Draft Prospects

[AZ54]

Raiders are taking care of their future draft picks by making sure Crosby avoid serious injury in the last two games.  Cleveland is a wild card here because they have to decide if they want to go after one of the two top QBs.  NY Giants at 1st overall do not need a DE in Myles Garrett so that trade and a swap of 1st likely won't work.   Raiders will definitely not move off their spot.  If they can't get a QB does Garrett want to play there?  Do you let that play out after the draft?   If I'm giving up two firsts I'd do it for Garrett over Crosby.   

[BearFan PHX]

I like this board. I prefer not to debate with you Stinger. Your tone is already aggressive, and I would prefer to just not deal with you. nothing good comes of it.

I put those figures for everyone else, so we can all make our own guesses at what the team might do.

Personally, I think if we can land Crosby or Garrett, we should do it. Then the team will be fully dimensional.

With the offense we are building, we need to compliment it with a defense, and specifically a pass rush. Let's get em next year with Deyo isn't going to cut it. We need greatness on the D line to make us into a real killer. Johnson knows this, and so does Poles. How they will do that, i don't know. But that's where cap savings would have to come from if we were going to do something like that.

[BearFan PHX]

3 minutes ago, AZ54 said:

Raiders are taking care of their future draft picks by making sure Crosby avoid serious injury in the last two games.  Cleveland is a wild card here because they have to decide if they want to go after one of the two top QBs.  NY Giants at 1st overall do not need a DE in Myles Garrett so that trade and a swap of 1st likely won't work.   Raiders will definitely not move off their spot.  If they can't get a QB does Garrett want to play there?  Do you let that play out after the draft?   If I'm giving up two firsts I'd do it for Garrett over Crosby.   

I agree, Garrett is the better player, but either of them would make a huge difference.

[Stinger226]

31 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

I like this board. I prefer not to debate with you Stinger. Your tone is already aggressive, and I would prefer to just not deal with you. nothing good comes of it.

I put those figures for everyone else, so we can all make our own guesses at what the team might do.

Personally, I think if we can land Crosby or Garrett, we should do it. Then the team will be fully dimensional.

With the offense we are building, we need to compliment it with a defense, and specifically a pass rush. Let's get em next year with Deyo isn't going to cut it. We need greatness on the D line to make us into a real killer. Johnson knows this, and so does Poles. How they will do that, i don't know. But that's where cap savings would have to come from if we were going to do something like that.

I took off the ignore button because it's been peaceful and thought we could just give our opinions and not have you calling me having a different opinion as being aggressive and ( don't like my tone) but of course you will never change. 

I responded to a A Bear post and you jump right jump in and say that's false information. In any trade scenario you have dead money to go with cap saving. I just tried to make that point. 

If you don't want to deal with me stopping taking about me when you post and we can get along just fine.

Let's get to the conversation instead of your attempt to argue.

I hope we bring in someone to but I don't think Poles is trading away many assets and first round picks for a Garrett or Crosby. I think he redoes contracts and maybe get rid of Edmunds cap number and brings in Hendeichson. Costs us no assets. I'm not sure who else is out there.

 

[Stinger226]

Poles shot his load last year for the next two years of Cap space. The OL cost hit a home run but the Jarrett and Dayo money is a bust this year. Jarrett and Dayo don't  have outs on their contracts until 27 so they are here next year. 

Booker is getting better and  Turner will be healthy. Sweat isn't a top 10 Edge but is still a double digit sacker. 1/2 sack short this year with 2 games left. Poles is not discarding this group but will add to it in the draft and maybe by FA or trade. 

I think he will play with money and bring in a FA instead of all the trade proposals on here. I think with Caleb progressing next year we have a highest scoring team in the league potential and will not deal any offensive assets.

Just my opinion. 

[BearFan PHX]

Yeah, not taking the bait. Just please stop.

[AZ54]

2 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

Yeah, not taking the bait. Just please stop.

Thank you!

[jason]

On 11/19/2025 at 12:30 PM, BearFan PHX said:

Not a first round concern, but we may need to add safety to that list, because I dont see Brisker being re-signed?

Also, as well as Edmunds has been playing this year, his cap number is really high, and we might need a replacement for him too?

Same for DJ Moore, but i think we already have his replacement on the roster in Luther Burden III

We might need a TE too, given that Kmet doesn't seem to be worth his $11.6M either?

I’d hate to lose DJ or Kmet. I wasn’t really a fan of drafting Burden. And I despised the Loveland. On the other hand, I’ve always complemented the Patriots for getting rid of players before significant skill deterioration or unnecessarily punitive cap hit. So, maybe the Bears are leaning towards multi-year success?

[jason]

3 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

With the offense we are building, we need to complement it with a defense, and specifically a pass rush. Let's get em next year with Deyo isn't going to cut it. We need greatness on the D line to make us into a real killer. 

Concur, especially bolded. Same as the offense; build an awesome line and the rest benefits, but the reverse isn’t necessarily true. No shocker that the OL FINALLY got some love and we’re trending significantly upward.

Build the DL and the rest can be Kwiatkoski, Sanborn, etc.

[Stinger226]

We are use to always taking about next year because we were losers but this year is different. Our floor is make the playoffs and lose our first game. That will still be a successful season but what if our ceiling is the SB and we actually will have a whole different outlook on future asset and acquisitions. I suspect the conversation will be who can try and bring back . 

