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Raiders are taking care of their future draft picks by making sure Crosby avoid serious injury in the last two games.  Cleveland is a wild card here because they have to decide if they want to go after one of the two top QBs.  NY Giants at 1st overall do not need a DE in Myles Garrett so that trade and a swap of 1st likely won't work.   Raiders will definitely not move off their spot.  If they can't get a QB does Garrett want to play there?  Do you let that play out after the draft?   If I'm giving up two firsts I'd do it for Garrett over Crosby.   

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I like this board. I prefer not to debate with you Stinger. Your tone is already aggressive, and I would prefer to just not deal with you. nothing good comes of it.

I put those figures for everyone else, so we can all make our own guesses at what the team might do.

Personally, I think if we can land Crosby or Garrett, we should do it. Then the team will be fully dimensional.

With the offense we are building, we need to compliment it with a defense, and specifically a pass rush. Let's get em next year with Deyo isn't going to cut it. We need greatness on the D line to make us into a real killer. Johnson knows this, and so does Poles. How they will do that, i don't know. But that's where cap savings would have to come from if we were going to do something like that.

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3 minutes ago, AZ54 said:

Raiders are taking care of their future draft picks by making sure Crosby avoid serious injury in the last two games.  Cleveland is a wild card here because they have to decide if they want to go after one of the two top QBs.  NY Giants at 1st overall do not need a DE in Myles Garrett so that trade and a swap of 1st likely won't work.   Raiders will definitely not move off their spot.  If they can't get a QB does Garrett want to play there?  Do you let that play out after the draft?   If I'm giving up two firsts I'd do it for Garrett over Crosby.   

I agree, Garrett is the better player, but either of them would make a huge difference.

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31 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

I like this board. I prefer not to debate with you Stinger. Your tone is already aggressive, and I would prefer to just not deal with you. nothing good comes of it.

I put those figures for everyone else, so we can all make our own guesses at what the team might do.

Personally, I think if we can land Crosby or Garrett, we should do it. Then the team will be fully dimensional.

With the offense we are building, we need to compliment it with a defense, and specifically a pass rush. Let's get em next year with Deyo isn't going to cut it. We need greatness on the D line to make us into a real killer. Johnson knows this, and so does Poles. How they will do that, i don't know. But that's where cap savings would have to come from if we were going to do something like that.

I took off the ignore button because it's been peaceful and thought we could just give our opinions and not have you calling me having a different opinion as being aggressive and ( don't like my tone) but of course you will never change. 

I responded to a A Bear post and you jump right jump in and say that's false information. In any trade scenario you have dead money to go with cap saving. I just tried to make that point. 

If you don't want to deal with me stopping taking about me when you post and we can get along just fine.

Let's get to the conversation instead of your attempt to argue.

I hope we bring in someone to but I don't think Poles is trading away many assets and first round picks for a Garrett or Crosby. I think he redoes contracts and maybe get rid of Edmunds cap number and brings in Hendeichson. Costs us no assets. I'm not sure who else is out there.

 

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Poles shot his load last year for the next two years of Cap space. The OL cost hit a home run but the Jarrett and Dayo money is a bust this year. Jarrett and Dayo don't  have outs on their contracts until 27 so they are here next year. 

Booker is getting better and  Turner will be healthy. Sweat isn't a top 10 Edge but is still a double digit sacker. 1/2 sack short this year with 2 games left. Poles is not discarding this group but will add to it in the draft and maybe by FA or trade. 

I think he will play with money and bring in a FA instead of all the trade proposals on here. I think with Caleb progressing next year we have a highest scoring team in the league potential and will not deal any offensive assets.

Just my opinion. 

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On 11/19/2025 at 12:30 PM, BearFan PHX said:

Not a first round concern, but we may need to add safety to that list, because I dont see Brisker being re-signed?

Also, as well as Edmunds has been playing this year, his cap number is really high, and we might need a replacement for him too?

Same for DJ Moore, but i think we already have his replacement on the roster in Luther Burden III

We might need a TE too, given that Kmet doesn't seem to be worth his $11.6M either?

I’d hate to lose DJ or Kmet. I wasn’t really a fan of drafting Burden. And I despised the Loveland. On the other hand, I’ve always complemented the Patriots for getting rid of players before significant skill deterioration or unnecessarily punitive cap hit. So, maybe the Bears are leaning towards multi-year success?

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3 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

With the offense we are building, we need to complement it with a defense, and specifically a pass rush. Let's get em next year with Deyo isn't going to cut it. We need greatness on the D line to make us into a real killer. 

Concur, especially bolded. Same as the offense; build an awesome line and the rest benefits, but the reverse isn’t necessarily true. No shocker that the OL FINALLY got some love and we’re trending significantly upward.

Build the DL and the rest can be Kwiatkoski, Sanborn, etc.

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We are use to always taking about next year because we were losers but this year is different. Our floor is make the playoffs and lose our first game. That will still be a successful season but what if our ceiling is the SB and we actually will have a whole different outlook on future asset and acquisitions. I suspect the conversation will be who can try and bring back . 

Clearly our DL will still need some upgrades but think it will be with draft picks and not getting rid of players in trades. 

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