5 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

Jonah Jackson played very well last year. Not sure they start dumping good players because they have someone backing them up that hasnt proven anything in the NFL. The fact they redid his contract to get more cap space tells me , he is one they are keeping around. Next year there are plenty of players they can cut to make cap space that hasnt played well. Now after the 2027 season, I can see the prospects being groomed to take over for older vets that the Bears have ending their contract.

So your are telling me you have a Jonah Jackson jersey...ugh

23 million is a lot for a right guard for 2027. If they have Newman or Barnett developed into a starter quality by 2027, then they could look to move him like Cole Kmet. Poles will be making moves and yes I expect a few defensive guys to go too but no one is safe if you have options behind them that you feel good with. That is one way to keep them good longer.

4 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

So your are telling me you have a Jonah Jackson jersey...ugh

23 million is a lot for a right guard for 2027. If they have Newman or Barnett developed into a starter quality by 2027, then they could look to move him like Cole Kmet. Poles will be making moves and yes I expect a few defensive guys to go too but no one is safe if you have options behind them that you feel good with. That is one way to keep them good longer.

he always wants to keep every player "why would we give away someone good?" and of course that kind of thinking leads to having an older than average team that has cap issues.

hes a fan, but not much of a GM I think.

1 hour ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

So your are telling me you have a Jonah Jackson jersey...ugh

23 million is a lot for a right guard for 2027. If they have Newman or Barnett developed into a starter quality by 2027, then they could look to move him like Cole Kmet. Poles will be making moves and yes I expect a few defensive guys to go too but no one is safe if you have options behind them that you feel good with. That is one way to keep them good longer.

Add Benedet to the list.

33 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:

Add Benedet to the list.

I’d like to see him at OG this year.

3 hours ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

So your are telling me you have a Jonah Jackson jersey...ugh

23 million is a lot for a right guard for 2027. If they have Newman or Barnett developed into a starter quality by 2027, then they could look to move him like Cole Kmet. Poles will be making moves and yes I expect a few defensive guys to go too but no one is safe if you have options behind them that you feel good with. That is one way to keep them good longer.

So is this what you think the Bears are planning to do or just your opinion that is what they should do?

According to this chart in the NYT we had the best OL last year. I thought maybe top 5 but this says #1. How long has it been since we had a good line? I cant remember the last time and you want to start dumbing assets after this year?

https://nfllines.com/nfl-2025-final-comparative-offensive-line-rankings/

I think Luke Newman will be a eventual starter but not sure it will be 2027. He had 25 snaps last year. I also think The Vanilla Gorilla could make the 53 man roster or PS but he has yet to take a snap in the NFL. We have questions at LT of which Braxton Jones could be starting with Ozzy coming back towards the middle of the year. Dalman retired and we have a average vet and rookie to fill that spot. If everything goes right, Jones will at least be the starter towards the late season or next season. Injuries or bad play can clearly change what happens in 2027 but as of right now , we should still have a top 5 OL. Jackson played well last year (19th out of 81) and assume the same this year. He was third in the league in snaps. (healthy all year) If not injured where is Newman or Barrett getting snaps?

According to OTC we have 31 mil in cap space for 2027. I think Dayo, Garrett, and TJ Edwards will be gone because of the assets we have behind them and their average play. Those 3 give us 37 mil more cap space. As of now Jackson is 29 and Thuney is 34. Wright will make 19 mil with his 5th year option. Jones and Ozzy will be on rookie contracts. We will need to add DTs in 27 because the only ones on the roster will be Gallimore, and soon to be signed van den Berg and I suspect Lovings. We have LBers in place to be able to let Edwards walk.

How much cap money will we need? I think 68 mil will be enough as we add another draft class.

As of now for 2027 we have Trapilo-Thuney-Jones-Jackson-Wright, backups signed are Amegadjie and Newman. I think Barrett, Jones plus bring back Theo and McFadden for 27. I dont see Braxton being back and maybe Kiran if he doesnt improve. We will need a backup C of which Newman could fill that role.

Just because I dont see them getting rid of Jackson after 2026 doesnt mean Im in love with him, logic tells me we are not going into 2027 with Ozzy (coming off an injury, a 35 year old Thuney, a first year starting C and Newman or Barrett thrown into the RG role.

Amagadje might go to OG too. From what I've read he is a tremendous specimen and just couldnt stay healthy. Of course thats all talk until we see it on the field, and i wouldnt be surprised if he went to OG -OR- didnt make the team - either is possible.

