Nick Chubb?

[Stinger226]

Unless Poles comes out and says they were trying to move up, it's just rumors. 

One person starts a rumor, then 10 people repeat that rumor, it doesn't make it a fact. 

Last year in a video, Poles was getting nervous to move up to take Rome, Ian made him wait and we got Rome. That's a fact because we saw a video verifying it. Poles has never stated he try to move up, he said he let the draft come to him.

 

[BearFan PHX]

1 hour ago, Stinger226 said:

Unless Poles comes out and says they were trying to move up, it's just rumors. 

One person starts a rumor, then 10 people repeat that rumor, it doesn't make it a fact. 

Last year in a video, Poles was getting nervous to move up to take Rome, Ian made him wait and we got Rome. That's a fact because we saw a video verifying it. Poles has never stated he try to move up, he said he let the draft come to him.

 

Youre right of course. And if that's the standard of evidence around here that's fine by me, but we have to play by it equally

I think the fact that we traded down right after each HB got taken in front of us is pretty good evidence, but it's circumstantial I agree, not proof.

[AZ54]

5 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

Unless Poles comes out and says they were trying to move up, it's just rumors. 

One person starts a rumor, then 10 people repeat that rumor, it doesn't make it a fact. 

Last year in a video, Poles was getting nervous to move up to take Rome, Ian made him wait and we got Rome. That's a fact because we saw a video verifying it. Poles has never stated he try to move up, he said he let the draft come to him.

 

None of which means he didn't inquire about moving up.  I fully expect him, and every other GM, to be doing that throughout the draft to assess trades values up or down as the process plays out.  As far as I know teams won't disclose who they are picking until agreement is reached on value.   Since it's a fact we didn't reach an agreement with any team on a trade up I find it suspicious anyone would know who we were thinking about trading up for...unless the leak is from inside the house!    

[BearFan PHX]

27 minutes ago, AZ54 said:

None of which means he didn't inquire about moving up.  I fully expect him, and every other GM, to be doing that throughout the draft to assess trades values up or down as the process plays out.  As far as I know teams won't disclose who they are picking until agreement is reached on value.   Since it's a fact we didn't reach an agreement with any team on a trade up I find it suspicious anyone would know who we were thinking about trading up for...unless the leak is from inside the house!    

I think when a GM calls around to multiple teams, and doesn't make a deal with them, those other teams talk too, and the info gets out.

And like you say, calling and pulling the trigger are two different things. From the coaching hire, we know Poles is the type to fully investigate all kinds of scenarios that wont actually happen. So he might be an active GM in calling to figure out prices for trades up and down all the time.

To Stinger's point, even if he was doing the due diligence Im talking about it doesnt mean that he was serious about consummating the trade, and it doesn't mean it would have been a HB if he had traded anyway.

But as sports fans, we can read tea leaves and make guesses. It certainly doesnt prove anything either way; that he is fine with or not fine with Swift. But we can guess.

[AZ54]

I still have the vision of Ben Johnson in the draft room hearing about trading up for a RB and like a little boy at Christmas being excited for his new toy.  Then being disappointed when it didn’t happen.  Then the box opens up later and inside is “stud” Luther Burden.  

[Stinger226]

23 hours ago, AZ54 said:

None of which means he didn't inquire about moving up.  I fully expect him, and every other GM, to be doing that throughout the draft to assess trades values up or down as the process plays out.  As far as I know teams won't disclose who they are picking until agreement is reached on value.   Since it's a fact we didn't reach an agreement with any team on a trade up I find it suspicious anyone would know who we were thinking about trading up for...unless the leak is from inside the house!    

Every GM checks out all scenarios but Twitter has us moving up to get Jeanty like Poles posted it in the tribune.

[BearFan PHX]

On 4/30/2025 at 7:41 PM, AZ54 said:

None of which means he didn't inquire about moving up.  I fully expect him, and every other GM, to be doing that throughout the draft to assess trades values up or down as the process plays out.  As far as I know teams won't disclose who they are picking until agreement is reached on value.   Since it's a fact we didn't reach an agreement with any team on a trade up I find it suspicious anyone would know who we were thinking about trading up for...unless the leak is from inside the house!    

For sure, all we know, from other teams, is that Poles was inquiring about the price to trade up. We can't know who he was thinking of taking had the price been right. Probably Banks at 3 LOL or Jeanty

We did hear from Courtney Cronin, that the Bears has Jeanty above either OT and Loveland though, so it's not that hard to put together.

[Stinger226]

10 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

For sure, all we know, from other teams, is that Poles was inquiring about the price to trade up. We can't know who he was thinking of taking had the price been right. Probably Banks at 3 LOL or Jeanty

We did hear from Courtney Cronin, that the Bears has Jeanty above either OT and Loveland though, so it's not that hard to put together.

She doesn't have inside information, just guesses like anyone else. They have rated him higher but doesn't a trade was out there.

[BearFan PHX]

3 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

She doesn't have inside information, just guesses like anyone else. They have rated him higher but doesn't a trade was out there.

no, when she is giving opinions, she uses words like "I think" etc - she absolutely has many sources inside many NFL teams. She is a reporter, and when she says things as facts, she has definitely heard that information from a credible source.

She named Jeff King, director of player personel for the Bears as one of them, who confirmed a bunch of this.

