Week 9 Official Game Thread - CHI @ CIN, Nov 2nd, 12PM CST, CBS, CHI -1.5

[Stinger226]

I liked that , yesterday is the first time I seen this podcast. It popped up on my YouTube feed when I hit Chicago Bears. When I tried to post it, it just popped up a black screen and said video unavailable. 

[Stinger226]

 

[AZ54]

2 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

I liked that , yesterday is the first time I seen this podcast. It popped up on my YouTube feed when I hit Chicago Bears. When I tried to post it, it just popped up a black screen and said video unavailable. 

I also couldn't embed the video so just posted the link.  It is interesting to listen to former Oline talk about what they see in the game.  As good as Darnell Wright's block was even better was watching Benedet move a DB right off the field.   What made me laugh was watching the trailing officials reaction to it which starts at this screenshot.  

   

[BearFan PHX]

Watching the all 22, one thing that stood out to me is that Caleb was overthrowing guys. the previous week he was underthrowing them, and he needed to do a better job of getting the ball out in front of receivers so they can run.

That feels like he's trying to dial it in. And it's not making the same mistakes weeks in a row.

[ASHKUM BEAR]

29 minutes ago, AZ54 said:

I also couldn't embed the video so just posted the link.  It is interesting to listen to former Oline talk about what they see in the game.  As good as Darnell Wright's block was even better was watching Benedet move a DB right off the field.   What made me laugh was watching the trailing officials reaction to it which starts at this screenshot.  

   

Great to see credit be given to this oline.  This squad can run block and a good run team opens the pass. This makes it much easier for Caleb to grow confidence in his abilities which if he get dialed in, we can see a special player.  

 

[AZ54]

8 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

Watching the all 22, one thing that stood out to me is that Caleb was overthrowing guys. the previous week he was underthrowing them, and he needed to do a better job of getting the ball out in front of receivers so they can run.

That feels like he's trying to dial it in. And it's not making the same mistakes weeks in a row.

Could just be related to how much he steps forward as he throws.  A shorter step and your body tends to rise up as you throw leading to a higher pass.   A longer setup flattens or the arc or the arm leading to a bit of an under throw.   Ben Johnson made him change his footwork this year so imaybe we shouldn’t be surprised there is some inconsistency.  

[BearFan PHX]

5 hours ago, AZ54 said:

Could just be related to how much he steps forward as he throws.  A shorter step and your body tends to rise up as you throw leading to a higher pass.   A longer setup flattens or the arc or the arm leading to a bit of an under throw.   Ben Johnson made him change his footwork this year so imaybe we shouldn’t be surprised there is some inconsistency.  

yes, exactly. and I think two weeks ago he was throwing behind his WRs, so in making adjustments, he was throwing too far out in front this past week. hopefully he gets it dialed in soon.

[Pixote]

1 hour ago, BearFan PHX said:

yes, exactly. and I think two weeks ago he was throwing behind his WRs, so in making adjustments, he was throwing too far out in front this past week. hopefully he gets it dialed in soon.

I might suggest he may never improve on his completion %. With vastly improved coaching, offensive line, and skill players, and after playing 25 games in the NFL, his completion percentage is lower this year than last. However, not all HOF quarterbacks had great accuracy. Brady was at 64.3% for his career, but then again, he is arguably the GOAT.

The following list was from a Google AI search. I did some spot checks of the figures, and they seem accurate. Some rounding up or down, but very close or exactly as noted in online references for individual players.

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Quarterback	Career Completion %
Kurt Warner	65.5%
Joe Montana	65.2%
Fran Tarkenton	56.4%
Dan Marino	60.2%
Johnny Unitas	54.6%
Roger Staubach	56.9%
John Elway	56.9%
Sonny Jurgensen	57.1%
Otto Graham	55.7%
Bart Starr	57.4%
Sammy Baugh	57.4%
Warren Moon	58.4%
Norm Van Brocklin	53.6%
Sid Luckman	52.0%
Y.A. Tittle	55.5%
Terry Bradshaw	52.0%
Bob Griese	56.2%
Joe Namath	50.1%
Dan Fouts	58.8%
Len Dawson	57.1%
Bobby Layne	49.0%
George Blanda	47.9%
Ace Parker	41.7%

 

[BearFan PHX]

17 minutes ago, Pixote said:

I might suggest he may never improve on his completion %. With vastly improved coaching, offensive line, and skill players, and after playing 25 games in the NFL, his completion percentage is lower this year than last. However, not all HOF quarterbacks had great accuracy. Brady was at 64.3% for his career, but then again, he is arguably the GOAT.

The following list was from a Google AI search. I did some spot checks of the figures, and they seem accurate. Some rounding up or down, but very close or exactly as noted in online references for individual players.

 

well I agree he could end his career in the 60%s and that wouldnt mean he hadnt been great, your list shows that, but I also think that no one ever coached him on his footwork before, and Johnson is working with him on it, so there are reasons to be optimistic too.

He's still so new, I see a really high ceiling for him.

[adam]

1 hour ago, Pixote said:

I might suggest he may never improve on his completion %. With vastly improved coaching, offensive line, and skill players, and after playing 25 games in the NFL, his completion percentage is lower this year than last. However, not all HOF quarterbacks had great accuracy. Brady was at 64.3% for his career, but then again, he is arguably the GOAT.

The following list was from a Google AI search. I did some spot checks of the figures, and they seem accurate. Some rounding up or down, but very close or exactly as noted in online references for individual players.

 

Pix, there are a lot of recent examples of players improving YoY. Josh Allen had a 52.8% Comp his rookie year, 58.8% his 2nd year, and has never been below 63% in his last 6 years, but it took him until his 3rd year to get there. The crazy part about that was he had Brian Daboll the entire time.

Another comp is Stafford, who only had one season above 60% comp in his first 5 seasons. Now with a career average of 63.5%. 

Goff had a 54.6% his rookie year, 62.1% his 2nd year and now has a 66.0% for his career.

Williams will improve. The goal was 70%, but probably not realistic for his first year in the system. I think if he can improve in the 2nd half and get near 65%, that would be a good step in the right direction.

[adam]

It is also hard to compare Williams rookie year with this year or anyone else's rookie year. The more you look at what occurred around him, it is amazing what he was able to accomplish under so much duress.