If you could draft ANY player from this draft, who would it be? (Regardless of pick selection). I'll reveal mine later.

Rueben Bain DE would be my "dream" pick.

Dillion Thienemen S would be my realistic pick.

I dont think they go DT first and then the DEs should be strong to go rd2

1 hour ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

Rueben Bain DE would be my "dream" pick.

Dillion Thienemen S would be my realistic pick.

I dont think they go DT first and then the DEs should be strong to go rd2

I officially hate you. Those are my guys!

Sign me up for a Bain Banger and Dillion Doer. Third would be Avil Reese.

Id say Edge Reuben Bain or S Caleb Downs
And realistically, Edge Gabe Jacas or S Dillon Thienemen

I dont mean to copy you guys, but you did get it right.

Could be a surprise CB or LT too.

Arm length scares me for Bain. Everything else is off the charts, but the 3rd shortest arms for a DE in combine history? Yikes.

I like this guy. He explains the arm issue with Bain as well.

I saw a podcast where they were talking about edge with short arms. There are no hall of famers edge that has short arms. Not my stat and I never checked that statement.

I was trying to get more information on the arm length thing and saw where Matt Miller from ESPN sain no edge rusher drafted in the first round since 1999 had under 31" arms. The teams seemed to be united on arm length for edge players. Micah Parsons were 31 1/2" Bain is under 31".

3 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

I was trying to get more information on the arm length thing and saw where Matt Miller from ESPN sain no edge rusher drafted in the first round since 1999 had under 31" arms. The teams seemed to be united on arm length for edge players. Micah Parsons were 31 1/2" Bain is under 31".

Better not draft Micah Parsons, he has short arms. If a guy can play, and Bain can, I dont care of he has 20" arms lol🦖 If a small school prospect has short arms, pass.

Caleb Downs. He closes so fast on run plays he'd make Brisker look like he's waiting at a bus stop. Safeties that can line up 10-15 yards deep and still make the play around the LOS are game changers. We saw what Kyle Hamilton did against us last year. On top of that he's got the coverage ability for either man or zone.

I like Ruben Bain but arm length issue is real and one place it shows up is his 20% missed tackle rate. He's a hustle player who does not have elite athleticism. On pass rushes he's learned how to keep OT hands off him but that all gets more challenging in the NFL because the OTs are faster and longer. You have to match that with what he'll be able to do as a run defender and I'd gladly take Darnell Wright on him all day long. In the end I just don't see him as an elite 3-down edge defender. I think he'll have good sack production which fans focus on but defensive coordinators know the first order of business is to get the offense into 3rd and long.

10 hours ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

Better not draft Micah Parsons, he has short arms. If a guy can play, and Bain can, I dont care of he has 20" arms lol🦖 If a small school prospect has short arms, pass.

Same thing was said about Will Campbell last year.

25 minutes ago, AZ54 said:

Same thing was said about Will Campbell last year.

Campbell graded out well, superbowl wasnt great, but Patriots are not giving up on him yet as LT.

Bain won't be a Myles Garrett, but can be a Hendrickson, Freeney, Jared Allen... who all had 32" arms. He has a motor and played against top college competition and produced. He plays for the right defensive coach, he can be special.

1 hour ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

Campbell graded out well, superbowl wasnt great, but Patriots are not giving up on him yet as LT.

Bain won't be a Myles Garrett, but can be a Hendrickson, Freeney, Jared Allen... who all had 32" arms. He has a motor and played against top college competition and produced. He plays for the right defensive coach, he can be special.

It wasn’t only the superbowl where Campbell had issues. His problems were throughout the season. Just put him at LG where he belongs and let him succeed.

You could be right, Bain might be like Hendrickson and always struggle against the run. Will he hit that same ceiling on sacks? Part of Hendrickson success on sacks was playing behind a great offense which kept opponents passing and allowed him to focus on the rush.

For me in a top ten pick, which was the basis of this thread, I want a 3 down player. Same reason I preferred Maxx over Trey IF, and only if, we were going to make a big splash at DE.