I think Caleb and the offense are going to be all right. I dont know how many weeks that is going to take. It might be a bit though.

I do worry about the LT and the Pass Rush a lot though. I hope they come through.

1 hour ago, AZ54 said:

Edit:  I should add that the execution in both 2min scenarios in the game should give us all hope.  Regardless of starters/backups the organization and execution there is a good sign that things are going to be different. 

Thayer was talking about that last week, saying that some young QBs thrive in that scenario due having less time to think.

9 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

I think Caleb and the offense are going to be all right. I dont know how many weeks that is going to take. It might be a bit though.

I do worry about the LT and the Pass Rush a lot though. I hope they come through.

I watched this video and with his all-22 shots it makes me feel much more confident in our team.  This is a kind of a long review with him mostly talking but I link my sources.  He doesn't review a lot of plays per se but there are many clips where you can see the coverage was pretty good.  We don't see a lot of blown assignments.  The pass rush was bad as we know.  Offense the Oline looked good.  It was Caleb with some poor decisions which is what many here thought.  Caleb can grow out of that with more experience with the scheme and more of Ben Johnson in his ear.  

We have 2 weeks to prepare for Minn and I'm feeling better about that game.  

22 minutes ago, AZ54 said:

I watched this video and with his all-22 shots it makes me feel much more confident in our team.  This is a kind of a long review with him mostly talking but I link my sources.  He doesn't review a lot of plays per se but there are many clips where you can see the coverage was pretty good.  We don't see a lot of blown assignments.  The pass rush was bad as we know.  Offense the Oline looked good.  It was Caleb with some poor decisions which is what many here thought.  Caleb can grow out of that with more experience with the scheme and more of Ben Johnson in his ear.  

We have 2 weeks to prepare for Minn and I'm feeling better about that game.  

did you mean to post a link? I havent seen any all 22 yet from that game. Id love to

Also, damn, look at this stud taking our entire D line out.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?mibextid=wwXIfr&v=616661141286670

5 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

Also, damn, look at this stud taking our entire D line out.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?mibextid=wwXIfr&v=616661141286670

if that's not a block in the back i've never seen one. That blows up the defensive play and  removes a sack and gives the qb a free ride.

7 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

did you mean to post a link? I havent seen any all 22 yet from that game. Id love to

I blame the whiskey.   Balvenie Doublewood 12yr.    

 

Here's another one I was watching because I was bored and my feed dropped at the end of the game.  Instead of watching Bagent I focused on backup Oline players.  To me Amegadjie looks to have poor hand placement then has to rely on leaning on defenders.  Trapilo need some refinement but I could see a future for him as our starting RT.   He included two views of each play.  

 

 

1 hour ago, AZ54 said:

Here's another one I was watching because I was bored and my feed dropped at the end of the game.  Instead of watching Bagent I focused on backup Oline players.  To me Amegadjie looks to have poor hand placement then has to rely on leaning on defenders.  Trapilo need some refinement but I could see a future for him as our starting RT.   He included two views of each play.  

 

 

I like this one a lot better, the other one, the guy talks to much. Nice with the repeat plays.

1 hour ago, Stinger226 said:

I like this one a lot better, the other one, the guy talks to much. Nice with the repeat plays.

I agree.  The Football Scout changed his format because he now has scouting contracts with agents and others.  I always have the fast forward button at the ready.  

5 hours ago, Lucky Luciano said:

if that's not a block in the back i've never seen one. That blows up the defensive play and  removes a sack and gives the qb a free ride.

I agree. I didnt mean it was a clean play, I was just marveling at the effort.

32 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

I agree. I didnt mean it was a clean play, I was just marveling at the effort.

was there a flag thrown on that one? if not, keerhist sakes, what are these refs getting paid for?

1 minute ago, Lucky Luciano said:

was there a flag thrown on that one? if not, keerhist sakes, what are these refs getting paid for?

they get paid to help the Chiefs all season long, so they have to practice it in preseason LOL

2 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

they get paid to help the Chiefs all season long, so they have to practice it in preseason LOL

LOL... aint it the truth

 

The biggest concern with Caleb was holding onto the ball too long, as that led to too many sacks. If nothing else changed, and he got the ball out quicker, cut down on sacks, then the results will come. Here is Caleb's TTT compared to other QBs:

In the KC game:
• Patrick Mahomes 3.69 TTT
• Tyson Bagent 3.08 TTT
• Caleb Williams 3.06 TTT

Caleb Williams on 25 pass attempts in the preseason this year:
68% completion
8.8 Y/A
122.1 passer rating
71.3 PFF passing grade
2.89 TTT

Drake Maye, another second year QB in a new system (12 att):
58% completion
4.8 Y/A
70.8 passer rating
36.9 PFF grade
3.30 TTT

So I would say he is passing the test so far, no delay of game penalties, no wasted time outs, no INTs, and only 1 sack. 

