, 5255 yds, 35 TD, 26 INT, 7.1 Y/A, 82.9 Rating, 271-1754 yds, 11 TD (Total: 7009 yds, 46 TD) 2. Vick (21 GS) 303-634, 52.2%, 4306 yds, 22 TD, 14 INT, 6.8 Y/A, 76.3 Rating, 184-1321 yds, 10 TD (Total: 5627 yds, 32 TD) 3. Cunningham (21 GS) 368-696, 52.9%, 4725 yds, 32 TD, 27 INT, 6.8 Y/A, 73.6 Rating, 171-1250 yds, 8 TD (Total: 5975 yds, 40 TD) Kinda wild how close Vick and Cunningham were, both with 21 starts thru 3 seasons.

Let me look him up.

I used https://stathead.com/ it is an extension of Pro Football Reference. It is by subscription for some of the data. It's $60 a year for full access or $8 a month. Some may only want to use it during the season, so pay for 4-5 months for $32-$40 instead of the $60.

QBs in their first 3 seasons, over 5K passing yards, 35 TDs, less than 30 INTs, rating over 80, closest comps to Fields: Brady (30 GS) 638-1017, 62.7%, 6613 yds, 46 TD, 26 INT, 6.5 Y/A, 85.9 Rating, 78-153 yds, 1 TD (Total: 6768 yds, 47 TD) Fields (30 GS) 445-740, 60.1%, 5255 yds, 35 TD, 26 INT, 7.1 Y/A, 82.9 Rating, 271-1754 yds, 11 TD (Total: 7009 yds, 46 TD) McNabb (32 GS) 447-1062, 57.9%, 6598 yds, 46 TD, 25 INT, 6.2 Y/A, 80.9 Rating, 168-1111 yds, 8 TD (Total: 7708 tds, 54 TD) The Brady passing comp is crazy, but it is there, Fields just has rushing attempts vs passing attempts. Now he just needs the volume and sample size to grow. If I up the rushing yards to 1K it's McNabb then the next two: Jalen Hurts (34 GS) 392-1040, 62.3%, 7906 yds, 44 TD, 19 INT, 7.6 Y/A, 92.2 Rating, 367-1898 yds, 26 TD (9804 yds, 70 TD) Lamar Jackson (37 GS) 606-947, 64.0%, 7085 yds, 68 TD, 18 INT, 7.5 Y/A, 102.6 Rating, 482-2906 yds, 19 TD (9991 yds, 87 TD) Obviously a few thing stand out. Jackson's passing TDs are insane, Hurts rushing TDs are crazy, and Jackson's rushing yards. However, even with all the crappy games under Nagy, and last year, if Fields has a solid 7 games, he has a chance to have the same amount of passing yards as Jackson after 37 starts and would be very close to Hurts' passing TDs and rushing yards. This would almost seem unimaginable before the season started.

Doing Jordan Love comps is hilarious: Under 10 starts thru Year 4 w/ 200 attempts, 10 TDs, and less than 10 INTs, he best comps to the following QBs: Jeff Driskel 202-345, 58.6%, 2120 yds, 13 TD, 8 INT, 6.1 Y/A, 79.4 Rating Jordan Love 140-245, 57.1%, 1689 yds, 11 TD, 9 INT, 6.9 Y/A, 78.1 Rating Brandon Allen 149-263, 56.7%, 1611 yds, 10 TD, 6 INT, 6.1 Y/A, 78.0 Rating Love has played almost identical to Brandon Allen into his 4th year in the NFL. The biggest difference is Allen had 1/3 fewer INTs. Here are the QBs just above and below that group: Mason Rudolph Brock Osweiler ------------ Driskel, Love, Allen ------------ Matt McGloin Zach Mettenberger So if Love improves, he can move into Osweiler and Rudolph territory. If he gets worse, he would drop into McGloin/Mettenberger range. GB has to know this, right?

Foreman is a good pass blocker. They can always use Blasingame for that and Lewis is a 6th OL when he is in there. I think Foreman will have a nice game, he always seems to when he comes in for these types of situations. That first Bears offensive drive will be huge. If they can score a TD, it will put MIN on their heels.

Thanks, that's how I was looking at it in my brain. Easier to see in a table. Things get really interesting on the extremes. Within the picks variable, there are 2 other variables, Bears and Panthers. #1 and #2 doesn't seem realistic anymore. However, something like #1 and #11 do, or #2 and #8. I guess I will have to break down each draft pick combo with CAR getting 1-3, and Bears getting 6-12 and figure out the likelihood of each. I will do that after this weekend as the Bears outcome will sway things due to them playing MIN. CAR are 13.5 underdogs to MIA and it probably should be more. They should be 0-6 in 2 days.

True true. Good points. I didn't know he has fallen off that much. However, DRob has been brutal this season, like below a replacement level player. I would almost rather see Sanborn or Sewell brought in as situational pass rushers, they have the speed and strength to do it on a very part-time basis. Something needs to be done to get the pass rush going as DRob and Green have really struggled.

I honestly thought Wilson was doing terrible based on the last few weeks, however, he has 12 TDs and 4 INTs, a 99.0 QB Rating, and a 65.9 Comp% on the season. All values better than Fields (though he has played 1 more game so TDs are not really a fair comp). Nonetheless, if you only watched Wilson the last two weeks, you would think he is a bottom 5 QB, but due to a few good games earlier in the season, he is still up there for TDs, QB Rating, INTs, and Comp% somehow. It also feels like he has taken a billion sacks, yet only has 19 thru 6 games, and Fields has 20 thru 5, so go figure.