Lucky Luciano

just curious... who decided to change the topic of my post?

exactly. what organization that isn't on it's way to oz to look for a brain really lets a 4th year qb have any major input for their offensive coordinator jobs? is there any limit to the stupidity and complete incompetence the upper echelon of this franchise displays to the rest of the world?

if we did offer him a contract was it for as much money or length as the giants? this again goes to the problems of not firing this entire staff and instead holding the sword of damacles over their heads for next season. to get quality coordinators we will have to really either throw out the cash to bring them in or go for dark horse candidates. a lose/lose situation from our upper management.

maybe you're right? who knows. but the season has been over since january 3rd. we bring him in for an interview a full week after the season ended. did they even offer him a contract last monday?

LOL!!!! well at least they can use us to get better contracts.

well, if we had contacted bates or fewell and given them the nod the day after the season ended would we be still looking? BTW.. not saying i endorse either of these coaches. just saying if the bears seriously had them on the radar screen they are gone for consideration 'probably' because of timing or the lack there of.

just heard it on the score. adam shefter (sp) put this out i believe.

going to the giants in all probability for those in this guys corner.

here is the problem i have with this... at this time of year if you snooze you lose. if you drag your feet or are uncertain in the direction you are going you can miss the best candidates to fill your vacancies. this compounds the problems filling assistant coaching positions as when new OC's or DC's come in quickly, they have a larger pool to choose from for the coaches under them. this again brings up the concept of good management not only in your GM but the president in charge of football operations. these people should have a list of every candidate from gm to waterboy and whether employed in pro, semi-pro, or college ranks and how each ranks in quality and availability. so when vacancies happen you can jump on them before the competition does. take holmgren for instance. he comes in and hires a gm and talks to his coaches and determines whether to keep them or not within a very short period of time. yet we still are determining who to bring in even for interviews and for whatever reason are consulting our qb on who it should be.

really? League representatives estimate that they lose a significant amount of money each year to hawkers using NFL teams' names, although they could not provide a figure. Anastasia Danias, an attorney for the league, said that U.S. businesses lose about $250 billion a year in revenue because of the counterfeit market. - http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2009-01-1...icensed-apparel if they "lose about $250 billion a year in revenue" how much do they make in sales legitimately? even if it were projected to be the unbelievable amount of HALF projected losses due to counterfeit merchandise, that amount still would be a QUARTER OF A TRILLION DOLLARS in revenue yearly!! 2. sorry but i don't believe that. even if you think that many fans are fair weather fans or uninformed with the exception of "ubergeeks" they would have had to been living in ice caves at the arctic circle to not have watched a single game or heard the chicago bear team getting lambasted by the media and even other fans for the atrocious seasons as they unfolded. you think the uninformed and especially fair weather fans are going to throw out $60-100 for replica jersy's for themselves or their kids to wear to school after the last 3 seasons and after the cutler bubble burst? and you don't believe that the major stations/cable/satellite pay any attention to their ratings to determine their future marketing strategies? sure they are under short term contracts but eventually contracts expire and the market is reevaluated or don't you believe that either? and you believe, i presume, that advertisers will be willing to continue to run losses or lower profit market projections just for the priveledge to advertise nfl games? so DTV would be oblivious to market loss as long as they get the final product monopoly? are we talking about the same rupert murdock? hmmm..... selling out games and attendance are two different animals. even on this site i have seen people selling their season tickets because it's just not worth going. below are some interesting facts: wanny years attendance no shows during the season 1991 - 43,950 1992 - 57,093 1993 - 69,768 1994 - 67,537 1995 - 58,965 1996 - 79,204 1997 - 113,625 *1998 - 94,563 2000 - 8,563 - the first year of a new coach dick jauron the difference just in stadium concession sales could run more than $5.5 mil a season "On December 27th, Chicago was hosting Green Bay in the season finale. The feeling on the street was that this was a make or break game for Wannstedt. Rumors had been circulating that the McCaskey family was not happy to see a half-filled Soldier Field, with most of the fans being those of the opposition's." http://www.bearshistory.com/seasons/1998chicagobears.aspx sold out but sold? January 12, 2007 - It seems StubHub and other brokers might have overestimated Bears fans in the wake of last year's early exit, but as the game gets closer and the forecast gets clearer, prices are likely to come down. And fans are likely to scoop up the remaining tickets, hopefully. - http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune....y_of_bears.html some believe there is a tiny percentage of fans that are informed about their team. i disagree, that is the point and i listed some of the reasons i believe that. if you want to believe most fans are dumb ignorant sheep in this media age that is your perogative but it doesn't make it so. i think you confuse goodwill in a corporate strategy with strictly emotional decisions. they are not the same. you imply lovie's extension/raise like this is/was strictly an emotional decision. same with dick jauron if you want to look at it this way. for the most part i disagree. in these instances a very large portion of this is a cold calculated corporate money decision. poorly made but still decided on dollars and cents by non-football intelligent entities. first, didn't you just state the exact same thing i did in your reply? second, we are not talking about the packers or the patriots but this franchise. so what exactly is >>your you seem well informed about this. state every mccaskey not on the board or on salary for this franchise who is strictly living on dividend checks with no other source of income and how many of them are living hand-to-mouth. can you even state for positive that these dividends will not be paid in any case if there is indeed a lockout? can you even name how many mccaskey's there are?? "they would have to live on less." less than what? for how long? for what end results? would they have to limit their vacations to 3 months rather than 4? hold back on buying a small country in europe for another year? how long do you believe the strike will last? seriously, more than one season? you don't believe there is enough money in the corporate franchise to compensate salary and EVEN dividends for this after nearly a hundred years of extremely profitable business? finally... you seem to be gilding over that the reason there would even be a lockout in the first place is because the owners want more of the pie than they currently are getting. so the lockout brings all the owners MORE cash in probably less than a single year. how awful for them.

