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Just listened to lance Briggs on CHGO. He actually said if a LB has 70 touches, he should have 20 combo tackles. His best year was 2006 where he averaged 8 tackles a game.

Yeah, Im not saying it's stupid or anything to think we should keep DJ. I have a lot of respect for him as a player. We can disagree maybe on HOW good he is, but I don't think that's really the question anyway. I think he's very good. Take D'Andre Swift for example. At $4M a year, hes a no brainer to keep and feature. At $8M its a fair price given his recent production and renewed energy. At $16M a year hes a clear cut or trade candidate. That's not a slight on him - he's the same player the whole time, it's just a matter of price. I personally just don't think DJ is worth $28M a year. If someone trades for him, they'll only pay $16M a year (we eat the rest) and that's a much more reasonable price for his production in my opinion. I could go on and say he quits on routes, sometimes has terrible body language etc etc but I really dont want to disparage him, because all in all, I think hes a pretty damned good receiver. I'm not thinking we will trade him because I'm mad at him or he "sucks" - that's not it at all. It's just the price tag is too high for what you get. And this becomes especially true when you look at our cap situation, and the clear assets needed to stock the defense. If you traded DJ for a 3rd rounder even, you'd add $16.5M to the free agency spend, and a 3rd round pick. That could be three starters. Or it could help pay for a stud DE, and the 3rd might help you move up a little in the first round to draft the DE's understudy. Just that would help a lot. Or think of it this way. Imagine DJ is a free agent, but we have the rest of our roster and WRs. If we have $31M in cap space, with this current defense and offense, would you spend $28.5M of it on DJ Moore? I like DJ! He's just too expensive in my opinion?

Drafts are a process, some develop quickly and others take 2 to 3 yrs. If we go by this years standard, our coaches can develop players. I think Newman, Turner, even Hyppolite can become starters. The DB is the only one that has a big question mark. Zak Fraiser It will end up being one of our best drafts of all time.

Coming with first in the division gets us more winning teams. We have the worst schedule last year in winning percentage for teams as a bad team. I'll take what being better gives us.

Everyone has different opinions on players if we all agreed on everything this would be a boring discussion board. DJ has not had a good year compared to past performances but when you have many elite weapons, no one has had a great year. That puts him in the position to be odd man out. I personally think they keep him one more year and won't be here in 27. Look at SF as an example, lots of people hurt and they still keep winning because they have good depth. I think just as we get a top 10 offense, they are not going to dismantle it. DJ will have more value as an in season trade prospect as other teams have injury problems. This gives us the ability to have both Rome and Burden a chance to grow their roles. If anyone was paying attention both have been injured this year. Injuries happen every year and BJ is not taking away assets ( DJ and Kmet) that could stunt the growth of Caleb in which should be his breakout year. I think there will be a big shift on defense that could see a lot of new faces. I think Edmunds is gone but a few starters will also leave as we rebuild a defense thru DAs scheme. They will redo some contracts and cut and trade a few players but on defense. The draft will be a big contribution to what we do. This draft could all be on defense this year. These are what I project the bears will do. They could surprise me and go after a Crosby type but I don't think we are one player away from a great defense. Some contracts will prohibit us from getting rid of them this year but big roster change are coming in 27.

Well said. I wouldnt fight to the death for DA, but if it was my call I'd keep him, for all the reasons you just listed.

Making plays yes but the point about him doing something special. Nah we haven’t seen that. This is Chicago we know what a great LB looks like on the field.

At the beginning of the year, Edmunds was the leading tackler on the team and made some big plays. Pro bowl level may have been a reach ( many Bear pundits was saying that) but he was playing well.

all the time our offense was on the bench could have been scoring opportunities for us and not them. while 19 points sounds reasonable, and is, it's the riding time and the stupid play calls by their coach. add one freaky intto that also. The offense could have counted the Lions TOP with one of their own. Didn't happen. Defense did NOT lose the game. Team effort...

I don't get the mentality of dumping the DC after his first year. Like people have stated, he doesn't necessarily have the players to fit his scheme, plus injuries have been huge . I think we were down 6 starters for a couple of games. Starters have come back but not playing up to there levels. A lot of TOs and red zone Def has been good. Before you get rid of DA, give him the players he wants before you judge him.

The bold above, I vehemently disagree with. Edmunds has never played at an all pro level. He just happened to be at the right place at the right time. He's never made a play that makes him look special. He may be the best five yard gain tackler I've ever seen. Everything else is spot on, IMO.