Clearly our DL will still need some upgrades but think it will be with draft picks and not getting rid of players in trades. 

[BearFan PHX]

9 hours ago, jason said:

I’d hate to lose DJ or Kmet. I wasn’t really a fan of drafting Burden. And I despised the Loveland. On the other hand, I’ve always complemented the Patriots for getting rid of players before significant skill deterioration or unnecessarily punitive cap hit. So, maybe the Bears are leaning towards multi-year success?

Right. That's the way you do it. You want a pipeline of young players, and you replace the older steady vets with young guys, and youll always have extra draft picks that way from trading the vets. Of course it means getting rid of good players too, but the Patriots proved the way to do it.

The only thing is you HAVE to be able to develop those younger players into good replacements. If you can do that consistently, then you can have a stocked roster for many years.

[ASHKUM BEAR]

I noticed the social media Bear pages have taken the Garrett and Crosby talk and are running.  Think it was mentioned here a day or two before it exploded online.  We are the news. 

If the Bears do not adapt, the rest of the league will.  They will be playing a 1st place schedule... most likely, so it will be a tougher road to stay on top. Draft picks are good for 2 years down the road, but not so much for today.  Address the d-line like they did the o-line.  Garrett/Crosby are your top target, Hendrickson can be plan b. 

[Stinger226]

Hendrickson just costs money as a FA, to get the other 2 lots of assets have to leave. I vote for not weaking the team, sign a free agent.

[BearFan PHX]

4 hours ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

I noticed the social media Bear pages have taken the Garrett and Crosby talk and are running.  Think it was mentioned here a day or two before it exploded online.  We are the news. 

If the Bears do not adapt, the rest of the league will.  They will be playing a 1st place schedule... most likely, so it will be a tougher road to stay on top. Draft picks are good for 2 years down the road, but not so much for today.  Address the d-line like they did the o-line.  Garrett/Crosby are your top target, Hendrickson can be plan b. 

right on

[ASHKUM BEAR]

2 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

Hendrickson just costs money as a FA, to get the other 2 lots of assets have to leave. I vote for not weaking the team, sign a free agent.

I get it, you want to keep all our players. Look at it this way. The Bears have maybe 1 or 2 years before Caleb's contract gets extended. Once Caleb is extended, there are no DJs, Kmets, or Sweats.  So they can try with what they got or bring in the assasin.

[Stinger226]

23 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

I get it, you want to keep all our players. Look at it this way. The Bears have maybe 1 or 2 years before Caleb's contract gets extended. Once Caleb is extended, there are no DJs, Kmets, or Sweats.  So they can try with what they got or bring in the assasin.

Poles set it up that way to have contracts run out when Caleb gets paid. The problem with bringing in one of those two   would be their money won't be leaving where as those 3 will be gone, freeing up money for Caleb. 

I get the love for those two but don't  think the loss of good players and valuable first round picks would be worth it. Just my opinion, it's okay to have your thoughts because neither matter, it's what Poles decides to do . 

 

[Stinger226]

I find this conversation similar to the preseason conversation  that we needed another RB because Swift wasn't a #1 and we had no idea what Monangai would do. For me, I need to just trust what BJ and Poles decides will turn out.

Also it appears we have the LT if the future which was a topic of conversation. 

Injuries has hurt our defense all year and we are still 11-4. I think they figure it out after the season is over. 

[BearFan PHX]

The conversation about Swift and Kmet not being good enough was one thing - and then Swift started playing like he never had before, and i said that he had played himself back on the team many weeks ago. We all saw Swift run and said similar things after the bye.

The discussion about Moore and Jaylon Johnson wasnt that they werent good enough, it was about their cap space. So that's different. If youre going to bring someone in, even a highly paid free agent, you need to clear cap room for them, and there are only a few players who can do that.

The LT conversation didnt include Trapilo because he was off of most people's radar for the draft - a right tackle - so the discussion was that Braxton wasnt good enough. And that we should draft one of the good left tackles. No one at the time expected Benedet to develop like that, and until we drafted Trapilo no one was thinking about him either. None of us had him in predraft lists. After we drafted him, and saw a couple preseason games, I said I thought he would beat Braxton out. I was right that Braxton sucks, but I didnt even consider Benedet, and I had hope for Trapilo - I still do.

So the rewritten history lesson should not then stand as proof that we can roll with what we have on the D line. It's apples and oranges.

We need killers on the D line. And I trust we will find a way to get some. Sweat, Dayo and Booker are not enough by far. All could be good in supporting roles to a stud Edge and something new and disruptive at 3T.

[Stinger226]

(I like this board, I prefer not to debate with Stinger) 

[ASHKUM BEAR]

23 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

(I like this board, I prefer not to debate with Stinger) 

 

1 hour ago, Stinger226 said:

I find this conversation similar to the preseason conversation  that we needed another RB because Swift wasn't a #1 and we had no idea what Monangai would do. For me, I need to just trust what BJ and Poles decides will turn out.

Also it appears we have the LT if the future which was a topic of conversation. 

Injuries has hurt our defense all year and we are still 11-4. I think they figure it out after the season is over. 

Ill keep coming back with what I think, because I don't see a draft picks bringing that last needed element. 3T or DE that commands the respect to take take over games.   Hendrickson might be a good rotational piece, but at his point in his career, id rather trade up for a better prospect. I keep doing mocks and cannot get the player needed with were we are at.