Super Meh Bowl

[Mongo3451]

Odds are out for next year's Superbowl.  Vegas has us missing the playoffs.

[ASHKUM BEAR]

38 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:

Odds are out for next year's Superbowl.  Vegas has us missing the playoffs.

First place schedule and a maxed out cap. How much do the Bears restructure and make future years tighter.

Edmunds cut gives them operating money, 15 mil, for draft and emergency. 

Restructure Moore for 17 mil, but if so expect him to be around at least two more years.  

Might not be popular, but a Swift cutting frees up 7.5 mil and they could draft a guy rd 3 or 4 to replace him while signing a vet. 

[Stinger226]

56 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

First place schedule and a maxed out cap. How much do the Bears restructure and make future years tighter.

Edmunds cut gives them operating money, 15 mil, for draft and emergency. 

Restructure Moore for 17 mil, but if so expect him to be around at least two more years.  

Might not be popular, but a Swift cutting frees up 7.5 mil and they could draft a guy rd 3 or 4 to replace him while signing a vet. 

Those are all likely and think they may resturture Swift to create more money. Could we get by with Monangai as lead back? I think so. A late round speedster as the second back could do it. Will Johnson be cut or healthy as a third back? Only time will tell. 

I seen people say sign Walker, a oft injured player being high priced off of a SB. No 

[Stinger226]

1 hour ago, Mongo3451 said:

Odds are out for next year's Superbowl.  Vegas has us missing the playoffs.

I'm going to place a bet, I saw  +2500  for the bears to win the SB  That's worth 50 to me. 

[BearFan PHX]

I saw a cap show on TTNL with "Cars" their cap guy, and he explained how they could pretty easily open up $65M in the cap by only adding a single void year to DJ (and keeping him) - we havent done any of those kind of deals yet, so we have room

[adam]

Drake Maye really got exposed. Looking at some of the analysis, all SEA did was take away his first read and shade to his outlet, and he didn't know what to do. Pretty damning. He may regress more than I am expecting.

[Mongo3451]

9 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

I'm going to place a bet, I saw  +2500  for the bears to win the SB  That's worth 50 to me. 

FanDuel is +2700

[adam]

1 hour ago, Mongo3451 said:

FanDuel is +2700

$100 gets you $2700. 

[Mongo3451]

10 minutes ago, adam said:

$100 gets you $2700. 

Yup.  We could pool our money and do a group bet.

[AZ54]

15 hours ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

First place schedule and a maxed out cap. How much do the Bears restructure and make future years tighter.

Edmunds cut gives them operating money, 15 mil, for draft and emergency. 

Restructure Moore for 17 mil, but if so expect him to be around at least two more years.  

Might not be popular, but a Swift cutting frees up 7.5 mil and they could draft a guy rd 3 or 4 to replace him while signing a vet. 

Swift was very good in pass pro last year.   Bears fans don’t see it on a stat sheet so assume a rookie will just come in and do the same.  Even Monangai struggled at times but I expect he’ll be better this year.  I don’t expect Ben, who loves explosive plays, to put his QBs protection at risk.  

[ASHKUM BEAR]

5 hours ago, AZ54 said:

Swift was very good in pass pro last year.   Bears fans don’t see it on a stat sheet so assume a rookie will just come in and do the same.  Even Monangai struggled at times but I expect he’ll be better this year.  I don’t expect Ben, who loves explosive plays, to put his QBs protection at risk.  

That is true, BJs motto is you have to block to get the rock.  Speaking of pass pro, the oline kicked butt: Thuney #2 IOL, Wright #4 OT, Dalman #8 IOL, and Jackson #12 IOL. 

The Bears will need to shake some cap.  Swift can be a extension candidate, but doubtful he does this to lessen his pay when guys like Breece Hall are expected to get 10 mil/year for 4. Swifts 8.8 mil is modest next year.  My guess is he would look for 4 years to finish his career with another big pay. 

[AZ54]

47 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

That is true, BJs motto is you have to block to get the rock.  Speaking of pass pro, the oline kicked butt: Thuney #2 IOL, Wright #4 OT, Dalman #8 IOL, and Jackson #12 IOL. 

The Bears will need to shake some cap.  Swift can be an extension candidate, but doubtful he does this to lessen his pay when guys like Breece Hall are expected to get 10 mil/year for 4. Swifts 8.8 mil is modest next year.  My guess is he would look for 4 years to finish his career with another big pay. 

I Think at best I’d give him a 2 year extension.  One I could get out of in the last year if I want to.  

[ASHKUM BEAR]

40 minutes ago, AZ54 said:

I Think at best I’d give him a 2 year extension.  One I could get out of in the last year if I want to.  

He might if he thinks he can still get one last big payday after the extension expires. Or if he wants a shot at winning superbowl, maybe he takes less.

On another note, David Montgomery has expressed he'd like out of Detroit.  It would be a good story if he came back but a) looking at ways to create cap and b) him and Monangua are both thunder guys.

[Stinger226]

11 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:

FanDuel is +2700

I have to wait until I get home anyway. I'll do a search to find the best odds. +200 is +200, I'll take what I can get. After this coming year, we won't be getting big odds for a long time.

[Stinger226]

9 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:

Yup.  We could pool our money and do a group bet.

Adam if you want to put that together, I'll take a 100 share. 

[BearFan PHX]

So Swift is definitely replaceable, he is not the best back possible, but replacing him would require some resources, and Swift is doing a pretty good job for us.

He surely had a much better season that i thought was possible during the preseason. I feel like Bienemy unlocked him in ways I hadnt seen before.

So I expect we will keep him this year. Maybe we will go for a free agent, but with the defensive overhaul looming, I expect Swift is here for at least this coming year.

[Stinger226]

1 hour ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

That is true, BJs motto is you have to block to get the rock.  Speaking of pass pro, the oline kicked butt: Thuney #2 IOL, Wright #4 OT, Dalman #8 IOL, and Jackson #12 IOL. 

The Bears will need to shake some cap.  Swift can be a extension candidate, but doubtful he does this to lessen his pay when guys like Breece Hall are expected to get 10 mil/year for 4. Swifts 8.8 mil is modest next year.  My guess is he would look for 4 years to finish his career with another big pay. 

 

37 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

He might if he thinks he can still get one last big payday after the extension expires. Or if he wants a shot at winning superbowl, maybe he takes less.

On another note, David Montgomery has expressed he'd like out of Detroit.  It would be a good story if he came back but a) looking at ways to create cap and b) him and Monangua are both thunder guys.

I think the concept of being on a SB bound team may keep him here on a user friendly deal. He's not a  tier one so no one is giving him that kind of money.  

I would give him a 2 year extension with the last year voidable to get this years cap space down. 27-28 are  cap friendly years before we have to pay Caleb.