it's been said that if fans don't show up or buy merchandise it doesn't hurt the bears because money is doled out by the nfl who collects these revenues anyway. i don't agree totally with this. chicago is literally the 2nd biggest market in pro football. if the money faucet is turned off by fans this in reality does effect not only the bears but the entire nfl. could this be one reason the nfl stepped in just prior to when we hired jauron and tried to sort out the mike mccaskey mess in chicago with disgruntled fans and media? so i believe if chicago fans are spending $20-50 mil (just a wild guess on this figure with no fact involved) on nfl merchandise a year and this goes into the nfl collective and this is suddenly dried up because fans just aren't interested or are disgruntled in supporting this franchise it DOES hurt both the mccaskey's and the nfl. although it may be small amounts in comparrison to the amounts generated by the nfl's telecast money it still is not chump change. speaking of media contracts... if people are not watching a disaster of a team on local broadcast stations does this not hurt the national and local advertising stream? without advertisers or with a lowering of advertising charges to fill time slots both locally and nationally does this not lower the amount of money to some degree of what the media will offer for nfl rights to air their games in the future? if you lose a generous amount of "Sunday Ticket" sales that specific fan bases control does this also not hurt the future of media contract negotiations? if concession sales and parking revenue for at least 8 games a season (not including pre-season or post season games) drops dramatically this also lowers the final income to be distributed by the nfl to each franchise not to mention their cut. example: if you fill a stadium to capacity and each person spends and average of $30-50 each for beer, hot dogs, parking etc. how much does this lost income add up to during a complete season? finally, even if all season tickets are sold out for years, aren't there a block of tickets sold at gameday? if those seats are left empty does that effect the income the nfl collects? if ticket holders stay home how does empty stadiums look on tv or if there are more opponents fans in the stands than home team? how happy are other owners in seeing that their money is going to be proportioned out to help fund an inept franchise that can't generate their potential income? in my opinion there is a fantastic amount of growth not only in the number of fans but the amount of educated fans in todays world and they are light years ahead of what fan knowledge was in the 60's 70's and even 80's. 1. there is the internet that major portions of the populace has readily available. just the number of sporting sites alone in this venue and the depth of the knowledge available is certainly astounding and as has to be accounted for. 2. the number of sporting magazines and papers has increased by leaps and bounds. sporting news, the chicago bear report, the packer report being just a small portion of them. 3. you have local/cable/satellite sporting stations that keep much of the populace up to date. some of those being ESPN, locally comcast sporting network chicago, your local broadcasting channels that dedicate many programs to specific sporting venues throughout the year. 4. you now have sports radio which does bring with it a large audience. this could include not only the score, but espn radio and the serius satellite radio. the difference in this is just how much does the franchise owners want to spend to generate winners and goodwill in their own community. do they just want to milk the public for goal oriented profits where decisions are continuously based soley on profits/losses? in any corporation you may have to take a percentage loss in certain years to generate not only goodwill but a better product that gives you more future profits and sustain and reward your existing customer base that caused you to be a viable commodity in the first place. it also needs to be said that even if we run into a non capped season (and they may have limited or no income for ONE season) is it possible to believe that this franchise exists paycheck to paycheck after 80 years of business and has no working capital to sustain it in such a limited time? just ONE example... where has all the player portion of leftover salary cap money gone since the salary cap started 15 years ago? if they had saved just this portion of it they could afford to hire and fire 2 or 3 lovies this year. don't forget also that more than likely the the chicago bear 'corporation' employs it's owners and pays them salary above and beyond any dividends it may or may not pay out. the surplus (and there CERTAINLY has to be some) in the corporate entity will STILL pay it's 'employees' whether the season plays out or not. so unless the mccaskey family and their corporate employees are making minimum wage and have been for nearly a century where is the real pain involved? so to believe the mccaskey family will be getting their homes repossessed, end up on food stamps or standing in soup lines if >>THEY

