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Special teams and pass pro are what teams need as a #3. Seen a tweet that dont be surprised if the Bears take a #3 RB after camp cuts.

Also I’d take Wills over Benedet for the swing tackle. I have no doubt Theo has him beat on the run blocking but last year that took the entire Oline 6 weeks into the season to get down. No reason to think Wills won’t benefit in the same way from more time. A couple folks are commenting that Wills looked good at RT. I think that gets decided in the next game. I can see a world where they keep Wills as primary backup out of the gate with Ozzy also on the 53 and focused on reps at LT. If nobody takes him Theo goes to practice squad.

I think I’m choosing Ahmed as RB3 over Roschon. He seemed to play with more quickness and burst this week. I don't know if he’s still getting into shape from his injury or if it was just my perception. Regardless he gets 3 to 5 yards more than Roschon on any given play. I’m sure Roschon will win in pass pro but if you want a back for 3rd and long it’s Ahmed.

Word.

What I saw (sans all 22 😉) was Jones get dominated on a few plays. Admittedly I didn’t watch the whole game from end to end but there were a few times I saw Jones getting pushed back like he was on roller skates. And I think at that point it was against the Bengals 2s or 3s…so yeah. I’ve always liked Braxton and wish he’d rise to the occasion but alas, it appears he’s peaked in his ability. Benedet, I think, was playing guard (??) late in the game and looked …. Meh. I hope Trapilo is the answer for the left side and really (more importantly) hope he doesn’t rush back but becomes the foundation for years to come.

Just think if Eberflus never ran into Kirans dad at the golf course. We probably never draft him. I am happy that era is over but those draft mistakes take a toll and years to recover from.

Still watching with the clicker. Kiran is just always playing at 3/4 speed. I don’t see how that would ever survive inside where things happen quicker. Number 38 on defense is cut worthy as soon as he gets off the plane.

I expected a bad game - but that was real bad. Our first string defense has been cooked in the two drives it played and we saw a ton of overall sloppiness…including what seems like some increased sloppiness from the offense in practice. I hope we see them respond strong and coaches use it to push right buttons to ensure team is ready to roll. LTs both seem to suck - Theo has some potential given how raw he was to start his career but we need to see progress otherwise he is still the clear number 2b and a solid swing tackle. Braxton is a clear 2a - basically meaning we don’t have a true starter. Kiran and Jedrick are worse - both probably cut candidates unless someone sees Kiran as a guard candidate. Trapillo plan has to be to have ready for 2nd quarter of the season - presuming he will be on IR first 4 weeks but hopefully able to practice with team and be getting reps.

On further review. Jordan VFB looks like he’ll be the real deal. Lynch and Kromah returned to baseline anonymous status. I still like Loving. He’s quick and strong. at DE I agree that Dayo looked better but not special. Given the recovery from injury he might turn into a better player than the one we saw last year. Dexter definitely is if the line quicker. I like our new center Jones. I think he’s going to be very good for us. He’s very good on convo blocks peeling off quickly to his second target. Theo was just bad at LT. Braxton is just Braxton but that’s an upgrade over Theo.

LT watch. We didn't have yesterday. Braxton would set nicely then not adjust. He was worse than I'd ever seen him. You can tell that he doesn't love what he does. Theo gave more effort, but was also terrible. I would be interested to see PFF grades on them. My desire, at this point, is that they don't rush Ozzy back and risk his health. Hoping for a good performance from one of them next week.

Today was Keeper Declaration Day. Being a newbie, I have to ask what might be silly questions. Do we post them in this thread, or is there a way to do so on the Team Yahoo pages? I assume that once all declarations are made, rosters are cleared except for keepers? Player pool adjusted? For what it is worth, I have decided not to keep any players from last year's roster. I will start with a clean slate.

Training camp. Long days with little rest in between. Team on the road. Now they get to do it again this week.

The play calling felt off today.

yes! this was a sloppy, forgettable game. Hard to watch, really. The Offense was cooking until the holding call, and then that was it for the 1s. There were some individual flashes on D, but I didnt see a team playing together really.

Anyone disappointed that the Bears did not show for this scrimmage? I felt they were dominated the whole game. Our starters vs their 2s and so on. Hope it is just "practice"

Dayo might be a surprise, he did decent tonight with pressure. Dexter had a pressure and a dumb offsides.he seems to get off the ball the couple plays i watched him. 96, when he is in, I am paying attention.