I watched this game breakdown by Chase Daniels.  First, apologies to Luke Newman who I said missed a block that caused an early pressure in the redzone.  In fact it was a slide right protection call and our buddy Braxton slid left.  How do you know Braxton messed up?  Because his eyes and looking right the whole time and he's the one chasing his missed block.  

There are a few other misses, some on Caleb especially early.   My main takeaway is that on every pass play Caleb had an answer, even the blown block above was a likely TD play if given 1 more second.  After watching this I feel like Ben is setting us up for success and this offense is much closer to the promised land than I thought.  There are still a lot of details to get ironed out and we're not consistent enough to recover from shooting ourselves in the foot.  I can see something good headed our way later this season.  

 

 

5 minutes ago, AZ54 said:

I watched this game breakdown by Chase Daniels.  First, apologies to Luke Newman who I said missed a block that caused an early pressure in the redzone.  In fact it was a slide right protection call and our buddy Braxton slid left.  How do you know Braxton messed up?  Because his eyes and looking right the whole time and he's the one chasing his missed block.  

There are a few other misses, some on Caleb especially early.   My main takeaway is that on every pass play Caleb had an answer, even the blown block above was a likely TD play if given 1 more second.  After watching this I feel like Ben is setting us up for success and this offense is much closer to the promised land than I thought.  There are still a lot of details to get ironed out and we're not consistent enough to recover from shooting ourselves in the foot.  I can see something good headed our way later this season.  

 

 

well said.

5 hours ago, AZ54 said:

I watched this game breakdown by Chase Daniels.  First, apologies to Luke Newman who I said missed a block that caused an early pressure in the redzone.  In fact it was a slide right protection call and our buddy Braxton slid left.  How do you know Braxton messed up?  Because his eyes and looking right the whole time and he's the one chasing his missed block.  

There are a few other misses, some on Caleb especially early.   My main takeaway is that on every pass play Caleb had an answer, even the blown block above was a likely TD play if given 1 more second.  After watching this I feel like Ben is setting us up for success and this offense is much closer to the promised land than I thought.  There are still a lot of details to get ironed out and we're not consistent enough to recover from shooting ourselves in the foot.  I can see something good headed our way later this season.  

 

 

You are so right, the scheme and OL personal is good enough to make Caleb successful. I think Chase and Tim Jenkins do good jobs at breaking down the QB play. I think Caleb just needs to make decisions a little quicker because the plays are there. Old habits are hard to break. Last year it was hard to find WRs that were actually open, this year he has several options on each play. In these plays, I notice Kmet open a lot. 

 

Braxton definitely missed that block.  It's always inside out unless called otherwise.  Can't have that.

5 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:

Braxton definitely missed that block.  It's always inside out unless called otherwise.  Can't have that.

You probably know this, when Caleb calls a play, does he have to reference a line call as he see how the defense is set? If in a noisy environment could Jones miss some line calls? Everything seems fixable .  

Not sure.  I know if it's noisy, he usually turns his head to hear the QB and should've seen the back was not there.  Then, he should've noticed a man was over the guard and the other guy was uncovered.  Inside out theory.  Bonehead play.

Braxton is not good enough. Excuses are excuses. Hopefully Trapilo is ready at some point soon to replace him.

34 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:

Not sure.  I know if it's noisy, he usually turns his head to hear the QB and should've seen the back was not there.  Then, he should've noticed a man was over the guard and the other guy was uncovered.  Inside out theory.  Bonehead play.

If he continues making those bonehead plays, he will be turning the spot over to the next guy up.

9 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

If he continues making those bonehead plays, he will be turning the spot over to the next guy up.

Who should have been Ersery.

Instead, we trade pick 41 for Trapilo and Turner. It's a mistake. Too cute in the draft room for Poles again.

26 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

Who should have been Ersery.

Instead, we trade pick 41 for Trapilo and Turner. It's a mistake. Too cute in the draft room for Poles again.

We didnt draft Banks, Ersery or Simmons, so you should probably get over it.