i accept your explanation. i am dense at times. so it goes. i personally have no problem insulting or questioning george halas when it needs to be done. although a great man in "football" terms by no means should we worship him like a golden idol. he deserved plenty of criticism in his lifetime of sports and his faults and failures SHOULD be brought up and learned from and not gilded over in time or smoothed over in history. in fact anyone is fair game in my opinion who puts on the hat in professional sports. that includes virginia (halas) mccaskey if she wants to be involved in any way running a professional sporting franchise. she gets treated no different than the roony's or the al davis's or the young guns like the snyders or the jones's. and if she can't take the anger, sarcasm, parody or verbal barbs, or her family can't bear to see her take it, then get her out completely in ANY decision making that relates to this franchise or the way professional football is operated. things i won't do and find appalling: 1. i never have (or hope i haven't) ever suggested or wished for real, serious, physical harm or death to anyone or their families, pets or friends for any reason related to sports. 2. i never take shots at someones specific family or children when they themselves are not personally involved or have ever been involved in sports or sporting decisions. 3. i never take shots at anyone involving their real life handicap, religion, race or creed. real life morons, imbeciles, and idiots think like this and i strive hard not to be one. WARNING!! unless you live in raccoon city you really don't have to stock up on ammunition and build bomb shelters on this posters say-so. ALL of this posters comments relate exclusively to sports and there is no intent, real or imagined, to bring fear into the readers lives.

ok, gotcha. just a sport. wheww, thanks. are you upset that i "insulted" an 87 year old woman who puts her mark on this franchises health and future direction by the decisions she makes or upset that i "insulted" george halas's daughter? WARNING!! unless you live in raccoon city you really don't have to stock up on ammunition and build bomb shelters on this posters say-so. ALL of this posters comments relate exclusively to sports and there is no intent, real or imagined, to bring fear into the readers lives.

hahahhahahahaha dude you really are delusional or is it just you will grasp at any straw no matter how finitely small to prove you are never wrong? alright let's go with that. ginny and mike have no opinion one way or the other on one of the most important decisions that can be made in a sporting franchise and leave it up to their accountant to figure out. now that i've seen it in that light it makes perfect sense to me. sure i believe you. you walk up to your boss and tell him you are thinking of firing the entire staff, in a department you know absolutely nothing about, and he says "let me know when you make the final decision and i'll have their checks ready if you fire them all". sure it's possible. that is why he SPECIFICALLY stated each individual by name or SPECIFICALLY stated the board decided thus or... oh wait... he didn't do any of that. but it is possible the president of a billion dollar corporation just doesn't know how to convey critical information to not only his subordinates but to the media HE called to announce it. leap? forget your draft fobias for a moment and think about it. is it a sure lock positive mikey is involved like i stated? no. but it sure is a very possible probability and until i hear it spelled out differently from the person who stated it or proven by other reliable source/s, other than you, to be wrong i can only take him at his spoken word and use plain common sense to govern the outcome of my conclusions.

didn't you just tell me in a previous post a few weeks ago that you would be afraid/concerned if we fired ted phillips, like i suggested, because mikey might step in and be involved in management again so you were against it? yet now we hear that mikey and not the board, not the mccaskey consensus of family members voting on propositions, nobody else except ginny and mikey actually had the final say in the discussions according to phillips himself? that means every major decision made is in those two's hands exclusively if teddy is to be believed. like whether or not to hire a new president and who? this seems to come with complete control over every major decision he makes. like complete control over what the supposed gm does in his capacity like hiring and firing coaches or even player acquisition? who our scouts are and how many we employ? isn't THIS the entire football operations portion of a franchise and is it not actually controlled by mike mccaskey whether he sits in the freaking control room draft day or not?? all phillips appears to be is a shield for the mccaskey family. same with angelo. they take the heat and the slings and arrows that mikey and the mummy would get if major decisions turn bad and fall flat. no wonder teddy is such an important cog in their machine. he does the dirty work.

