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He is a little haevy for a guard and there has been speculation that at his size teams are looking to kick him outside but his conditioning is mostly what's in question.

This is one of the kids I thought the Bears would target because they seem to try to find these diamonds in the rough. I watch this guy workout and he can absolutely fly. I like this pick and the Moore pick. I wonder what the Bears are becoming Vandy North?

I like wrs Iglesias, Barden and Knox ,DE Sidbury and Johnson,LBs Jason Williams, Kaluka Maiava OG Green S Johnson, Underwood and Vaughn OT Parrish,Kropog.

As a Bear fan since 1966 I have to say this is the biggest trade since I have been following the team.We have always traded for the Mike Phipps of the world or signed the Kordell Stewarts of the league and today they actually pulled the trigger and I couldn't begin to say what I feel because Iam numb.

The only way I look at a chicken is with a beer can stuck up the center half filled with BBQ sauce on my grill.LOL

Some psychologist suggest that in the case of some mass murderers their behavior can be tied into the way they may have treated the family pet.If a murderer was abusive to animals or pets as a child they tend to not have any value for life at all Human or animal as an adult.

Nfo is this more an indictment of JA or the offensive line coach who has yet to develop any of the Bears OL they have drafted?Lots of teams take late round lineman and turn them into seviceable players but Heastand(sp?) doesn't.Beekman is the first guy drafted by the Bears to actually make the starting lineup.I still get sick seeing Colombo do okay in Dallas and then the very next time JA takes a first round OL he gets injured.Would you be so gungho about going after another guy so soon?At 18 what will be available at OT the 4th rated prospect at the position.Isn' that similar to what we got last season in Williams?With this offensive staff this might be the only way to go because all rookies have trouble seeing the field with Forte being the exception.

Maybe that's me being a little naive since I attended a racially mixed high school I learned about diverse cultures at 14 years of age.

I read that post also but in the true meaning of "equality" we shouldn't look down on someone because of their age either.I consider my responding to his post as me sharing my experience in life to someone younger than myself.

The second mock is a lot better looking IMO but Brian Robiskie as JA's second rounder would be shocking since he tends to take a reach at pick number 2 all the time.Brian Robiskie in the 2nd makes sense.

IMO as a dog owner the people who Vick was involved with in the dog fighting ring all have the same thing in mind.They think that it is sport.I would compare it to the guys who mount Elk heads and Lions etc. on their walls from safaris,hunting etc.I think all of it is cruel and should stop.That being said do I think Vick could add something to the Bears?No! Why? Its simple he was never a polished QB in the first place and then what would the Bears do with him? I think it would be similar to what happened when the Bears brought in Kordell Stewart.If the Bears want an athletic type mobile QB like Vick then draft Pat White.He has the same skill set in a smaller package.

First of all the first part of your original post you stated that his comments about Vick were skin color related.Did you or did you not post that? What does him thinking that Vick deserves another chance have to do with oppression? Brotha was a slang expression I used because people of my race refer to each other that way.You didn't realize the can of worms you have opened up by making that statement.Saying all minorites look after each other "historically" is somewhat racist.Your saying that Italians, Irish and others don't look out for each other? Come on dude! You have no idea what minorities think and the fact that you said historically sounds as if this is something you read or heard.I know what it is like to be a minority in this country and have known what oppression feels like first hand. BTW I could care less what Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton do or say.Lovie Smith and I are the same age you think he might have a similar train of thought with me since Iam person who is diehard Bear Fan?

Iam the owner of two dogs and have owned dogs all my adult life.Lovie's speaking about Vick is totally football related and the fact that some one on this board is insinuating that Lovie is doing something based on his skin color when he is in an interracial marriage is just a lack of thinking things all the way through.Bearsox be advised that if you are going to continue to post here there are African Americans like myself who take exception to someone refering to THE BEARS HEAD COACH by his skin color.If he doesn't do his job he should be launched without regards to his ethnicity.Herm Edwards sucked in KC and Romeo Crennel sucked in Cleveland both deserved to lose their jobs and I could careless if the two "Brothas" lost their jobs.This board is about the Bears and football nothing else.

Reports have him preferring the Bears and the Ravens because he thinks both teams fit his playing style.Which tells me he wants to play for a run first team.The fact that he has only played LT in the NFL also is telling me that if he comes here maybe Williams might be moved inside to LG.

Thanks a lot You are helping fuel my arguement with my son who thinks Brooks is the better Penn State prospect.

The list shows all the WR's that were drafted by JA for this HC and whoever his staff was.Berrian played one contract for the Bears and then he was done. If you had read my post completely you would have seen that I mentioned that if Bennett or any other WR was having problems who was responsible to make sure that the problems were corrected.Bennett was here for all of TC and worked exclusively with his position coach.As a Coach how can you not recognize if someone is struggling with the plays?I also did not imply that Drake was responsible for Bennett not being active for games but I am throwing him under the bus for us going the whole year without seeing the 3rd round pick on the field . Zack Bowman who was picked after Bennett was placed on the field and even made a significant contribution in the one game that he was available to play in. Marcus Harrison saw significant time and his position coach got launched.Under Lovie the Bears have developed several strong defensive players whether it was Briggs,Tillman,Payne,Harris Hillenmeyer,Mc Bride, Graham and even Stelz made a play in a game.The same cannot be said for the offense.

