From Bad to Good

[Mongo3451]

20 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

I shared it because it addressed exactly what Mongo was talking about on the 2nd round picks. Plus retired and just out of the hospital , have a lot of free time. Oh by the way I dont care for Dr Phil and you subscribe to that. 

((I just rewatched  it and now understand why you were whining about it. He did not call you stupid he was just refering to a group of fans blowing (not being signed ) out of proportion.  He even apoligized for using a word you use all the time to degrad people. ))

If you look back at my post, I was not overreacting.  As a matter of fact, it was hopeful that Poles would be creative.  This dude is calling unknowledgeable, butt hurt, fans and I ain't that dude.  Anyway, this guy made the video on the premise that he expected the second rounders to be signed before June 19th.  Being that was mandatory minicamp, I wonder what his thoughts were before yesterday.  It's obvious from his statements that he expected results sooner than they occurred.  That's I why I blamed the Seahawks for digging in and log jamming the process.  It just takes a trickle before the dam breaks.  Glad it happened.  I don't expect Burden to take much longer, now that Trapilo and Shemar are in.

[BearFan PHX]

9 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:

If you look back at my post, I was not overreacting.  As a matter of fact, it was hopeful that Poles would be creative.  This dude is calling unknowledgeable, butt hurt, fans and I ain't that dude.  Anyway, this guy made the video on the premise that he expected the second rounders to be signed before June 19th.  Being that was mandatory minicamp, I wonder what his thoughts were before yesterday.  It's obvious from his statements that he expected results sooner than they occurred.  That's I why I blamed the Seahawks for digging in and log jamming the process.  It just takes a trickle before the dam breaks.  Glad it happened.  I don't expect Burden to take much longer, now that Trapilo and Shemar are in.

I mostly agree with all of this. You definitely were not overreacting. It was a real problem, and thanks should go to the 49ers and the DT that signed and broke the logjam below the #10 spot.

There was real progress here in the players' direction. 87% guaranteed rather than the 40% that was usual before. And good for the players!

This still leaves picks 3 thru 9 in limbo though, including Burden. I hope he signs quickly, but Im not sure the SF DT signing will affect the players taken above him? I do hope we get him signed quickly, but Im not sure what will happen.

The video Stinger posted as a "rebuttal" to what "I said" (when I was really just repeating every journalist on earth that was talking about this story) was crazy, and as you pointed out Mongo, and I had missed this, the video was a month ago, so not even relevant. But time had already proven that video guy wrong.

Im not sure Stinger even understood what that guy in the video was even saying. 

Anyway, we got Trapilo and Turner signed, and those were the two I was most worried about.

I do think Burden has the possibility of being a head case (like so many great WRs) so i wonder

1) if he will find a middle in this, or hold out for fully guaranteed unless or until someone above him signs for less

2) if he will be able to get into the lineup if he misses more time with the time

3) if not getting enough targets will sour him and make him a malcontent

Im not predicting anything, these are just my concerns with him.

[BearFan PHX]

OK and just as I am typing this...

The Bears blinked, and Burden has signed a fully guaranteed deal.

Glad to have him in the fold!!

[Stinger226]

5 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

That is crazy.

I said that there was a logjam in the second rounders because the first two had been given fully guaranteed contracts, and now agents were holding out for the same for their clients.

Thats been backed up by pretty much everyone. i didnt think it was controversial at all.

Then you took my post, reposted it and responded with a video of a guy who said that was all made up and didnt exist, and was just idiots on the internet.

He was wrong, you are wrong. You said you were amplifying what Mongo said, but Mongo also knew there was a logjam.

I posted a tweet from Ian Rappaport about it. If that doesnt make it true, I dont know what does.

The rest of this is just an attempt to cover your stupid and wrong video with some personal nonsense.

I dont know why you listened to that moron that no ones ever heard of before, but he was 100% wrong.

Last year 2nd round picks were getting 40% guaranteed, now when the logjam broke it was for a deal where the player got 87% guaranteed. I said the players were likely to win this, and it seems they have.

2nd round picks above the 10th taken, where SF signed the DT, are still holding out for guaranteed money, including Burden.

Its a real thing - this no name you posted is the only one i ever heard say it wasnt true, well and you.

I truly dont get you dude, half the time youre reasonable, and the other half its this absolute nonsense and you dig in and start defending it like a 4th grade argument.

EDIT - Is it possible that you didnt understand what the guy in the video you posted said? Were you drinking maybe? Is that what this is all about?

How long you going to beat a deadhorse?

I reacted to Mongo's statement (I'm growing weary of the second rounders holding out.) I wasnt saying Mongo himself overracted . just to notion some fans in general are.. Right on the video tltle  he talks about fans thinking players are holding out. It was players still in negotiations,not a holdout.( iI they dont show up to camp, that's a holdout.). He was not debating the football world about the whole conversation. It was a simple point from people that interacted with his account on Twitter and YouTube that he answered to. 

 

Not everyone writes a short story  about a topic when they post to a subject like you do. This was never suggestioned to be a 4000 word essay. 

I have posted a disclaimer on another thread , so you can stop this dislusional premise that I am married to everything someone says or posts that I share. 