to all those who thought mikey was just the gardener the truth will set you free... who teddy, angelo AND lovie are really accountable to: a 1000 year old unwrapped mummy and mike mccaskey. it really is business as usual and has been since phillips took over.

we fired two. linebackers coach lloyd lee and defensive backs coach steven wilks. we also let our defensive line coach take a job in the college ranks to incidently make room for marinelli so we in essence traded one for the other in this instance because we wanted to. hmmmm, fired our linebackers coach we hired in 2008? well i guess that shoots to hell your theory about babich being the guy who exclusively coached our backers doesn't it? the guy who coached up all of our excellent linebackers, according to YOU, was fired last year or was it the guy he replaced, hardy nickerson who was LBer coach in 2007? so let's see, we have lovie who started as a LBer coach as our HC, then babich, then nickerson, then lee, and back to babich. LOL!!!! sorry but i just don't see it as this black and white. you say with good coordinators we could still do very well. i say look at what we had in 06. we fielded 3-4 pro-bowl players on this defense and still couldn't control the passing game. the problems we had that kept us from seriously contending to win it all in 06 are the same ones we currently have and in fact we are even in considerably worse shape today and this is due to both scheme and player personnel. we had average to poor corners if expected to play man coverages and the zones we played then held the same problems we face now. we couldn't get off the field and an excellent offensive team with a good + qb arial attack and a good line would beat us 8 out of 10 times. in 06 we only played 3 teams with a winning record during the regular season. we lost 1 out of those three to the patriots so that 13-3 record, although admirable, was not like we were playing in one of the strongest divisions in the nfl and a soft schedule. i do believe that rivera was/is a better coordinator than lovie in his best days and certainly better than baboonich ever thought of being plus i think he was hampered somewhat by our head coach which helped to create some major problems for us with the type of cover 2 lovie insists on running. with this said and with what lovie just stated in that trumped up press interview leads me to believe he will still insist on running what he wants to run no matter who our DC is. so how is this going to win us superbowls in the future any more than it won us any in the past even with very good coordinators if they are hamstringed before they get here in the same manner or worse than rivera was? we are just killing time. one final note on this subject... even when/if you do have/find excellent coordinators and if you have relative success it is short lived because these guys are then thrown into the HC prospect pool every offseason and often end up coaching elsewhere. this then throws it all back to finding someone who was either fired by another club OR finding someone who has never done it before and we end up exactly in the same situation we are now. just more sidestepping BS you are throwing against the wall. when did i EVER say a HC should be relaying every minute detail to any coordinators at gametime? so just who are you "arguing" this with? but i will tell you and you can believe it or not... a good HC should have his finger on the pulse of the game flow and what ALL of his coordinators are doing on the field. also what his coordinators are doing should have already been gone over during the week of practice and watching game film and determining their overall strategy. he should also be adept enough to move ANY coordinator into a different direction if what he sees on the field from an opponent is not being schemed or adjusted to correctly by the people under him OR if there are special circumstances involved leading up to a change. that is the difference between good coaches and knuckleheads like we get. one more item i want to bring up... you keep inferring that a HC like lovie who is defensive oriented coach doesn't know jack about offensive playcalling or how his coordinators run an offense and implying this is somehow acceptable. i have to disagree. no i don't believe a HC should 'possibly' be as adept at offense as his OC but i find it almost impossible to believe someone who has been a DC does NOT understand offenses and how they work!! how in gods name as a DC could you devise a defensive scheme if you didn't understand what someone's offense was even doing???? yet we seem to find these drones as HC's who either don't know, don't care or don't want to be bothered with it. what does that say about the quality of coaches we hire and why they are doomed to fail and keep failing?? you mean like the conservative gary crowton?? LOL!!! although nearly impossible to fathom the mindset of these dregs of the nfl we hire for head coaches, maybe jauron wanted a conservative offense after crowton to coast along in his job and not worry about getting fired as quickly. why else would you STUBBORNLY keep that imbecile john shoop on the payroll at that position? to devise offensive schemes that run for 3 yds and a cloud of dust for 3 downs or dink and dunk in statistically safe passing routes and then punt? maybe because he was in over-his-head as a head coach then and was in over-his-head as a HC in buffalo recently. he was and is a one dimentional coach much like what we have now. boy you got me here. so tell me... if you as a coach know little (in your own words) and one scheme, and that scheme is piss poor, just how are you going to develop players to be much better than what they were in the first place? for instance: since baboonich was designated our DC i believe we started moving our backers up to the LOS to fool all these offenses into thinking we were going to blitz up the middle then drop them back to wander around aimlessly. hmmmm that was 2-3 years ago wasn't it and it did work but for how long? one game against the colts? two before the rest of the entire nfl had this figured out? and we have been running it for 3 years now? i also just love the blitz by our backers right up the gut at the snap so they can get caught in the wash with all the jumbo tackles and not even come close to breathing on qb's stepping back to pass. makes for easy completions, career game highs for good qb's and fat stats for nobody qb's though. you are right. i don't get you. if we can win it all CONSISTANTLY i don't give a dam who is at the helm including lovie. but this is NOT the case and hasn't been EVEN with rivera who you keep bringing up. we LOST the superbowl. that is NOT winning, it is losing and in my opinion the colts could have beat us every day for a straight month!!! not only did our offense fail but so did our DEFENSE because it was not an elite defense as you keep wanting to imply. we gave up 430 yards of offense to the colts. you think elite defenses do that? to cap it off they could have put up more in the 4th qtr but they rode the clock and gave lovie a break. so in my opinion if you put very good assistants under poor head coaches it is a losing proposition that at the very very best might get you into one superbowl. very similar to the ditka era only without the incredible player talent he had.

