Week 5 Bye Week Open Thread

[Pixote]

1 hour ago, adam said:

From some reports, that may be where he is headed. 

I firmly believe Braxton hasn't fully recovered from his injury last year. His performance this year has dropped off significantly. If this were the Braxton from the 2024 before the fracture, there wouldn't be all of this talk about his replacement this year, only who do we draft next year as an upgrade.

[adam]

24 minutes ago, Pixote said:

I firmly believe Braxton hasn't fully recovered from his injury last year. His performance this year has dropped off significantly. If this were the Braxton from the 2024 before the fracture, there wouldn't be all of this talk about his replacement this year, only who do we draft next year as an upgrade.

I agree, and even if he is "recovered" I don't think he has the same strength he had previously, which was already a liability.

[BearFan PHX]

Braxton was awful handling the bull rush last year too. Caleb was running for his life as Im sure we all remember. Braxton wasnt the only weakness on the OL last year of course, but I think he is done as a Bear, if not right now, then after this season for sure.

[adam]

Year 2 - 1st Round WRs

Pearsall 20-327, 0 TD
Odunze 20-296, 5 TD
Nabers 18-271, 2 TD (on IR)
Harrison Jr 16-208, 2 TD
Thomas 12-164, 0 TD
Worthy 5-83, 0 TD
Leggette 4-8, 0 TD

Man, Leggette was a terrible pick for the Panthers. 

[Stinger226]

I think draft picks are better judged over their first three years. Stroud was great his first year and is following the Lawrence path of not getting better. Daniels looked much better last year than this year. WR Thomas Jr has did nothing this year after a great rookie season. Same with McConkey. Different situations affect how players do, OL health, different coaches. Caleb is better this year than his first. I think after 3 yrs, players will show who they really are. 

[Stinger226]

What do you think about this proposal ? 

 

[BearFan PHX]

When I said this a couple months ago, you were all over me.

Can we figure out yet that I'm just early on these things? And maybe next time i suggest something only give half the hate?

Trading good players when you have their replacements already int he pipeline is just logical - good teams do it all the time. Its not like i invented it.

[adam]

I did not know Moore, OZ, and Swift grew up near each other and played football together before college. Moore and Swift are really close. 

[Stinger226]

20 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

When I said this a couple months ago, you were all over me.

Can we figure out yet that I'm just early on these things? And maybe next time i suggest something only give half the hate?

Trading good players when you have their replacements already int he pipeline is just logical - good teams do it all the time. Its not like i invented it.

I dont think the Bears are going to do it but after 4 games I wanted to see if anyone's opinion has changed. I would not do it either.

Your whole perspective is about you being right and you telling us how smart you are. See how arguments get started. You could have asked if my opinion has changed and then jumped down my throat but in typical form the same old yak yak. 

[BearFan PHX]

Just gonna say it once.

I dont think Im so smart.

1) I usually say WHY I think something, so Im not just saying "Im smart" but instead Im saying "heres why I think it"

2) I didnt claim to invent this - lots of teams do it. So again, Im not so smart, just been watching football a while.

3) Its you telling me how wrong I am for months that makes me want to say I was right, not to show off that Im smart, but that all the abuse you sent to me and you were wrong in the end.

Honestly, Im always surprised that you think the normal things Im saying are so controversial. Thats why I come back and say I was right, because of all the abuse i take, mostly from you, about how wrong I am.

So isnt that you saying YOURE so smart when you tell me Im wrong so much?

[Stinger226]

22 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

Just gonna say it once.

I dont think Im so smart.

1) I usually say WHY I think something, so Im not just saying "Im smart" but instead Im saying "heres why I think it"

2) I didnt claim to invent this - lots of teams do it. So again, Im not so smart, just been watching football a while.

3) Its you telling me how wrong I am for months that makes me want to say I was right, not to show off that Im smart, but that all the abuse you sent to me and you were wrong in the end.

Honestly, Im always surprised that you think the normal things Im saying are so controversial. Thats why I come back and say I was right, because of all the abuse i take, mostly from you, about how wrong I am.

