Connorbear Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Check out the link. Turner needs to be more creative in his use of Wolfe next yr. http://www.nfl.com/players/darrensproles/p...le?id=SPR711296 Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfoligno Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Yea, he is the same size, but what is your point. He is a returner (we have one) and a #3 RB that is sparingly used. Sproles had 37 carries to Wolfe's 31, but 25 of his carries came in one game when both LT and Turner were injured. Sproles only had touches on offense in 6 games this year, compared to Wolfe getting an opportunity 9 times. Sproles also had 10 catches for 31 yards, to Wolfe's 9 for 117. Sproles was also in his 2nd season. My point is, while Sproles may be as small (or smaler) than Wolfe, it doesn't prove much since he has never been more than a return man. W/ the exception of one game, Wolfe has actually received more opportunities than he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Sproles is barely used, so if Turner wants to be more creative, give Wolfe less playing time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I think putting Wolfe in motion and using him as a slot receiver would be something creative.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorbear Posted January 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Yea, he is the same size, but what is your point. He is a returner (we have one) and a #3 RB that is sparingly used. Sproles had 37 carries to Wolfe's 31, but 25 of his carries came in one game when both LT and Turner were injured. Sproles only had touches on offense in 6 games this year, compared to Wolfe getting an opportunity 9 times. Sproles also had 10 catches for 31 yards, to Wolfe's 9 for 117. Sproles was also in his 2nd season. My point is, while Sproles may be as small (or smaler) than Wolfe, it doesn't prove much since he has never been more than a return man. W/ the exception of one game, Wolfe has actually received more opportunities than he has. Many people argue that Wolfe doesn't have the size to play in the NFL. I am simply noting that, if used right (refer to the screen reception for a TD by Sproles in the Indy game) he can be successful. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfoligno Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 You mean, it isn't creative to send your midget RB up the middle? Who would have known? Hey, I agree in general, and I think we did more often see use try to be more creative w/ Wolfe in the passing game. We did get him out in space for some screens and the like. My question is, how much should we really be expecting here. Like I said, i think we were creative (albeit late in the year) in using Wolfe in the passing game. I think we were totally uncreative in using him in the run game, but at the same time, I am not sure how high our expectations should be. I personally felt this pick was a mistake, and have seen nothing yet that makes me feel it was justified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 All these comparisons to OTHER guys around his size doesnt prove anything. Why would anyone want this guy to see more time, we know he is never gonna be productive offensively on a consistent basis. As far as switching him to receiver, gmafb. Hester switching to WR was a rare occurrence. Some people need to realize Hester is not a running back and Wolfe is not a WR and they are never gonna be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorbear Posted January 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 All these comparisons to OTHER guys around his size doesnt prove anything. Why would anyone want this guy to see more time, we know he is never gonna be productive offensively on a consistent basis. As far as switching him to receiver, gmafb. Hester switching to WR was a rare occurrence. Some people need to realize Hester is not a running back and Wolfe is not a WR and they are never gonna be. I was just pointing out that his size should not be the issue and using Sproles as an example. He could be successful player if used correctly. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I was just pointing out that his size should not be the issue and using Sproles as an example. He could be successful player if used correctly. Peace What is the correct way to use him for us then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorbear Posted January 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 What is the correct way to use him for us then? Change of pace and 3rd down rb. Get him the ball in space. Do not run him up the middle in a power I formation. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 What is the correct way to use him for us then? Put him behind an offensive line that can play football at least with some moderate level of quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Put him behind an offensive line that can play football at least with some moderate level of quality. Ahead of who on the depth chart? Benson? AP? or the competition JA claims he is bringing in to compete as the starter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Ahead of who on the depth chart? Benson? AP? or the competition JA claims he is bringing in to compete as the starter? Honestly, without seeing him behind some kind of offensive line, its hard to know. IF there's no hole for a runner to go through anywhere, then it doesn't much matter where he is on the depth chart. Behind a rebuild O-Line, I wouldn't mind risking a Benson/Wolfe 1/2 combo next year (I'm not a fan of AP as the #2 back because I don't feel he gives you anything that Benson doesn't in terms of style or performance). At least in theory, Wolfe could be the kind of guy who you'd want to be the counter-weight to Benson. Benson should be the big, straight ahead, bowl over guys as he hits the hole hard type back, while Wolfe should be the guy that the defense has to chase all over the field. Both have the ability to do that physically (if Benson ever stays healthy). But behind an O-Line where whatever you do, the running back has no hole to go through and has to shake off the first hit 2 yards behind the line of scrimmage, nothing is going to work in the running game. I for one don't want to write off either of these guys based on last season, because I think that if you put LT behind the Bears' O-Line, he might have pulled off 3.4 yards a carry if he was lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Ahead of who on the depth chart? Benson? AP? or the competition JA claims he is bringing in to compete as the starter? I still say we should not rule out the possibility the Bears may choose to have 4 RBs on the roster next year, not unheard of, and we will just have to see. I do not agree that it is written in stone that Wolfe will never be a success in the NFL as a RB. I would like to see what Wolfe can do as a return man if Hester ever becomes a big weapon as a WR ala Steve Smith. If he becomes a top notch WR option, what would G Wolfe be able to do returning kicks? He reminds me somewhat of Dennis Gentry, a 5'8" 181 lb WR/RB/KR who played for us 11 years and was a valuable player in his role with the Bears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorbear Posted January 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I still say we should not rule out the possibility the Bears may choose to have 4 RBs on the roster next year, not unheard of, and we will just have to see. I do not agree that it is written in stone that Wolfe will never be a success in the NFL as a RB. I would like to see what Wolfe can do as a return man if Hester ever becomes a big weapon as a WR ala Steve Smith. If he becomes a top notch WR option, what would G Wolfe be able to do returning kicks? He reminds me somewhat of Dennis Gentry, a 5'8" 181 lb WR/RB/KR who played for us 11 years and was a valuable player in his role with the Bears. If Devin has a bigger role in the offense (and is successful) I could see his role on special teams being reduced. Most likely they will limit him to punt return as he is a much, much better punt returner. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Wolfe is a RB/WR and return man. He is more of a WR then he is a RB though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 I want to see Wolfe after a full offseason with Rusty. Berrian has changed his physique quite a bit in the last 2 years and if Wolfe can add similar muscle mass without losing too much quickness and speed I think he'll be fine. I like what he brings to the team in open space but he can't get tackled by a pinkie finger every time he goes up the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Wolfe is a RB/WR and return man. He is more of a WR then he is a RB though. Since when is he a WR? Did you appoint him WR? As far as AP not bringing anything more than Benson style wise, how about receiving. AP is a solid receiving back for us a la Faulk in New England. Benson has no hands so he will never bring that kind of threat. All this talk about Wolfe being a WR is speculation. He has never played WR in the NFL and Im not even sure if he did at NIU but even if he did that doesnt translate to the NFL. Wolfe may have some tools he can use in the NFL but none that help us. AP is a better receiving back and obviously we dont need him to return kicks. What purpose does he really serve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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