i could just as well say lovie smith developed them as he was a linebacker coach too. hmmm.... briggs was here before babich came in. he came in in 2003 as a 3rd round pick. player after player? you mean every one developed under him like... okwo, leon joe, marcus freeman, rodriques wilson, joey larocque? or was it jamar williams who was sitting on the bench for 4 years? or do you mean like nick roach who beat out the amazing hunter hillenmier at strongside backer for a while after pisa a NEW free agent last season went down or the one who was demoted from middle linebacker and replaced by hunter hillenmier? if we traded both of these backers together in one package could we get a 2nd round pick for both? a 3rd? these are decent utility/special team guys with the possible exception of roach who has been around only 3 years and may develope or not. if not then not only is lovie an idiot for playing inferior players but so is babich. plug in who? what were you seeing that our backers (beside briggs) looked like we will be starting ANY of them next season? was linebacker a real strength this season? which games? how are they ranked in the rest of the nfl? do you believe we should get rid of an average LB in pisa then next season and pencil in roach or williams? we don't need any backers in free agency then if we cut pisa? it would save us some cash starting roach or williams so how bout it? say the word.

guess that shows what the nfl really means by adding worthless titles to coaches (like russ grimm?) they hire to keep other teams from raiding them. absolutely nothing. and so much for hiring really good coordinators? just hire ones who fit in with lame duck HC's whether the best for the job or not.

