Frank Ragnow, Lions Center, unexpectedly retired. Huge blow to their O-Line. They had already lost Zeitler, so 40% of their O-Line is gone. 

I don't know why he waited until after free agency and the draft (maybe he tried to give it a go), but either way, you don't just replace an All-Pro Center with anyone. This feels like a huge offensive regression coming from Detroit this year. Goff with pressure up the gut is the worst for him because he is not very mobile.

1 hour ago, adam said:

Frank Ragnow, Lions Center, unexpectedly retired. Huge blow to their O-Line. They had already lost Zeitler, so 40% of their O-Line is gone. 

I don't know why he waited until after free agency and the draft (maybe he tried to give it a go), but either way, you don't just replace an All-Pro Center with anyone. This feels like a huge offensive regression coming from Detroit this year. Goff with pressure up the gut is the worst for him because he is not very mobile.

He has two more yrs on a contract that pays him a totaal of 30 mil but none of it was guaranteed and was trying to get the brass to rework the deal to give him some guaraanteed money. He was going to hold out but choose retirement to force their hand. 

The Lions GM is nortorious for letting good players l go instead of paying big money. J Jackson and D Swift were a part of the GMs history. They drafted Ratledge and now have him listed as the starting OC. Lions back loaded Franks contract to have 30 mil left that he could cut him once he reached that. He saves 23 mil by letting him go now. 

The situation is actually worse than just Ragnow being gone. Mahongany is now playing LG , a 6th round pick last year and at RG is Graham Glasgow, a 10 vet is now playing RG. That is 3 new starters in the IOL.

2 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

He has two more yrs on a contract that pays him a totaal of 30 mil but none of it was guaranteed and was trying to get the brass to rework the deal to give him some guaraanteed money. He was going to hold out but choose retirement to force their hand. 

The Lions GM is nortorious for letting good players l go instead of paying big money. J Jackson and D Swift were a part of the GMs history. They drafted Ratledge and now have him listed as the starting OC. Lions back loaded Franks contract to have 30 mil left that he could cut him once he reached that. He saves 23 mil by letting him go now. 

The situation is actually worse than just Ragnow being gone. Mahongany is now playing LG , a 6th round pick last year and at RG is Graham Glasgow, a 10 vet is now playing RG. That is 3 new starters in the IOL.

Good info, I didn't even pay attention to his deal.

GB just released Alexander. He was their CB1, even if he missed some time with injuries, that is a huge hole to fill post June 1.

5 hours ago, adam said:

GB just released Alexander. He was their CB1, even if he missed some time with injuries, that is a huge hole to fill post June 1.

I was thinking surely they planned for this but this doesn't seem like much of a plan...

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2025/06/09/jaire-alexander-release-green-bay-packers-defense-2025-analysis/84112283007/

"In terms of true cornerbacks, the Packers’ depth chart now consists of a former fifth-round pick in Hobbs, a sixth-rounder in Hadden (by Kansas City), three seventh-rounders in Valentine, King and Hadden, and a former UDFA in Nixon."

As Luther Burden said on his twitter when he heard this...

"Uh Oh"

Definitely their defensive backfield is suspect. Minny has  basically a rookie QB and the Lions have two new OL starters with new OC and DC. The stars are lining up for us to move the standings. 

17 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

As Luther Burden said on his twitter when he heard this...

"Uh Oh"

Burden would've been matched up against CB3, now CB4. Across the board, teams are going to be able to throw against GB like they did when Alexander was out. 

6-1 with Alexander (only loss to PHI)
5-5 without Alexander

It looks like GB is going to be more like an 8 to 9 win team this year at best. 

6 hours ago, adam said:

Burden would've been matched up against CB3, now CB4. Across the board, teams are going to be able to throw against GB like they did when Alexander was out. 

6-1 with Alexander (only loss to PHI)
5-5 without Alexander

It looks like GB is going to be more like an 8 to 9 win team this year at best. 

