When The Rubber Meets The Road - DJ Moore

[Lucky Luciano]

ok, i have made my opinions on keeping moore in past threads. i don't have the time or resources to go through a 3 year span of his games in chicago but if this is the argument that he quits on plays or is too expensive then someone needs to do the 'receivers' comparison to realistically back up your opinions or they are just a knee jerk reaction. 

1.  MONEY: this is nearly a mute point with me. good franchises find ways to keep their systems working under the cap every single year. added to this is on every good roster there is at least one high paid receiver. the other 'replacement' receivers are ALL on rookie contracts. our QB is still on his rookie contract. our RB's are low cap hits. so is the savings really that drastic that we replace him? with what? the cap balance is in place for the next 1-2 years. this is how it's done.

2. HEALTH: as i stated in the past, he is tougher than nails. can you guess how many games he has missed since his time in chicago? "0" games missed in THREE YEARS. in his entire career there are only TWO games he has not played in. those were  his second and third year in carolina. that makes him a CONSISTENT weapon EVERY game for a qb to count on.

he has been battered and bruised and still comes out and plays to a high degree. back injuries, which if anyone knows about them, is no small deal. groin injuries that he was hospitalized after the game in washington, knee injuries plus in my opinion possible concussion from the head slams twice in a row and probably a lot more i didn't list. every one of these would contribute to onfield problems and endurance.

so yea, he may take some plays off that supposedly aren't coming to him. i wonder why with all the injuries i listed above? if he screwed up that particular play so be it. a learning experience or just a result of injury conserving himself for a play designed in his direction.

now for all you stat monsters out there.... give me the printout of the replacement receivers game logs. we are basically talking about dunze and burden correct? none other come to mind.

odunze: missed FIVE GAMES in his 2nd season. foot injury.

burden: missed TWO regular season games and limited in some others. concussion, ankle injury, quad injury.

have ANY of these receivers proven they can play an entire season yet let alone at a high level? potential? yea, but not proven in the real world.

3. PRODUCTION: face it, he is a clutch receiver when the chips are down. he has good+ hands. can get open on a regular basis. he is a very good WR blocker. he can be used as a RB on sweeps. in other words he can do everything you hope a WR can do and does it well. is he perfect? no. find me ANY WR in the history of the NFL that is perfect every play, every game, every season of their career. to keep him for 1-2 years more while the other receivers and qb are on rookie contracts shouldn't even be a chore to figure out.

be fair, go through the game films. did these other players EVER take plays off or slow down on routes where the ball wasn't regulated in their wheelhouse? let me know how those film studies turn out then we can talk turkey.

please post your results of indepth analysis of our replacements consistant, never take a play off, results.

 

[Mongo3451]

12 minutes ago, Lucky Luciano said:

be fair, go through the game films. did these other players EVER take plays off or slow down on routes where the ball wasn't regulated in their wheelhouse? let me know how those film studies turn out then we can talk turkey.

please post your results of indepth analysis of our replacements consistant, never take a play off, results.

How bout you do the damn work.  I watched the games and remember.  I'm not a a DJ hater, nor is he a whipping boy. (Terrible term).  His value, at this point, is better served by hauling with the the cap and the defense.  His heroic catches, minus the one he could have had, can be replaced.  That can't be said for defensive help.  I saw him walk off the field during a play last year when Caleb was looking for help. (Same side of field). I saw multiple plays of shitty body language.(Number one to rookie.  Come in rookie). He also doesn't really see the open spots in the throwing lane very well. (As seen in multiple games). There's your number one.  Back it up instead of running your keyboard with a new thread.  Don't call us out for NOT doing the homework when you haven't done it.(Goes for Stinger too.  Sorry brother)

[Lucky Luciano]

48 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:

How bout you do the damn work.  I watched the games and remember.  I'm not a a DJ hater, nor is he a whipping boy. (Terrible term).  His value, at this point, is better served by hauling with the the cap and the defense.  His heroic catches, minus the one he could have had, can be replaced.  That can't be said for defensive help.  I saw him walk off the field during a play last year when Caleb was looking for help. (Same side of field). I saw multiple plays of shitty body language.(Number one to rookie.  Come in rookie). He also doesn't really see the open spots in the throwing lane very well. (As seen in multiple games). There's your number one.  Back it up instead of running your keyboard with a new thread.  Don't call us out for NOT doing the homework when you haven't done it.(Goes for Stinger too.  Sorry brother)

how bout YOU doing the work you are relying on as FACT. how bout YOU back up your mouth with facts and compare what your OPINIONS regard as the ultimate truth. i personally don't give a shite.

you bring up these statements as facts like there is no other player on our roster to be used for comparrison who does this or this is the reason that his tenure in chicago is no big loss.

do YOUR job and do an accurate assessment of our receiving corp and player comparisons. if he is the only player on our entire roster who takes plays off so be it. just show me or shut the F up.

[Mongo3451]

21 minutes ago, Lucky Luciano said:

how bout YOU doing the work you are relying on as FACT. how bout YOU back up your mouth with facts and compare what your OPINIONS regard as the ultimate truth. i personally don't give a shite.

you bring up these statements as facts like there is no other player on our roster to be used for comparrison who does this or this is the reason that his tenure in chicago is no big loss.

do YOUR job and do an accurate assessment of our receiving corp and player comparisons. if he is the only player on our entire roster who takes plays off so be it. just show me or shut the F up.

Oh now you want to get chippy?  I did my job last year pointing it out, troll.  Now, back to your cave and do your homework!  Easy for you, you only have to search this site...🤌🏽🤌🏽🤌🏽

[Lucky Luciano]

1 minute ago, Mongo3451 said:

Oh now you want to get chippy.  I did my job last year pointing it out, troll.  Now, back to your cave and do your homework!

are you really this stupid?

end of discussion. a waste of time talking to an idiot.

[Mongo3451]

1 minute ago, Lucky Luciano said:

are you really this stupid?

end of discussion. a waste of time talking to an idiot.

You know better, troll.

[Lucky Luciano]

2 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:

You know better, troll.

ahhhh, the troll calling someone else the troll. guess it's just for fun? just you joking? whatever dude. take your ball and go home. i'm done with you.

[Mongo3451]

22 minutes ago, Lucky Luciano said:

ahhhh, the troll calling someone else the troll. guess it's just for fun? just you joking? whatever dude. take your ball and go home. i'm done with you.

😭😭😭Buh bye, cave boy.  BTW, how's your Unabomber diatribe digesting with the NFL...🤣

[Lucky Luciano]

1 hour ago, Mongo3451 said:

😭😭😭Buh bye, cave boy.  BTW, how's your Unabomber diatribe digesting with the NFL...🤣

LOL.... chump