So isnt that you saying YOURE so smart when you tell me Im wrong so much?

I just posted a video and this is your response. ( you were all over me.) I never changed my mind on anything but you wanting to argue not knowing any context. 

(I didnt claim to invent this,) what are you talking about,?  We just both gave our opinion. You are insinuating you are right. There is no right or wrong on an opinion unless the Bears actually traded him, and then one of us is wrong and  one of us is right on a prediction of a future transaction. 

Im not wrong about your attitude. You just exposed yourself again. I worked 50 years on construction sites (many ego trippers) and have never met anyone like you before.  

I just showed a video and asked for opinions, never said I would or wouldnt and you turn it into an argument. 

I love the comment ( I'm only going to say this once). You have never did that the whole time you have been on here. You cant go a week back on here without creating conflict. 

 

 

 

 

[Stinger226]

Chicago Bears Linked To Landing Jeffery Simmons In Latest Insider Report.

I see stuff like this all the time. We paid Grady Jarrett money to come here, now some Bears pundit suggests we go trade for whoever they think would be  a good addition. He is owned 72 mil over the next 3 yrs. He would be great to have, but I dont think the Bears will do this. I get we need help but it is going to have to come from within. If it doesnt make us a winning team this year then condemn Poles.  When you trade for someone , you have to give up something and a 3 time pro bowler couldnt get bought for a 6 th round pick. Next year they will have 84 mil in cap space so paying Simmons is not an issue at all. 

[BearFan PHX]

24 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

I just posted a video and this is your response. ( you were all over me.) I never changed my mind on anything but you wanting to argue not knowing any context. 

(I didnt claim to invent this,) what are you talking about,?  We just both gave our opinion. You are insinuating you are right. There is no right or wrong on an opinion unless the Bears actually traded him, and then one of us is wrong and  one of us is right on a prediction of a future transaction. 

Im not wrong about your attitude. You just exposed yourself again. I worked 50 years on construction sites (many ego trippers) and have never met anyone like you before.  

I just showed a video and asked for opinions, never said I would or wouldnt and you turn it into an argument. 

I love the comment ( I'm only going to say this once). You have never did that the whole time you have been on here. You cant go a week back on here without creating conflict. 

Im just saying when I say it, youre all over me, when one of your sportswriters says it, then its reasonable. And yet, every time, ive been right, just early.

And no, to the other members of the board, I do not think Im smarter than you. This is just a constant insecure lie that comes from one person.

I guess your experience on construction crews tells you everything you need to know.

The funny thing is, until you started getting nuts about me saying Justin Fields sucked (which he DOES LOL) I didnt have problems on this board, posting my ideas, for 20 years.

And no one else in my life thinks this about me. Usually they describe me in completely opposite terms. Ive raised a wonderful daughter, have lots of good friends, and was popular on my worksites too - in my case in recording studios working at the top of the music biz. Lots of stars, youve heard me on TV, in movies etc many times - but no one ever called me arrogant or anything like that.

Just you couldnt stand to hear me say the truth about Bears players. You never want to trade anyone, everyone always needs a second chance. And Im the devil for telling the truth.

For a while there you were SO out of control that i everntually had to heat it up to the point where other people told us both to stop, and since then you havent spokent the same way to me. Mean, judgemental, sure, but not like before, so mission accomplished.

But you hate me. Its obvious. And what you say about me is insulting and not true. I find it hard to listen to it without saying something back.

But youre not very smart, and youre overly emotional, and your abuse does not make you right.

Ill come back in a week and say whatever the hell I want to about the Bears, but you'll have to play with someone else, because youre ridiculous, and I dont want to deal with you.

[Mongo3451]

There goes the neighborhood...🤦🏽

[BearFan PHX]

3 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:

There goes the neighborhood...🤦🏽

doubt thats helping. you already said youre in screw me mode, so people can take it for what its worth.

Go have another drink, maybe it will make you feel better.

[Mongo3451]

18 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

doubt thats helping. you already said youre in screw me mode, so people can take it for what its worth.