It's time for the packs winning streak to come to an end. They dont have Favre or Rodgers. Theyre just another team now.

we are 12 games under .500 with the Pack all time. Let's start getting that back to even at least.

22 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

It's time for the packs winning streak to come to an end. They dont have Favre or Rodgers. Theyre just another team now.

we are 12 games under .500 with the Pack all time. Let's start getting that back to even at least.

against the NFC North/Central:

Love 8-10
Rodgers 59-25-1
Favre 82-44

I just love how Packers fan put Love on some pedestal like he is anywhere close to Favre or Rodgers. Love is a .500 QB (literally 21-21) and has a losing record against the North. He is also 8-14 on the road but somehow a top franchise QB. That does not compute.

38 minutes ago, adam said:

against the NFC North/Central:

Love 8-10
Rodgers 59-25-1
Favre 82-44

I just love how Packers fan put Love on some pedestal like he is anywhere close to Favre or Rodgers. Love is a .500 QB (literally 21-21) and has a losing record against the North. He is also 8-14 on the road but somehow a top franchise QB. That does not compute.

He's a good QB but nothing special.

1 hour ago, Stinger226 said:

He's a good QB but nothing special.

Over the last 2 seasons (his only starting ones) he comps strongly between Geno Smith and Tua. Basically, if Geno and Tua had a baby, it would be Jordan Love. 

Looking around the league, this year looks like it is going to be extremely competitive. I would say there are 20 competitive teams (w/ the Bears being one of them) that all have a shot at the playoffs. Then out of those 20, I would say 7 have a realistic shot at the Super Bowl. 

1. PHI 
2. KC
3. BAL
4. DET
5. BUF
6. LAR
7. LAC
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8. TB (lost OC to JAX, easier division)
9. HOU (Easy division but)
10. WAS (was last year a fluke?)
11. DEN (was last year a fluke?)
12. GB (No secondary)
13. CIN (will they have a defense?)
14. PIT (which Rodgers will show up?)
15. SEA (Darnold vs Geno)
16. SF (Purdy without Deebo)
17. DAL (Can Dak rebound?)
18. MIN (depends on McCarthy)
19. ATL (depends on Penix, easier division)

I agree with that but it seems every year one suprise team bounces that no one expected. ( as far as top 7)

I think CIN  could be that type of suprise.

2 hours ago, adam said:

Looking around the league, this year looks like it is going to be extremely competitive. I would say there are 20 competitive teams (w/ the Bears being one of them) that all have a shot at the playoffs. Then out of those 20, I would say 7 have a realistic shot at the Super Bowl. 

1. PHI 
2. KC
3. BAL
4. DET
5. BUF
6. LAR
7. LAC
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8. TB (lost OC to JAX, easier division)
9. HOU (Easy division but)
10. WAS (was last year a fluke?)
11. DEN (was last year a fluke?)
12. GB (No secondary)
13. CIN (will they have a defense?)
14. PIT (which Rodgers will show up?)
15. SEA (Darnold vs Geno)
16. SF (Purdy without Deebo)
17. DAL (Can Dak rebound?)
18. MIN (depends on McCarthy)
19. ATL (depends on Penix, easier division)

I would swap SF and Texans.  Also swap GB and Pitt.  One more thing, I think we'll be better than GB and equal to the Queens.

1 hour ago, Mongo3451 said:

I would swap SF and Texans.  Also swap GB and Pitt.  One more thing, I think we'll be better than GB and equal to the Queens.

I know I numbered them, but that was more for a count than a ranking.

8 minutes ago, adam said:

I know I numbered them, but that was more for a count than a ranking.

🤘

2 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

I agree with that but it seems every year one suprise team bounces that no one expected. ( as far as top 7)

I think CIN  could be that type of suprise.

I was thinking JAX, new HC/Playcaller, bad division.

CIN has to play BAL and PIT 4 times a year. I think it will come down to their defense. They are going to score 20+ every game.