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I agree with most of your points. I think with going for it on 4th down, you should never do it beyond the 50 yard line unless your behind and time is running out. Its situational and depending on who your playing when in the red zone. We are starting to identify as a power running team as our OL plays better so once we can get a signature short yardage play, I would understand it more but we havent established one yet. I think losing LaPorta will have a large effect on their offense and the center position has already shown problems. Playing the Eagles is an outlier. Decker and Sewell both had some injuries' issures going into that game .

I remember after the first two games on X people were saying Byard was slowing down and people complaining about his play and our S choices in him and Brisker coming off an injury. Then brought up how we should have drafted one high. People just have to let the season play out when judging players. You cant go by one or two games. Poles will make him an offer after the season and why would he not want to stay on a up and coming team and play for DA. At 31 I dont see anyone offering a big contact to him.

this is a problem i have been having with the bears coaching staff myself. going for it on 4th down is fine if it's late in the 4th quarter and you are down, or if you are down multiple scores in the 4th midway through and time is a factor. but going for it around the 50 or even in our own territory to me is bad play calling especially when your defense can't stop anybody. in this game they conceded points to the vikes by doing this. in the first 3 quarters if you are in field goal range you TAKE the points. this has been going on league wide and it's semi pro or amateur football that never would have flown 25+ years ago.

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I have TMobile, and I can sign on with safari on my iPhone when on cellular - I hope that helps?

I can only log on when on wifi. For some reason, my cell internet browser cannot find www.talkbears.com. Did something change on this site? I use duck for search engine and have Verizon.

Other notable injuries: Steelers: Alonzo Hightower LB -pectoral (usually not good) Jalen Warren RB -ankle, Darius Slay DB- concussion. Eagles: Lane Johnson OT- liz franc fracture- testing but feared out fo season Packers- Josh Jacob's RB- knee bruise - might miss a game but should be good by Bears game

Line has slid to CHI -3, I am sure it will move a little more once it is official on Rodgers. They are saying 50/50 right now lol.

I am sure their fanbase is split, some will want to give him more time. Others are probably done with him. He did nothing in college to warrant being a first rounder. Williams, Daniels, and Nix all had the pedigrees. Maye had a shorter period of success but that plus his stature made him at least enticing. Everyone knew Penix wouldn't last with 50-year-old knees.

I never expected the wheels to fall off. They have too many vets and talent for that to happen. From an organizational standpoint it’s the fraying or cracks around the edges I watch for that slowly builds up. Our frayed bits and pieces are slowly being glued together. On the other hand they seem to have more cracks now than earlier this year. I expect they’ll rebound next week but what does next year look like?

The "offensive downfall" was figured to be more cataclysmic with Johnson gone and Center Frank Ragnow retiring. Yet Goff's stats appear to still be on par (or close) to last year. What I saw late in last nights' game was (as you mentioned) the oline's inability to block and Goff's statue-esque non-movement in the pocket which will kill them every time.

https://lionswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2025/11/16/dan-campbell-will-call-lions-offensive-plays-for-rest-of-2025-season/87306830007/ Reading this it’s s hard not to think the Bears and the Lions are two ships about to pass each other in the night. https://lionswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2025/11/17/lions-week-11-takeaways-fourth-downs-offense/87318398007/

Yes they are. Campbell took over play calling. I thought they hired an OC to replace Johnson? Detroit’s defense looked good.