well then what does this mean? "those under the HC are as important, and likely more so, than the HC himself." onward: what you are failing to see is that the people under him are usually HIS choice in the first place and it is HIS job to govern what they are doing not only on the field game day but in training camp, practice etc. etc. throughout the entire season. now, not a single defensive coach was fired, not even ONE and... what does he say about running the defense as well as being HC? well gee... it was a bit more work doing both jobs than i thought it would be so we better hire one because it's too much work? hmmmm. wasn't this idiot a defensive coordinator BEFORE he became our head coach? hasn't he been a head coach for over SIX YEARS??? and now it's a surprise how hard the dual job is? what has he been doing over the last 10_+ years??? in fact isn't baboonich still our DC? i never heard of his demotion have you? if this monkey on a stick wasn't good enough to be DC and lovie had to take over his job THIS year what does that say about lovies decision of keeping him for TWO years?????? any and ALL problems with this defense is soley on lovies shoulders, period. it's his baby and at least 50% of our offensive problems SHOULD also be on his shoulders!! and... isn't it the freaking HC's job to make changes on gameday EVEN if whatever coordinator of his choosing (or not) is running the show and is failing? or does a HC just sit back on game day listening to new kids on the block in his headset and hope everything turns out great in the end and make his decisions/evaluations on TUESDAY watching game film??????????? all i can say is if you had been in charge during the 40's we would all be speaking japanese. the importance of game planning AND especially practice is just that... planning to play your opponents and planning for contingencies when things change during the week and at gametime. it's what you learn in pop warner for X's sake. if x team does this, we do that. if x player gets hot we do this. it's plain common sense and strategic planning anyone worth jack $%!& knows and does playing/coaching football. you don't wait until halftime or the day after to figure it out or you just lost the battle. THAT is the job of the head coach on gameday to bring this learned practical information and practice to bear NOW through his coordinators and players. where do you keep coming up with this stuff? most head coaches in the nfl let their coordinators do anything they want with no input or final say? a GIANT whatever!!! do you think if wade phillips saw garrett running a WR midget up the middle against the williams budahs in minny for no gain for half a dozen 3 and out series he would have no say in the matter? does wade then call jerry and ask for permission to change the type of plays coming in from garrett on tuesday after the game? if so the dallas org is nuttier than i ever dreamed possible. you now throw out jauron... that imbecile let his OC get him fired for running garbage gameplans and again not knowing enough (sound familiar) to do anything constructive about it or even understand the offensive player talent on his own roster. but just to be sure i get you.... you are saying that a HC whose forte' is not offense (or visa-versa) should just let his coordinators do anything they want to right? that when his team FAILS to outscore/stop it's opponents year in and year out we should just fire the coordinators because it's their job on gameday??? like, "it's not my job man, you figure it out". the point is if we HAD good coordinators lovie wouldn't NEED to stick his nose into their affairs. didn't you just tell me in another post how good a job baboonich did as our linebackers coach? yikes!! if you believe what you say then i see absolutely no reason for you to want to get rid of lovie. just hire better coordinators. in fact there is no reason to ever hire good head coaches. just good assistants. finally........... and all this time i just misunderstood dave wannstedt and dick jauron and lovie smith. if only we could have dave and dick back with better coordinators.

really??? one... did i SAY we fired fewell? did i IMPLY we fired fewell? uhhhhh.... no. two... who do you think they would have put in to replace dicky? bill cowher? their special teams coach LOL? they put in who was handy or the least bad common denominator or else tell me why HE was fired and hasn't gotten any consideration as a HC in the league or was even kept as DC in buffalo. whether he could be a good DC i don't know but people better think about what he brings with him before they anoint him our savior let alone the best choice.

tell me exactly what he has done to deserve any credit? plugged in veteran linebackers to replace veteran linebackers and played them exactly the same way the better backer they replaced played? did we see any good or different schemes from our backers in there? or did we see the same things that didn't work no matter who we put in. who improved and how?

i just have to ask... if we bring in fewell are we not bring in an extension of 2 coaches we want to/did fire? fewell worked under smith AND under dick jauron who himself was a defensive oriented HC. so how much of that was jauron and how much fewell? is this bad? who was happy with either coaches defense? i am just asking and so should the brain trust of our franchise.

what???? are you serious? who in most instances works with the gm in finding the assistants or flat out wants this control himself? who moves the team forward and emphasizes which aspects need to be changed or improved upon in all aspects of the game? who holds these assistants accountable (or should)? who dictates the TYPE of offense and/or defense that the team is going to run simply based upon the HC's strengths and knowledge and his ability to judge not only subordinate coaching talent but player talent on his team and how to get the most out of that talent? who makes the final decisions on how to attack opponents on gameday (or should)? this is like saying the first mate or the guy swabbing the deck is more important than the freaking captain of your ship. and this has been a major problem in my opinion WITH lovie smith!! i don't expect HC's to be D and O geniuses but i DO expect them to be knowledgeable enough to understand what works and what doesn't work and convey/impliment this TO his coordinators!!!! lovie smith just doesn't know enough about offense to even have any constructive input to make a difference. he basically just mouths some buzz words in press conferences and lets his offensive coordinator have full control. hell even shea got no input from lovie OR didn't listen to him anyway and he was a complete idiot. how do you explain that??? this brings me to lovie's failings even on the defensive side of the ball. in my opinion he is so limited in knowledge that as a one trick pony he doesn't have the brains to even realize it doesn't work or if he does, the ability to change it. it's called arrogance and stupidity if you don't want to listen to someone who knows more than you do or has a better way to impliment it to make a poor product better. seriously... in another post you said "please don't put me in a situation of defending him". well just what is it if you are doing if not defending him? if you want to defend him for whatever reasons i have no problem with that but at least say you are and stand by it. just don't give us both sides and the middle.

not unless the president who can do anything, ted phillips, personally raised him from the dead. hmmm... maybe ginny really is a succubus.