When we lose, the whole team takes responsibility but when you hold a team to one TD and 19 points, you should win a game. Did the defense play well, of course not but I think the defense did their part to keep us in the game. The defense has gotten people back but not one of them have played well. JJ isn't himself. Edmunds was playing at all pro level before the injury, now he is a liability. Tj Edwards has been ok but not at the same level from before. I think we were doing better when backups were playing. Gardner-Johnson is not good at the NB spot. He had some big plays since coming here but speed at the slot kills him. Stevenson didn't play a snap last game. The defense is a mess but have played descent in the red zone and with TOs. That's the best we're going to get , it can't be fixed until next year. Gordon is coming back but I don't expect a lot out of him. We are going to win or lose with our offense. Our expectations have been raised because of our cardiac finishes but can that work in the playoffs? I think we can win any game but will not dominate any games. We need to appreciate our 11-6 record, division win and 2 nd conference rankings but we aren't ready for a SB run just yet.

True. Coaching finding a way to make lemonade out of lemons. Even against Detroit so he gave up was 19pts. That's a very winnable game

The current players dont match ANY scheme. They are "built" for Cover 2 zone but they dont have a pass rush to make that work. They are too slow for man to man, and when we blitz 7 no one gets home. I dont think there is a single player on our defense that we couldnt live without. Some will stay, and some will go depending on replacement options and trade interest etc, but I see a lot of turnover coming for our defense this offseason. I'm gonna say at least 5 new starters not currently on the roster by midseason. Could easily be 7 or more.

right! DJ is a talented WR, but he is just way too expensive.

not really? they were unable to stop the Lions from eating up tons of clock, and scoring. The offense might have looked better if theyd had the ball to get into a rhythm. And then there is the eye test. We were terrible. If the Lions had been down 21 points coming out of halftime, they clearly could have scored that many if they needed it. Im not giving the offense a pass here, but the defense stunk. Like extra stinky. One of the worst defensive performances ive ever seen. Right up there with last week against SF and the week before against the Pack. When your opponent is up two scores, you cant point to their offense slowing down as a product of our defensive play. They didnt punt much.

I agree the scripted plays should give us an advantage if Johnson is doing his job, and something seems amiss. Hopefully he will be able to look at what worked in the other games and factor this into his scripted plays.

I don't know if any of the current defensive players match the scheme. The secondary, outside of the INTs has been subpar in coverage, and it was supposed to be a strength. Again I know injuries, but there are way too many wide open receivers while the DBs are playing off or in a soft zone.

Johnson needs to ensure his scripted plays are infallible including the audibles. The offense cannot start slowly. I hope they have just been over cautious with Rome and he can be a large factor in this game. I hope Johnson doesn’t go away from the run game. I think that was his mistake on the last possession we had v Detroit at the weekend. It is crucial that the defense plays a penalty free game, and doesn’t give cheap 1st downs. However, if we can be productive on offense, all the defense needs to do is to be good in the red zone, and we can win this game.

I agree, we can hold off until we are discussing what to do at pick 32.

I would love a blowout win, domination for 60 minutes. Put the entire league on notice in the playoffs. Getting Odunze and Gordon back (hopefully) would be a huge boost.

The scripted plays are just not working for whatever reason. I looked back at the last 6 games first 3 plays. How predictable are they being? There are only 8 possible combinations with a run and pass with 3 plays. In the last 6 games, every game had a different combination. To me that can't be a coincidence. To never have the same play sequence out of 8 possible sequences, in 6 games seems deliberate. I was thinking they were being too predictable but that isn't the case, so I really have no clue what is going wrong. PHI Run, Pass, Run GB Run, Pass, Pass CLE Pass, Run, Pass GB Run, Run, Pass SF Pass, Pass, Pass DET Pass, Run, Run

I see the macro view as the offense will take strides to be better and I'd hope the defense would also be better, but I'd also expect turnovers to come back, which might mean as a whole the defense stands par for the course but in a more sustainable way...with an improved defense overall offsetting loss of the ball bouncing there way a few times...than we see a step or two up on the offense and more consistent high end offensive play. Tougher competition too...which might mean....11/12 wins against tougher competition looks similar in record to what we did this year...but as a stronger, better positioned team for the long-run. But that is my last and only post on next year until this season ends...and hopefully that isn't until they are holding the lombardi trophy

It didn't come down to average because we caused the most turnovers. Not defending the D, but they play a scheme that depends on turnovers. Our front seven doesn't match the scheme yet.

Lets just go out and have the Bears play their most complete end to end game yet and decimate the Packers on Saturday night!!! Lets go Bears!!!