First Depth Chart

[adam]

Might mean nothing, but here are some interesting developments:

1. Loveland and Kmet both as "starters"
2. Jones over Trapilo at starting LT
3. Monangai as RB6, Homer still RB3
4. Duvernay as WR4, Burden WR5
5. Bagent as QB2, Keenum QB3

6. 3x DTs listed as starters (Jarret, Dexter, Billings)
7. Sewell over Hyppolite at LB
8. Stevenson as CB2 over Smith and Wright

[Stinger226]

I dont think that list has been updated, is there a date on it? 

Here is a 8/5/2025 depth chart from Ourlads. It has Jones at 1 but I dont think this changes until we get thru the preseason. With Kmet getting hurt it now lists Loveland at 1.

https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/CHI

[Stinger226]

I dont know if its just me, but I havent seen you around for awhile, is everything ok?

[adam]

2 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

I dont know if its just me, but I havent seen you around for awhile, is everything ok?

Work travel, limited access to internet while on site. I am back now until early September.

[adam]

24 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

I dont think that list has been updated, is there a date on it? 

Here is a 8/5/2025 depth chart from Ourlads. It has Jones at 1 but I dont think this changes until we get thru the preseason. With Kmet getting hurt it now lists Loveland at 1.

https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/CHI

The one I posted was from the Bears. I don't know where Ourlads gets theirs from.

[ASHKUM BEAR]

1 hour ago, adam said:

The one I posted was from the Bears. I don't know where Ourlads gets theirs from.

The Bears left out Tysheem Johnson FS Oregon.  He should be a stud, makes men wonder if they are trying to hide him and stash him on ps to start.

[adam]

2 hours ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

The Bears left out Tysheem Johnson FS Oregon.  He should be a stud, makes men wonder if they are trying to hide him and stash him on ps to start.

Here is on there, all the way to the right, 7th Safety right now.

[AZ54]

If there is any thought toward trading Braxton before the start of the season we will need to showcase him in the preseason.  Keeping him listed as the starter helps even if everyone sees through the deception.   Poles can still say he is healthy and our starter but he’s working his way back to full strength.  

[BearFan PHX]

23 minutes ago, AZ54 said:

If there is any thought toward trading Braxton before the start of the season we will need to showcase him in the preseason.  Keeping him listed as the starter helps even if everyone sees through the deception.   Poles can still say he is healthy and our starter but he’s working his way back to full strength.  

certainly a possibility.

I also think the depth chart today isn't real. I heard somewhere (was it on CHGO?) that the coaches may not even have participated in it. Whatever the case, it will change over the next few weeks for sure.

[Mongo3451]

I don't think deception is in play.  I believe Braxton is winning the job. 

Would make for a great trade in season if Trapillo develops. 

[Stinger226]

One of the beat writers said that the rookies were intentional listed out of starters  roles to create position competion. Loveland was the only listed starter because Kmet was hurt. I seen a CHGO post that said Cole's injury was not serious and avoided a long term injury. Has anyone seen anything about that?

[Stinger226]

42 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:

I don't think deception is in play.  I believe Braxton is winning the job. 

Would make for a great trade in season if Trapillo develops. 

Im not sure until we see preseason games they actually will hear who is the leading canadate to start at LT, they are dividing the first team reps. With Kiran hurt, Im sure it takes him out of that competition.

[BearFan PHX]

28 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

One of the beat writers said that the rookies were intentional listed out of starters  roles to create position competion.

That sounds right. There is no way Burden is so far back, and i think Trapilo is ahead of Jones, but thats just a gut feeling.

[AZ54]

5 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

certainly a possibility.

I also think the depth chart today isn't real. I heard somewhere (was it on CHGO?) that the coaches may not even have participated in it. Whatever the case, it will change over the next few weeks for sure.

Ben said he made the depth chart with input from the coaches.  He also don't put a lot of stock into it.  

[Mongo3451]

4 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

That sounds right. There is no way Burden is so far back, and i think Trapilo is ahead of Jones, but thats just a gut feeling.

I'll disagree on both.  The are two guys killing in camp above Burden.  Burden will continue to rise though, when he gets up to speed.  Braxton Jones is the incumbent and must be clearly beaten. That has not happened as of yet.  

[BearFan PHX]

56 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:

I'll disagree on both.  The are two guys killing in camp above Burden.  Burden will continue to rise though, when he gets up to speed.  Braxton Jones is the incumbent and must be clearly beaten. That has not happened as of yet.  