But hes a sleeper.

2 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

So is this what you think the Bears are planning to do or just your opinion that is what they should do?

According to this chart in the NYT we had the best OL last year. I thought maybe top 5 but this says #1. How long has it been since we had a good line? I cant remember the last time and you want to start dumbing assets after this year?

https://nfllines.com/nfl-2025-final-comparative-offensive-line-rankings/

I think Luke Newman will be a eventual starter but not sure it will be 2027. He had 25 snaps last year. I also think The Vanilla Gorilla could make the 53 man roster or PS but he has yet to take a snap in the NFL. We have questions at LT of which Braxton Jones could be starting with Ozzy coming back towards the middle of the year. Dalman retired and we have a average vet and rookie to fill that spot. If everything goes right, Jones will at least be the starter towards the late season or next season. Injuries or bad play can clearly change what happens in 2027 but as of right now , we should still have a top 5 OL. Jackson played well last year (19th out of 81) and assume the same this year. He was third in the league in snaps. (healthy all year) If not injured where is Newman or Barrett getting snaps?

According to OTC we have 31 mil in cap space for 2027. I think Dayo, Garrett, and TJ Edwards will be gone because of the assets we have behind them and their average play. Those 3 give us 37 mil more cap space. As of now Jackson is 29 and Thuney is 34. Wright will make 19 mil with his 5th year option. Jones and Ozzy will be on rookie contracts. We will need to add DTs in 27 because the only ones on the roster will be Gallimore, and soon to be signed van den Berg and I suspect Lovings. We have LBers in place to be able to let Edwards walk.

How much cap money will we need? I think 68 mil will be enough as we add another draft class.

As of now for 2027 we have Trapilo-Thuney-Jones-Jackson-Wright, backups signed are Amegadjie and Newman. I think Barrett, Jones plus bring back Theo and McFadden for 27. I dont see Braxton being back and maybe Kiran if he doesnt improve. We will need a backup C of which Newman could fill that role.

Just because I dont see them getting rid of Jackson after 2026 doesnt mean Im in love with him, logic tells me we are not going into 2027 with Ozzy (coming off an injury, a 35 year old Thuney, a first year starting C and Newman or Barrett thrown into the RG role.

I only said they could cut or trade him in 2027, which they could.. Why, he gets paid 23 million. Why they probably won't is they only gain 3 million. But because he had a good year doesnt mean the next guy wont make it better and be cheaper. They will add and subtract players and we will see who in 8 months or so.

42 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

I only said they could cut or trade him in 2027, which they could.. Why, he gets paid 23 million. Why they probably won't is they only gain 3 million. But because he had a good year doesnt mean the next guy wont make it better and be cheaper. They will add and subtract players and we will see who in 8 months or so.

ASHKUM, you did the calculation wrong, we would gain $13M. And that just makes your point all the stronger anyway.

58 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

I only said they could cut or trade him in 2027, which they could.. Why, he gets paid 23 million. Why they probably won't is they only gain 3 million. But because he had a good year doesnt mean the next guy wont make it better and be cheaper. They will add and subtract players and we will see who in 8 months or so.

Of course he could be cut or traded . If he gets hurt or plays bad the backups will get the chance to show what they can do. I could see more of a question with Thuney as he will be 35 after this year as far as moving on but only if they have a replacement ready. He will only cost 5 mil against the cap where Jackson costs 10 mil in dead cap. If they are healthy and playing well, I dont see them moving on from either until after the 2027 season when they have to pay Caleb.

46 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

ASHKUM, you did the calculation wrong, we would gain $13M. And that just makes your point all the stronger anyway.

I messed that up, but you are correct 10 in dead and in 13 savings. Jackson would be the 3rd highest paid member of the Bears

40 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

Of course he could be cut or traded . If he gets hurt or plays bad the backups will get the chance to show what they can do. I could see more of a question with Thuney as he will be 35 after this year as far as moving on but only if they have a replacement ready. He will only cost 5 mil against the cap where Jackson costs 10 mil in dead cap. If they are healthy and playing well, I dont see them moving on from either until after the 2027 season when they have to pay Caleb.

I would extend Thuney another year or two. His play hasnt declined and all you hear are players wanting to play next to him to gain knowledge. He is not only a top 3 Guard, but one of your biggest recruiters.

This is nothing the Bears need to consider until the end of the year. Then I can say you heard it here first haha.