I will try to remember to post the disclaimer on every video I share;  so you can stop your endless  whining.  :definition:   (complaining or inclined to complain in a childish or petulant manner)

[BearFan PHX]

Ok, so now you are saying they didnt holdout because it wasnt camp yet, and every other sports reporter except you didnt understand that camp hadnt started yet. And that one guy in your video is the only one who gets it.

The rest of us knew what we were talking about. I promise you.

The rest of this is just more flailing - theres no need to address it.

Oh, and by the way, I used the word "roadblock" anyway, and you put this video not on its own, but after my comments so it was some kind of rebuttal.

Just give it UP already. You were out there on a limb AGAIN. the first step in fixing things is admitting you have a problem.

[Stinger226]

e·go trip

/ˈēɡō ˌtrip/

noun

informal

 

1. an activity done in order to increase one's sense of self-importance.

[Mongo3451]

On 7/18/2025 at 12:22 AM, jason said:

Which is why I hate the TE pick this year.

I like Kmet, but he doesn't have the wiggle that Loveland has.  Cole has great hands, but rarely makes progress after the catch.  Loveland is a weapon that can line up wide.  I love the pick.  He should be a difference maker.

[BearFan PHX]

4 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

e·go trip

/ˈēɡō ˌtrip/

noun

informal

 

1. an activity done in order to increase one's sense of self-importance.

you mean like posting TTNL clips from the draft day when they werent happy with Loveland at the moment he was picked even though they are now?

Or maybe posting nonsense as a "rebuttal" to my simply saying there was a logjam in the 2nd round picks? (which there WAS!)

Or maybe even posting this post youve just posted here?

If you need to win a fight on this board so bad, my advice is to wait until you have a winning hand. Just taking wild swings with no purpose behind them except to win is whats making you lose?

[Stinger226]

1 hour ago, Mongo3451 said:

I like Kmet, but he doesn't have the wiggle that Loveland has.  Cole has great hands, but rarely makes progress after the catch.  Loveland is a weapon that can line up wide.  I love the pick.  He should be a difference maker.

There has been a lot of chat about Loveland and Kmet , they are different type of TEs. Some think its one or the other. We have one of the brightest O minds to come along in years , he is all about weapons. Used 12 personal third most in the league. He only had one TE that could catch in Detroit. Its about options, DJ-Rome-Burder-Loveland-Kmet-Swift and to fit in Zaccheaus-Duevernay-DJ-Monangai. 

I think Loveland will be a star but it may not upload this year. Coming off and injury, has yet to hit the field, no reps with Caleb. Brock Bowers blew the league as a rookie but was the only quality weapon on the Raiders. Colston has a different path but will eventually get there.

Kmet is the best catching TE in league the last two yrs by % of catches. BJ will not ignore him.

Burdern has yet to get involved in the offense. I think he will be the big play guy on the offense. BJ in Detroit spread the ball around with less weapons. I think he will be third in receptions by WR.

No one knows how the reps will be distributed to all his weapons. BJ choose the Bears because of Caleb and now he will feed all of them. This is all a good thing, I love the idea of having too many mouths  to feed. For some reason some people thinks thats a problem.

[Stinger226]

39 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

you mean like posting TTNL clips from the draft day when they werent happy with Loveland at the moment he was picked even though they are now?

Or maybe posting nonsense as a "rebuttal" to my simply saying there was a logjam in the 2nd round picks? (which there WAS!)

Or maybe even posting this post youve just posted here?

If you need to win a fight on this board so bad, my advice is to wait until you have a winning hand. Just taking wild swings with no purpose behind them except to win is whats making you lose?

A narcissist is someone who exhibits narcissistic personality traits, characterized by an inflated sense of self-importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration.

[BearFan PHX]

13 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

A narcissist is someone who exhibits narcissistic personality traits, characterized by an inflated sense of self-importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration.

LOL you dont know me, but youre exhibiting the traits of an asshole. Also it seems like you might be drunk a lot? Any comment on that?

[BearFan PHX]

17 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

This is all a good thing, I love the idea of having too many mouths  to feed. For some reason some people thinks thats a problem.

It never a problem in the abstract, but when you have a salary cap, you might want to allocate dollars to another area, like, say pass rush.

[Stinger226]

1 hour ago, BearFan PHX said:

LOL you dont know me, but youre exhibiting the traits of an asshole. Also it seems like you might be drunk a lot? Any comment on that?

You make my point every time you attack me. You are right I dont know you and you dont know me but you have no problem saying i act drunk all the time, act like an asshole, stupid, make no sense and  the the famous BearsFan PHX comment ( you are a pedohpile ). Things I attack you with are (you have a big ego) (you always have to have the last word) (think you are smarter than everyone else) ( you are a pessimist)

For some reason you are a war with me. You have something negative to say 75% of the time. Blow something I said into a delusional array of comments putting words in my mouth about I think this or I believe that.  

99% of the fans on here never get personal or berate people and they sometimes totally disagree with me. 

Working construstion sites all the time there was always a few guys that went around critizing everyone and always patting themselfs on the back and telling everyone how good they were.  I guess discussion boards arent any different than any other aspect of life. 

When I worked I tried to get along with everyone, tried to be funny , scacastic a lot, and just do my job. The few times a person crossed the line, I broke their nose and the behavior stopped.. Thank God 50 years of plumbing  was pretty good for me and no reason to act any different now.

Stop  this war and lets enjoy what great things are about to happen to Bears this year.