 

all true, but I dont think that depth chart will stay that way long - I really think it's more a matter of having to provide one before the preseason game, and less about communicating anything about what the coaches plan to do opening day.

Its SO tantilizing because we all want answers to those questions, and here is something that looks like a fact - but I dont think it really is. I need to see it myself anyway to have an actual opinion on the depth chart, and unfortunately I dont think the preseason is going to give us that.

as for Trapilo and Burden, it's all good that we disagree, since it's just a gut instinct anyway at this point. I don't have any real info. Maybe if I saw the players I'd be all in on Jones? I have no idea. But I do know that Jones is in the last year of his deal, and Trapilo is in the first year of his rookie deal, and consistency on the OL is really important, so that tells me Trapilo has the edge if they're close.

But I havent seen them play this year, so maybe Id have a strong opinion for one or the other if I had.

Stinger said some beat writer said they purposely put the rookies behind for this initial depth chart. Cool. That may be another way of what you're saying too - that they have to keep growing to earn it.

In any case, no matter who wins these battles, I dont think this depth chart means anything real?

EDIT - and to your point about Burden, I assume you have JP Richardson as one of the ones ahead of Burden, but he is listed as "other" behind Burden.

At WR, the 1st stringers are Moore and Odunze
The 2nd stringers are Zaccheaus and Duverney
The 3rd stringers are Burden and Boykin
And then Richardson, Scott, Toure, Alexander, Jackson and Walker are "other"

At RB, 1st string is Swift
2nd string is Johnson
3rd string is Homer
and Wheeler, Monangai and Hankins are "other"

So I dont think this depth chart is a real report on what the coaches are thinking right now. And that makes sense. The competition is still going on, so why praise and punish the competitors? Instead they come up with a generalized "rookies not named Loveland are put down on the list for now" rule. It's not a glimpse into how people are doing, it's just some BS, and we are SO hungry for info (myself included) that we look to it, but i dont think its got any real info.
 

[ASHKUM BEAR]

12 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

 

all true, but I dont think that depth chart will stay that way long - I really think it's more a matter of having to provide one before the preseason game, and less about communicating anything about what the coaches plan to do opening day.

Its SO tantilizing because we all want answers to those questions, and here is something that looks like a fact - but I dont think it really is. I need to see it myself anyway to have an actual opinion on the depth chart, and unfortunately I dont think the preseason is going to give us that.

as for Trapilo and Burden, it's all good that we disagree, since it's just a gut instinct anyway at this point. I don't have any real info. Maybe if I saw the players I'd be all in on Jones? I have no idea. But I do know that Jones is in the last year of his deal, and Trapilo is in the first year of his rookie deal, and consistency on the OL is really important, so that tells me Trapilo has the edge if they're close.

But I havent seen them play this year, so maybe Id have a strong opinion for one or the other if I had.

Stinger said some beat writer said they purposely put the rookies behind for this initial depth chart. Cool. That may be another way of what you're saying too - that they have to keep growing to earn it.

In any case, no matter who wins these battles, I dont think this depth chart means anything real?
 

BJ said before camp started no one is a starter, you have to earn it.  Starters from last year are equal as everyone in his eyes. Even this week BJ said it wasnt official. 

[BearFan PHX]

3 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

BJ said before camp started no one is a starter, you have to earn it.  Starters from last year are equal as everyone in his eyes. Even this week BJ said it wasnt official. 

totally agree, and I think thats why the order here is purposefully not making any real comment on who is winning or losing the camp battles. I mean no way Monanagi is behind Homer.

The league makes them put out a depth chart, and so they did, but i think they did it in a way that tells everyone "none of this is necessarily real"

[ASHKUM BEAR]

3 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

totally agree, and I think thats why the order here is purposefully not making any real comment on who is winning or losing the camp battles. I mean no way Monanagi is behind Homer.

The league makes them put out a depth chart, and so they did, but i think they did it in a way that tells everyone "none of this is necessarily real"

Right, plus they can watch Braxton game one play against Miami's best.  Trapilo has and can use the time.  As all rookies can. 

[BearFan PHX]

5 hours ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

Right, plus they can watch Braxton game one play against Miami's best.  Trapilo has and can use the time.  As all rookies can. 

Thats an interesting battle. We know what Braxton is and isnt, but you gotta test Trpilo under fire to see if he can handle it.

I feel like this is Trapilos job to win or lose on his own merit, I dont imagine Jones coming out radically different than he's been and playing himself into a new contract.

I mean just the fact that Poles has spent a 3rd rounder and then a 2nd rounder on the position the last two years should tell us what they think of Braxton's future.

