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[Stinger226]

Even if we dont solve the LT issue, there is one way to overcome it. Quick throws, running the ball. In the Miami game, Jones blew a block and the guy had a clear path to the QB, we threw a TD pass on that play.

[BearFan PHX]

4 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

Even if we dont solve the LT issue, there is one way to overcome it. Quick throws, running the ball. In the Miami game, Jones blew a block and the guy had a clear path to the QB, we threw a TD pass on that play.

there are lots of things you can do to help a bad LT, but it limits your playbook and therefore Calebs growth as well.

If the LT is a problem, its not OK, its a big problem. And this is why I was saying we needed to draft a LT early.

[Stinger226]

20 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

there are lots of things you can do to help a bad LT, but it limits your playbook and therefore Calebs growth as well.

If the LT is a problem, its not OK, its a big problem. And this is why I was saying we needed to draft a LT early.

There's a difference between bad and mediocre. BJ is setting a high bar and that's a good thing but until I see the finish product, I'm going to wait until I paint it a problem. 

Braxton last year was by an NFL standard, an average LT. Lots of teams are unsettled at this time with their OL.

[Mongo3451]

4 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

Even if we dont solve the LT issue, there is one way to overcome it. Quick throws, running the ball. In the Miami game, Jones blew a block and the guy had a clear path to the QB, we threw a TD pass on that play.

Play action is the number one way to slow a pass rush.  The defenders can't go until they determine the runner doesn't have the ball.  It also allows the offensive lineman to initiate immediate contact.  It's where Goff made his money last year.  It also plays to the strengths of the right side and our 12 personnel mismatch.  Don't get me started if we develop a read option package.  That would an immediate advantage, as it was not something Goff could do. 

[DABEARSDABOMB]

29 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:

Play action is the number one way to slow a pass rush.  The defenders can't go until they determine the runner doesn't have the ball.  It also allows the offensive lineman to initiate immediate contact.  It's where Goff made his money last year.  It also plays to the strengths of the right side and our 12 personnel mismatch.  Don't get me started if we develop a read option package.  That would an immediate advantage, as it was not something Goff could do. 

Agree - I also think the comments on Wright are to send a message and try to get him to reach elite talent level. He is a good to ok RT and has shown it - but he hasn’t been great despite having the tools. I think he got comfy with the softness in standards from previous regime and than he showed up taking things for granted. It isn’t that he has been bad at camp - it’s that the oline coach thinks he can be great and expects that - and not just some of the time - all of the time. The great ots are great because they play with that high level consistency ALL the time. 

[DABEARSDABOMB]

Just now, DABEARSDABOMB said:

Agree - I also think the comments on Wright are to send a message and try to get him to reach elite talent level. He is a good to ok RT and has shown it - but he hasn’t been great despite having the tools. I think he got comfy with the softness in standards from previous regime and than he showed up taking things for granted. It isn’t that he has been bad at camp - it’s that the oline coach thinks he can be great and expects that - and not just some of the time - all of the time. The great ots are great because they play with that high level consistency ALL the time. 

The inverse with that - on the LT side - I think at bet they are seeing mediocre play at this point - and at times the mediocre slides to bad. I think they are also sending a message here - but it is different than the Wright message. They are trying to see who can raise the floor - for a lack of a better term - and also I think trying to push and rebuild Jones to try and find a bar that is at another level than he previously played at while also trying to coach up depth and see how much they can push Trapillo to see where he is…but Jones is the only one of the current 3 with the pure tools you want at LT. But having been hurt - he hasn’t been able to put on the strength they need him to do and that will take time. Its pretty clear he will ultimately be the starter - but I think they are setting a bar to make ish him to put in all the work and than do same thing in between games etc. It’s clear technique is being emphasized heavily too.