NFL Network won't broadcast the game until the replay at 6am AZ time. I'll get it recorded and watch tomorrow. Some tidbits I can glean from what appears to be an overall bad game. Kaden Davis was returning the first two kick offs from the Bengals. Combine that with the few first team snaps in practice in Cincy and it's clear the coaches are giving him a good look toward staying on the 53. Caleb looked good before the penalty then off afterward. He became Caleb of old with the big game hunting mentality trying to get it all back quickly. Don't like the fact he and Rome were off on the route read for the 3rd and 20 play. That's why they practice. Bears Wire called Jordan van den Berg one of the studs of the game and said he looked good garnering 3 tackles. I'll focus on him tomorrow. We need a good surprise on the Dline, or two.

i agree with this. If Benedet can get his footwork and reaction time to outside moves a little tighter, i think he is our best option behind Trapilo. But he has struggled with those. Personally, id never trust Braxton Jones, but I know it's not like there are lot of options, so i understand the move. But he is still a liability on the field. I still have hope for Benedet, but he's not the answer either, just maybe the best #2 option.

I had no problem seeing them bring back Braxton and add Wills to up the competition. Benedict is a bull dog, but limited on pass protection due to length. He is better technical and effort. Kiran and Jones seem like the same baby huey. Have the prototype body and athletism but lazy with no kill mentality. Wills is probably closer to Benedict body wise. Then we have Ozzy, who i think will get there and be a solid LT, but doesn't have that agility the others have. So we have 5 guys with a mole. I dont see them in position to draft a gem for a couple years, so we need Ozzy to do all the right things when back.

Agree ASHKUM. There's a mental effect that happens when you have a choice between a limited number of options. it's like "which spice girl was the cutest?" and the answer is empircally none of them, but because there are 5 of them you automatically decide which one is the best of the group. Street vendors of cheap jewelry use this trick all the time. They have some average crap earrings, so they put them out next to 3 other ones that are awful. They probably dont even have a supply of the bad ones, just a bag full of the average ones. And next to the others, the mediocre ones look good enough to buy. Itd be true if 2 were playing well too, wed probably all be saying one or the other of them was the best one. But yeah, putting 4 mediocre players together deosnt mean you can craft a good one out of them because of the other ones. I made that point here a few weeks ago, and it seems to be playing out. For me, Benedet is the best of the group, but maybe thats just me falling prey to what i described above. Probably the truth is that none of them is good enough. If Trapilo isnt ready opening day, we will find out who they go with. But that doesnt even mean they wont replace them by week 4 or something with someone else. Hope Trapilo is on his way back quickly, and can play at a high level when he returns.

Next week of practice will be it. They need to get one of these guys capable of playing average. Hard to believe none of the 4 players elevated to take the job.

Benedet not looking perfect either, but he's done pretty well in there I think. I think the main takeaway is that none of them is really good enough to convincingly take the job. So like i thought earlier, having 4 mid players doesnt create a good one. Thank God Trapilo is coming back at some point. He's obviously better than the rest of them "put together"

Second team is in there, Benedet at RT, and Jones still at LT - we will get a longer look at him.

Go for it, just dont whine when you get it back. For you to to think that me suggesting you watch the footage and come up with your own point of view is arrogance on my point, you really have to be butthurt and twisting things. I respect your opinion, I just wonder if youd see what i saw if you watched the same tape. Arrogance would be me saying I see the film better than you, that i know more about it or something. But i routinely say it isnt rocket science, its not ME, its the film. For any of us. What I see looks kinda obvious to me, so I naively think we might agree more if we all saw it. So that would mean I would respect your point of view, and think wed share it. If i thought you were a dumbass, and I was so far above you, then Id think "even if you saw the all 22 you still wouldnt see it ya moron" but I dont think that. So youre just interpreting me all wrong. Youre so busy trying to prove Im a jerk (Im not) that youre forced to take ridiculous positions. Im like some kind of ghost in your head LOL Im just a guy that likes the Bears. People that know me say im nice. I take care of my family, friends and neighbors. I'm a good dad. I knew a lot of people like you in NYC. I got it, youre tough. Cool. Me too. This whole thing is nonsense. If you speak roughly, Ill answer back that way. Ill assume youre enjoying it. If you decide to speak respectfully and normally, then thats what youll get back from me. Its really your choice. Just like watching the tape would be too. its not such a big deal dude.

It's too bad that Benedet has had troubles this week, because I still dont see Braxton as a good player. He just had like 8 or 9 snaps, and already gave up two pressures and a holding call that stalled our drive. Yuck!