[Mongo3451]

2 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

no, when she is giving opinions, she uses words like "I think" etc - she absolutely has many sources inside many NFL teams. She is a reporter, and when she says things as facts, she has definitely heard that information from a credible source.

She named Jeff King, director of player personel for the Bears as one of them, who confirmed a bunch of this.

She's the best out there...

[Stinger226]

The bears had Jeanty in for a 30 visit so it was obvious they were interested in him. He was rated one of the top 3 players in the draft. That's not inside information. They could like him more than both OTs because they weren't true LTs. This is a moot point because Jeanty was taken and they didn't move up to draft  him and they picked Loveland. So no inside information.

  Show me an example of something she reported before anyone else which would indicate inside information.  I can't find anything.

[BearFan PHX]

On 5/2/2025 at 5:15 PM, Stinger226 said:

The bears had Jeanty in for a 30 visit so it was obvious they were interested in him. He was rated one of the top 3 players in the draft. That's not inside information. They could like him more than both OTs because they weren't true LTs. This is a moot point because Jeanty was taken and they didn't move up to draft  him and they picked Loveland. So no inside information.

  Show me an example of something she reported before anyone else which would indicate inside information.  I can't find anything.

No one has inside information before the draft. She interviewed Jeff King (Bears director of Player Personel) and has some sources in Halas Hall that gave her insight to what happened in our draft room AFTER the draft was over.

She was direct and did not condition what she said with any "I think" or similar as she does when shes predicting. She simply said, as fact, that the Bears wanted Jeanty, then the two OTs, and that Loveland was 4th on their draft list.

Obviously the price to trade up was too high, and they liked Loveland. And it's easy to see why too, now that we know they were looking at TEs.

I did predict a few months ago that Kmet was not as safe as he seemed. But that was based on him vs another player. I had not considered that Laporta is a totally different KIND of TE than Kmet and Johnson would want that kind to make his offense work. In fact he kind of threw us all off on that by declaring he wasnt going to run the same offense as Detriot. I took that to mean that he might use a slot receiver to do the things he used LaPorta to do. Thats why I was talking about McMillan before the draft.

Now we got both. Loveland to play LaPorta, and Burden to play int he slot with a skill set similar to DJ Moores. I dont think that means they are redundant, I thinkj it means the defense is going to have its work cut out for trying to cover both, AND Odunze with Loveland running across the middle.

[adam]

Looks like Chubb may be a done deal soon, either 1 year $6 or $8M per Internet rumor mill. 

[Stinger226]

I just noticed where we are more interested in JK Dobbins, and  also we inquired with Seahawks on the availability of Walker Jr. Everybody is so full of it. 

[BearFan PHX]

59 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

I just noticed where we are more interested in JK Dobbins, and  also we inquired with Seahawks on the availability of Walker Jr. Everybody is so full of it. 

Before things happen, there is speculation which is often crazy, and leaks which are manipulations. Sometimes there is actual information too, but it is usually identified in ways like "internal sources say" and then you have to evaluate whether that's a clickbait liar, or a real reporter. Like for example if Adam Schefter or Ian Rappaort say it, it's probably true.

And a guy like Erik Lambert says all kinds of crap, but he doesnt claim its an actual leak. And usually he is just reposting what someone else said on Twitter, and a lot of THAT is contradictory and BS. But if he DOES claim its actual info, it could be a total lie.

[AZ54]

22 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

No one has inside information before the draft. She interviewed Jeff King (Bears director of Player Personel) and has some sources in Halas Hall that gave her insight to what happened in our draft room AFTER the draft was over.

She was direct and did not condition what she said with any "I think" or similar as she does when shes predicting. She simply said, as fact, that the Bears wanted Jeanty, then the two OTs, and that Loveland was 4th on their draft list.

Obviously the price to trade up was too high, and they liked Loveland. And it's easy to see why too, now that we know they were looking at TEs.

I did predict a few months ago that Kmet was not as safe as he seemed. But that was based on him vs another player. I had not considered that Laporta is a totally different KIND of TE than Kmet and Johnson would want that kind to make his offense work. In fact he kind of threw us all off on that by declaring he wasnt going to run the same offense as Detriot. I took that to mean that he might use a slot receiver to do the things he used LaPorta to do. Thats why I was talking about McMillan before the draft.

Now we got both. Loveland to play LaPorta, and Burden to play int he slot with a skill set similar to DJ Moores. I dont think that means they are redundant, I thinkj it means the defense is going to have its work cut out for trying to cover both, AND Odunze with Loveland running across the middle.

It all forces a defense to plan for many options in the game.  I'm curious to see how Ben uses all these talents against the Vikings defense.  If Caleb can read it quickly and get the ball into the playmakers hands these players can feast.      

[BearFan PHX]

2 hours ago, AZ54 said:

It all forces a defense to plan for many options in the game.  I'm curious to see how Ben uses all these talents against the Vikings defense.  If Caleb can read it quickly and get the ball into the playmakers hands these players can feast.      

getting guys open and then finding them quick is absolutely the name of the game, and Johnson is a genius at it. We have as good a shot of putting together a truly dangerous offense as we have had in many many years. This WR/TE room is now better than Marshall, Jeffries and Bennett. And Odunze is gonna surprise a LOT of people. We did not see him used properly last year. I think he might be our leading receiver for yards this year.