Draft Prospects

[AZ54]

Raiders are taking care of their future draft picks by making sure Crosby avoid serious injury in the last two games.  Cleveland is a wild card here because they have to decide if they want to go after one of the two top QBs.  NY Giants at 1st overall do not need a DE in Myles Garrett so that trade and a swap of 1st likely won't work.   Raiders will definitely not move off their spot.  If they can't get a QB does Garrett want to play there?  Do you let that play out after the draft?   If I'm giving up two firsts I'd do it for Garrett over Crosby.   

[BearFan PHX]

I like this board. I prefer not to debate with you Stinger. Your tone is already aggressive, and I would prefer to just not deal with you. nothing good comes of it.

I put those figures for everyone else, so we can all make our own guesses at what the team might do.

Personally, I think if we can land Crosby or Garrett, we should do it. Then the team will be fully dimensional.

With the offense we are building, we need to compliment it with a defense, and specifically a pass rush. Let's get em next year with Deyo isn't going to cut it. We need greatness on the D line to make us into a real killer. Johnson knows this, and so does Poles. How they will do that, i don't know. But that's where cap savings would have to come from if we were going to do something like that.

[BearFan PHX]

3 minutes ago, AZ54 said:

Raiders are taking care of their future draft picks by making sure Crosby avoid serious injury in the last two games.  Cleveland is a wild card here because they have to decide if they want to go after one of the two top QBs.  NY Giants at 1st overall do not need a DE in Myles Garrett so that trade and a swap of 1st likely won't work.   Raiders will definitely not move off their spot.  If they can't get a QB does Garrett want to play there?  Do you let that play out after the draft?   If I'm giving up two firsts I'd do it for Garrett over Crosby.   

I agree, Garrett is the better player, but either of them would make a huge difference.

[Stinger226]

31 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

I like this board. I prefer not to debate with you Stinger. Your tone is already aggressive, and I would prefer to just not deal with you. nothing good comes of it.

I put those figures for everyone else, so we can all make our own guesses at what the team might do.

Personally, I think if we can land Crosby or Garrett, we should do it. Then the team will be fully dimensional.

With the offense we are building, we need to compliment it with a defense, and specifically a pass rush. Let's get em next year with Deyo isn't going to cut it. We need greatness on the D line to make us into a real killer. Johnson knows this, and so does Poles. How they will do that, i don't know. But that's where cap savings would have to come from if we were going to do something like that.

I took off the ignore button because it's been peaceful and thought we could just give our opinions and not have you calling me having a different opinion as being aggressive and ( don't like my tone) but of course you will never change. 

I responded to a A Bear post and you jump right jump in and say that's false information. In any trade scenario you have dead money to go with cap saving. I just tried to make that point. 

If you don't want to deal with me stopping taking about me when you post and we can get along just fine.

Let's get to the conversation instead of your attempt to argue.

I hope we bring in someone to but I don't think Poles is trading away many assets and first round picks for a Garrett or Crosby. I think he redoes contracts and maybe get rid of Edmunds cap number and brings in Hendeichson. Costs us no assets. I'm not sure who else is out there.

 

[Stinger226]

Poles shot his load last year for the next two years of Cap space. The OL cost hit a home run but the Jarrett and Dayo money is a bust this year. Jarrett and Dayo don't  have outs on their contracts until 27 so they are here next year. 

Booker is getting better and  Turner will be healthy. Sweat isn't a top 10 Edge but is still a double digit sacker. 1/2 sack short this year with 2 games left. Poles is not discarding this group but will add to it in the draft and maybe by FA or trade. 

I think he will play with money and bring in a FA instead of all the trade proposals on here. I think with Caleb progressing next year we have a highest scoring team in the league potential and will not deal any offensive assets.

Just my opinion. 

[BearFan PHX]

Yeah, not taking the bait. Just please stop.

[AZ54]

2 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

Yeah, not taking the bait. Just please stop.

Thank you!