Probably because they met up with a Vic Fangio led defense. Not sure how it shook out after yesterday, but they were in the top 5 in almost all offensive categories until then.

amen. it's ridiculous. Absolutely. Caleb is not a finished product by any means. This week, the Vikings blitzed on 67% of the plays, and Caleb was under instant pressure. Benedet has not been great in pass protection. What Caleb can do is somehow magically get out of most sacks. This isnt because he has an ego and is playing USC "hero ball" - thats an old media narrative that should be dead by now for anyone watching the games. Escaping pressure is not big play hunting. Also, the Vikings blitzed and played man to man a lot. That means less or no help over the top. The DBs were playing tight and close, so that means the way you beat them is over the top with the long ball. One of Caleb's biggest weaknesses in my view is his inaccuracy on long balls. The Vikings were smart to play him that way. To dare him to beat them over the top. It plays to a weakness, and it forces the play to take longer, which, when coupled with extra pressure, makes things tough on Caleb. But we will improve his pass protection. We will find another player if necessary to play LT. Caleb's long term future is still bright. But his holding the ball longer and throwing long passes this week wasn't ego or hero ball. It was a consequence of the defensive game plan, and a lack of pass protection. His inaccuracy on those early long passes IS on Caleb. And that would have calmed down the blitz if he'd hit on one. There is blame to go around, but if you think Caleb was playing hero ball, and is likely to be replaced in the middle of next year, then you don't really know football at all.

I think everyone is fully behind Caleb and wants him to succeed and are not interested in what any other QB is doing, including Justin, anyone in Caleb’s class, or Bryce Young (if miraculously he turns into a star). I think we want to see consistent growth from Caleb which I don’t think is 100% there yet. However, there are still factors outside his control that aren't helping. The biggest factor I feel has changed, and I hope this doesn't change. I not half expecting a ridiculous play or playa that massively puts us in an insurmountable position in a game. Yesterday I never felt that we could get out s**t together and win the game. Maybe when Caleb fully gets everything together and the media get behind him we will start getting good officiating, because at the moment it seems the league wants the Bears to not succeed. If we can get Jaylon Johnson and Kyler Gordon back soon, and they get up speed. I think our defense can become a lot stronger because a good to great secondary will improve our pass rush. How satisfying is it to sit at the top of the North and be the number 3 seed. I didn't expect that this year. I would rather be in front and have our things in our hands instead of chasing the Lions and Packers.

I wish people could just move on from the stupid shit they’ve said in the past and just admit it was stupid. Hell I’ve said sooo many stupid things in the heat of an argument about this team. It happens. Been pouring my heart and soul into loving them for more than 50 years. Anyone who doesn’t see Caleb’s massive potential is being willfully ignorant.

Totally agree of course. Just watching him, he is getting better each week, and has all the traits of an all time great. Will he reach that height? I dunno, no one can tell, but to think we are going to abandon Caleb Williams based on what weve seen this season is possibly the dumbest thing Ive ever heard. The good news is, when he reaches the next level, which I absolutely think he will, the guy that said we'd get rid of him will probably be talking about how great he is. Instead of how good Justin Fields is (yes still!). There's more to say, but I promised I wouldnt, so I wont. But sheesh.

We don’t hire the best coaches only to throw the baby out with the bath water.

Well thats an old media narrative for sure. Just so Im clear, youre saying you think the Bears will abandon Caleb Williams in the middle of next season. Thats your take. Astonishing really.

The one thing PIT does well is prevent TDs. That has saved them. They are also 2nd in the NFL in missed tackles (Loveland game). I still can't believe how good the Bears defense has been on 3rd downs. Now they need to stop allowing first downs on first and second down so much. 3rd Down Defense: CHI - 2nd (33.7%) PIT - 24th (41.7%) 4th Down Defense: CHI - 11th (53.3%) PIT - 27th (72.0%) Red Zone Defense (TD Rate): CHI - 14th (58.3%) PIT - 6th (51.4%) Yards Allowed per Drive: CHI - 22nd (32.5) PIT - 28th (35.1)

It’s outside the thread topic but I checked out a couple Viking’s fan post game discussions on YouTube. That loss hit them like a hard kick to the Skol sack. The fan base is definitely out on McCarthy right now.

I don’t know what’s going on in Detroit but the further they get from Ben Johnson the more their offense looks like the Bears old offense. I didn’t see the whole game but in the fourth quarter the Eagles weren’t doing anything special but Detroit Oline didn’t always know who to block.