DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Both coordinators will be retained. RB coach is off to Texas and our oline coach and assistant DB coach are out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50england50 Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 With the oline coach gone I wonder what the thought is on the oline moving forward. Whatever we do at QB is impacted by the control at the line of scrimmage. Magazu was a long time Fox coach so that must be telling with him being let go. I hope we don't reach for a QB because we are at least a secondary, at least 1 tackle, a tight end and a stud DE from having team capable of making the playoffs before overspending on a QB. I would rather carry on with Cutler than send the 3rd pick to New England for Garapalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 With the oline coach gone I wonder what the thought is on the oline moving forward. Whatever we do at QB is impacted by the control at the line of scrimmage. Magazu was a long time Fox coach so that must be telling with him being let go. I hope we don't reach for a QB because we are at least a secondary, at least 1 tackle, a tight end and a stud DE from having team capable of making the playoffs before overspending on a QB. I would rather carry on with Cutler than send the 3rd pick to New England for Garapalo I would never ever in a million years send a top 15 pick for Jimmy G. I would hope our 2nd and a 4th could get it done and if it took a 1st, we'd have to move down and accumulate other assets. If it took the 3rd overall pick, I would never in a million years suggest it. I was surprised Magazu isn't being retained (I don't know if it was a mutual thing and he is looking for something else or if he was just let go though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 I liked Magazu, thought he did a good job here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 I liked Magazu, thought he did a good job here. Evidently the players weren't big fans of his and that is why he is on the way out. I didn't think our performance was indicative of a guy needed to get the ax. He was a long time assistant of Fox (back in Denver too, IIRC). Not sure if he was with him in Carolina as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Evidently the players weren't big fans of his and that is why he is on the way out. I didn't think our performance was indicative of a guy needed to get the ax. He was a long time assistant of Fox (back in Denver too, IIRC). Not sure if he was with him in Carolina as well. I read that last night. Apparently he was not liked by the Oline players. We had Mawae in camp last year and he did well enough they kept him around all all season, plus he was well respected by the players. -------------- http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...0104-story.html "But Magazu was unpopular with players and some of them wondered privately if he would be let go during the season with the team struggling. The Bears had an interesting dynamic in play where the team essentially had four O-line coaches. Ben Wilkerson had the title of assistant offensive line coach and Kevin Mawae, who was an intern for training camp, was hired for the remainder of the season because he was so well-liked by the players. Additionally, tight ends coach Frank Smith had a natural hand in work with the offensive line and took a more vocal role during this season." ----------------- I appears my credit for the decent Oline performance was misplaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 That is great news about Fangio, don't know if I still want Loggains around though. Does that mean Cutler is back too? Hopefully Mawae gets elevated, great player, and he could teach from experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 That is great news about Fangio, don't know if I still want Loggains around though. Does that mean Cutler is back too? Hopefully Mawae gets elevated, great player, and he could teach from experience. I can't see any scenario where Cutler is back. I presume Mawae will be the new oline coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Per @BradBiggs, Bears OLBs coach Clint Hurtt declined a contract extension and will not return. With team since 2014" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Per @BradBiggs, Bears OLBs coach Clint Hurtt declined a contract extension and will not return. With team since 2014" Bummed about this. I think he's done well converting our veterans and new players to the 3-4 front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Bummed about this. I think he's done well converting our veterans and new players to the 3-4 front. I have heard rumors that McCoy(long time aide to Fox) could come here as the Assistant head coach. Do the play calling and still retain Loggians as OC with a lesser role. Why would McCoy do that? At Foxes age, he may turn the reigns to the team over to McCoy when his contract is up, and maybe Pace would agree with that depending on the success of the team until then. McCoy is viewed as a good offensive mind but has had the same problems that we have had here with many injuries and a poor defense. with Fangio here, the defense will become good if not great so it may we a great scenario for everybody involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 I have heard rumors that McCoy(long time aide to Fox) could come here as the Assistant head coach. Do the play calling and still retain Loggians as OC with a lesser role. Why would McCoy do that? At Foxes age, he may turn the reigns to the team over to McCoy when his contract is up, and maybe Pace would agree with that depending on the success of the team until then. McCoy is viewed as a good offensive mind but has had the same problems that we have had here with many injuries and a poor defense. with Fangio here, the defense will become good if not great so it may we a great scenario for everybody involved. This early in the coaching carousel process I think this is more speculation than fact. Both Fox and Mccoy may be open to that but McCoy was a successful OC before he went to San Diego. I wouldn't be surprised to see him offered a job by one of the new HC around the league, especially one who was a defensive coordinator. I think he'd want that role before coming to Chicago and working with Fox again. I'm not as down on Loggains as most are. I was actually impressed that he kept our offense moving with a lot of backup pieces. When you're down to 3rd/4th string WRs and 4th string QB expectations for anything from the offense dropped to zero. He still got points on the board, or in the case of Hoyer he still kept the offense moving. People point to Howard being the reason for all that but fact is in the 2nd half of the season stopping Howard became the priority of defenses. When everyone knows what you're going to do, they focus on stopping it yet you still run it down their throat... I like that identity. We had no identity on offense the first few weeks and it showed. He found his gem of an identity in Howard and built up the running game to where nobody was able to stop it even when Kush and Larsen were in at OG. I find it interesting that Fox finds McCoy and helps him become one of the better OCs and then off to become a head coach. Fox replaces him with Adam Gase and over the next few years helps Gase become one of the better OCs who then leaves to become a head coach. Fox finds Loggains and... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 Bummed about this. I think he's done well converting our veterans and new players to the 3-4 front. Sounded like it has to do with the fact that he wants to go back to the line. IIRC, we blocked him from taking a position a year ago (think it was to go join Gase in Miami, but maybe it was a college job), so I presume he had other opportunities that were more interesting to him. I agree with you though, he is a good coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 This early in the coaching carousel process I think this is more speculation than fact. Both Fox and Mccoy may be open to that but McCoy was a successful OC before he went to San Diego. I wouldn't be surprised to see him offered a job by one of the new HC around the league, especially one who was a defensive coordinator. I think he'd want that role before coming to Chicago and working with Fox again. I'm not as down on Loggains as most are. I was actually impressed that he kept our offense moving with a lot of backup pieces. When you're down to 3rd/4th string WRs and 4th string QB expectations for anything from the offense dropped to zero. He still got points on the board, or in the case of Hoyer he still kept the offense moving. People point to Howard being the reason for all that but fact is in the 2nd half of the season stopping Howard became the priority of defenses. When everyone knows what you're going to do, they focus on stopping it yet you still run it down their throat... I like that identity. We had no identity on offense the first few weeks and it showed. He found his gem of an identity in Howard and built up the running game to where nobody was able to stop it even when Kush and Larsen were in at OG. I find it interesting that Fox finds McCoy and helps him become one of the better OCs and then off to become a head coach. Fox replaces him with Adam Gase and over the next few years helps Gase become one of the better OCs who then leaves to become a head coach. Fox finds Loggains and... ? Agree with your sentiments...that said, if somehow McCoy wants to come here as an assistant head coach, great. I would think he'd want a spot where he had better upside. I could see if we had a young QB, who he could come in and spend a lot of time with and get credit that way, but otherwise, seems like the upside is more limited. Unless of course Fox tells him that we intend to bring in a young QB, etc. Developing a young QB is one of the quickest ways to get a head coaching job again. McCoy would be a fantastic hire, I just don't see him coming here (would think there were far better places to go). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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