Go have another drink, maybe it will make you feel better.

Midol might help you.  Little pronoun...

[BearFan PHX]

8 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:

Midol might help you.  Little pronoun...

what a wonderful example of not fighting! theres goes the neighborhood! 

You want this to be my fault, but it isnt - Im just not gonna take crap from idiots. No one here would.

Sorry I hurt your feelings before saying Braxton isnt good. You were so sure I didnt know the position, but youre the god of OL play. Hows he looking now?

Morons who cant stand being wrong. What a great look.

[Mongo3451]

5 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

what a wonderful example of not fighting! theres goes the neighborhood! 

You want this to be my fault, but it isnt - Im just not gonna take crap from idiots. No one here would.

Sorry I hurt your feelings before saying Braxton isnt good. You were so sure I didnt know the position, but youre the god of OL play. Hows he looking now?

Morons who cant stand being wrong. What a great look.

You're a funny little man.  At least I know when and where I'm not wanted.  We can talk IQ on your Mensa podcast.  You should have just followed your own words and stayed gone.  I'll wait for your last word, because you are one that really needs to have it.  You've went way too far with the liable for this old Italian.

[Stinger226]

This has all started again for something so stupid. I just posted a video.

According to BFPHX , by having a different opinion I am attacking him. It is very simple, have an opinion give your reasons. I will have my opinion and give mine. When you push the conversation, I double down on mine. There is literally no malice in that kind of disagreement but of course you force there to be. Just stop, can you just have a normal post for at least one week please. At 73 I look for peace and tranquility.

You give valuable content on here but its okay for people to have different opinions. Stop making everything a war. 

[BearFan PHX]

OMG, the victimhood!

Stinger, you started all this when you were speaking in the most disrespectful way because I was saying Fields sucks. Since our big blowup last year, you havent spokent to me like that since. Fighty, sure, but not like you were.

Mongo, I think you just saw a fight and wanted to be part of it. But Libel? Come on thats ridiculous. Are you gonna jump on Stingers "Im gonna sue you because you fought with me on an internet forum?"

The reason I left was because i respected you and didnt want to fight with you too. But I got over it

What a bunch of absolute children.

Guess what? Fields Sucks. Eberflus Sucks. Braxton Jones Sucks. Poles sucks, although since he lets BJ do what he wants, maybe that will work out. It's just true. Im sorry if it hurts your feelings.

This is so crazy.

All this because of Justin Fields. It's nuts.

[Mongo3451]

2 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

OMG, the victimhood!

Stinger, you started all this when you were speaking in the most disrespectful way because I was saying Fields sucks. Since our big blowup last year, you havent spokent to me like that since. Fighty, sure, but not like you were.

Mongo, I think you just saw a fight and wanted to be part of it. But Libel? Come on thats ridiculous. Are you gonna jump on Stingers "Im gonna sue you because you fought with me on an internet forum?"

The reason I left was because i respected you and didnt want to fight with you too. But I got over it

What a bunch of absolute children.

Guess what? Fields Sucks. Eberflus Sucks. Braxton Jones Sucks. Poles sucks, although since he lets BJ do what he wants, maybe that will work out. It's just true. Im sorry if it hurts your feelings.

This is so crazy.

All this because of Justin Fields. It's nuts.

Your crybaby ass just takes a thing and runs with it.  You didn't leave here out of an ounce of respect for anyone but the mirror.  Go be a piss ant where they enjoy it.  I got you a jersey as a parting gift.

BTW - I have no feelings for anything but animals, old people and children.  Definitely not myself... 🤡

[BearFan PHX]

Um OK. I think you're proving my point but whatever.

I dont really want a fight with you Mongo. Im just not going to submit to anyone. If you require that, then you can say or do whatever you need to.

Stinger and i actually have a reason to be mad at each other. I dunno what, except for not agreeing that you were behaving yourself when you told me I have to defer to your opinion on OL and calling me a bitch. But honestly, i dont really care. It wasnt that bad. If you want to keep sniping, go ahead, but its kinda dumb.