If Trapilo cant handle the upper tier of NFL Edge rushers, then maybe Jones gets the job, but if Trapilo shows anything at all, it's his job. Jones is almost certainly gone by next year, so even if Jones edges Trapilo out by a little, it'll still be Trapilo's job - and he will grow and gain chemistry with the other guys going into the future.

[Stinger226]

2 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

Thats an interesting battle. We know what Braxton is and isnt, but you gotta test Trpilo under fire to see if he can handle it.

I feel like this is Trapilos job to win or lose on his own merit, I dont imagine Jones coming out radically different than he's been and playing himself into a new contract.

I mean just the fact that poles has spend a 3rd rounder and then a 2nd rounder on the position tells you what they think of Braxton's future.

If Trapilo cant handle the upper tier of NFL Edge rushers, then maybe Jones gets the job, but if Trapilo shows anything at all, it's his job. Jones is almost certainly gone by next year, so even if jones edges Trapilo out by a little, it'll be Trapilo's job - and he will grow and gain chemistry with the other guys going into the future.

He will play the best player at each position, If its Jones, he wont care about whether he will be here next year. BJ doesnt have a (I drafted him bias). Its who performs better now. He has praised Ozzy, so that may give a hint on who is ahead but it will be the preseason play that dictates that.

[BearFan PHX]

1 hour ago, Stinger226 said:

He will play the best player at each position, If its Jones, he wont care about whether he will be here next year.

how do you know that?

i contend that if Jones is slightly better than Trapilo he will still play Trapilo so that Trapilo grows and the line gets experience going forward into the future.

They're building toward a Superbowl, and so every decision has to be in line with that. Not winning one more game this year, and then starting over next year. That's poor strategy.

And ask yourself, who would be better by week 6 if you start them each from week 1? What if Jones is a little better now, but by midseason you think Trapilo will grow into a better option if he plays? I think that's how football teams look at this stuff, especially when it comes to rookies who can change their level of ability quickly from green to getting it in a few games. Weve all seen it before, playing the green rookie with upside over the known vet who might be better right now.

Now if Trapilo is terrible, or Jones is amazing, then all bets are off. But if they are at all close, Trapilo gets the job.

[Stinger226]

2 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

how do you know that?

i contend that if Jones is slightly better than Trapilo he will still play Trapilo so that Trapilo grows and the line gets experience going forward into the future.

They're building toward a Superbowl, and so every decision has to be in line with that. Not winning one more game this year, and then starting over next year. That's poor strategy.

And ask yourself, who would be better by week 6 if you start them each from week 1? What if Jones is a little better now, but by midseason you think Trapilo will grow into a better option if he plays? I think that's how football teams look at this stuff, especially when it comes to rookies who can change their level of ability quickly from green to getting it in a few games. Weve all seen it before, playing the green rookie with upside over the known vet who might be better right now.

Now if Trapilo is terrible, or Jones is amazing, then all bets are off. But if they are at all close, Trapilo gets the job.

How do you know that BJ will go with a rookie changing positions over a 3 yr starter? Its just mine and your opinion. I go by what BJ said that every position was open competition and best man wins. If Jones does win the competition and I am not saying he will, BJ will play Jones. 

Every year there are injuries and Ozzy will get playing time. Jones has missed games the last two years. Ozzy will get to show his stuff.

[Mongo3451]

10 hours ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

Right, plus they can watch Braxton game one play against Miami's best.  Trapilo has and can use the time.  As all rookies can. 

I wouldn't be surprised if Braxton doesn't play this week.

[Mongo3451]

10 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

EDIT - and to your point about Burden, I assume you have JP Richardson as one of the ones ahead of Burden, but he is listed as "other" behind Burden.

At WR, the 1st stringers are Moore and Odunze
The 2nd stringers are Zaccheaus and Duverney

No, it's Zacheaus and Duverney as of now.  They are clearly showing Scott the door.  Now, I'm not saying they'll get more reps in games than Burden.  But those dudes will get the start if of one of the first stringers go down.  Once Burden gets his reps in, he should push one aside.  Love the depth at the position. 

Back to OL.  Many believe Trapillo will win the LT spot due to his draft status.  We need to remember that he was moved to RT in college because he struggled at LT.  Yes, that was early in his college career and he never moved back, so we don't know if he would've excelled there or not.  He's gonna get a good long look Sunday and I can't wait to observe.  I personally think Braxton should be the day one starter if 100!  It's the safest choice.