CB I think Berrian had success despite Drake. I remember in his rookie season when he caught passes from Craig Krentzel under Terry Shea as OC and then the great Turner and Drake showed up and he had injury and scheme problems with Orton as a rookie.When Grossman assumed the QB spot Berrian blossomed.Why? Beacuse Grossman throws the deep pass well and thats what Berrian is good at.If you are looking for him to be a go to WR you will be waiting and the Vikes found this out. He is a deep threat that can take the safety out the box. So the dump Drake club is growing.

Do you consider this guy a big name? The Bears played the Texans this past season and I don't remember hearing his name called. Maybe I'm misreading some sarcasm.

Wesson You know what I think your absolutely right and thats why this is so hard to gage.That is the one position that I omitted. That was a big mistake on my part because this player will be in a similar situation to Olsen and Pittsburgh's Heath Miller.Both of those TE prospects were in a weak group in their draft years.

These are the guys who I watched play and think are NFL caliber players that are not being talked about as much as they should be. The list: Quarterbacks Brian Johnson Utah -his Height and durabilty are in question but he has taken snaps for 4 years and if you saw how he performed in the Sugar Bowl against Alabama you would think he has an ability to develop on the next level. Drew Willy Buffalo- his level of competition is in question but IMO he is a more polished prospect than the much more heralded Nate Davis of Ball State from the same conference(MAC). Mike Reilly Central Washington- his school alone and its location makes him over looked and at the Senior Bowl he showed that he could make a lot of the "NFL" throws but again the level of comp comes into play. Running Backs Javarius Williams Tenn State -in the Senior Bowl he showed that he could run hard catch the ball and hold his own with the big boys.I like this guy as a change fo pace back. Rashad Jennings Liberty- nice size decent speed and runs hungry.This could be a 2nd day steal for a team that is looking for a 1-2 punch at RB. Herb Donaldson Western Ill-at 5-10 225 the first guy that comes to mind is Aaron Stecker who is also a former Leatherneck alum.This school tends to sneak a plyer in the NFL every once in a while and he could be the most recent one to follow the likes of MNike Wagner,Bryan Cox and Stecker. Wide Recievers Deon Butler Penn State-his height is the knock against him but his speed and ability to go up and get the ball in the air is what I like about him. I see him as Bobby Engram with more speed. Jamarko Simmons Western Mich, With this school having a pro prospect at QB that will be highlly rated next year you have to take notice as to who he is throwing to an Simmons who lacks foot speed is very similar to the previous Bronco WR that made to the NFL Greg Jennings.I'll also give a shout out to Tony Schefler Jay Cutler's TE that was a 2 sport star at WMU. Tight End Jared Bronson Central Washington-if Mike Reilly can be a prospect,who was he throwing to? This was his favorite target he showed that he has decent hands and like all TE prospects his blocking could use some work.He is a high energy guy. Defensive End Lawrence Sidbury Richmond-He has a tweener body but has the frame to carry more weight .Right now he is a rush specialist that should develop into a Roosevelt Colvin type player. Defensive Backs Dominique Johnson Jackson State at 6-2 he has the size that teams covet at CB but he needs to prove that he has legitmate speed to run with the top WRs Sherrod Martin Troy- tenacious is what I can say about this guy and if you have been following what this school has been doing since the De Marcus Ware days they will play defense and they have been developing NFL type players.

Every year the draft has strange twist that are unpredictable. This year I have a feeling that it will be even more strange this year.According to the talking heads OT and WR is going to dominate the first round with about 6 picks each that leaves 20 picks for the other posititons. I believe only two DTs Rajii and Jerry are locks for the first round with Hood and Brace following close behind. At DE Orakpo,Brown,Ayers, and Tyson Jackson should have cards turned in in their name along with "tweeners" English, and Maybin also.That leaves 12 picks.Pencil in Stafford,Sanchez,and Freeman at QB that leaves 9. Aaron Curry,Ray Maleuga,James Laurinatis and Clay Matthews leaves 5.Knowshon Moreno and Beanie Wells leaves 3 and I have Max Unger and Alex Mack at the back end of the first round so that leaves one wild card pick and I believe it will be Connor Barwin who played TE and DE in college at Cinci and is the type of versatile player that a franchise like NE covets.

Mongo we are eye to eye on both your points and thats what I'm getting at.Some times you need to adjust your scheme to your personnel.Every week you dummy down the playbook to pin point how you will attack your opponent.So what this says is that the few plays that this team has WRs invovlved in certain situations weekly are too complex for a rookie or young player to decipher.This team in last year's TC practiced a whole lot of 3 TE sets so if you are a WR on those plays what should you be doing? That set alone is another reason that he was inactive for most of the season as Kellen Davis was live every week.

On nfldraftscout,com Herman Johnson is actually rated one number ahead of Loadholt as an NFL prospect at 65 and 66 which puts both of them in the top of the 3rd round.

Okay it may be popular to bash coaches in the Chi but thats not my style.I point to how long it has taken for every WR the Bears have drafted that he has come in contactwith that does not get on the field at all or are completely inactive.Here's the list: Bobby Wade and Justin Gage Jamin Elliott Bernard Berrian Ariese Currie Mark Bradley Earl Bennett That's seven guys who Drake and or Turner have had and most of this list spent a great deal of time inactive early in their careers.If Devin Hester wasn't the league's best KR he might have been inactive as a WR also.

Okay as a compensatory pick maybe take a chance but even the scouting report I just read confirms that he will not be on the field on the first game of the season and with all the comments about his conditioning,I could see him inactive for most of next season.Stacy Andrews is going to be starting next to his brother Shane for Philly at OT so when they compare an OG to an OT what does that say?