Lucky Luciano
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ok, gotcha. just a sport. wheww, thanks. are you upset that i "insulted" an 87 year old woman who puts her mark on this franchises health and future direction by the decisions she makes or upset that i "insulted" george halas's daughter? WARNING!! unless you live in raccoon city you really don't have to stock up on ammunition and build bomb shelters on this posters say-so. ALL of this posters comments relate exclusively to sports and there is no intent, real or imagined, to bring fear into the readers lives.
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hahahhahahahaha dude you really are delusional or is it just you will grasp at any straw no matter how finitely small to prove you are never wrong? alright let's go with that. ginny and mike have no opinion one way or the other on one of the most important decisions that can be made in a sporting franchise and leave it up to their accountant to figure out. now that i've seen it in that light it makes perfect sense to me. sure i believe you. you walk up to your boss and tell him you are thinking of firing the entire staff, in a department you know absolutely nothing about, and he says "let me know when you make the final decision and i'll have their checks ready if you fire them all". sure it's possible. that is why he SPECIFICALLY stated each individual by name or SPECIFICALLY stated the board decided thus or... oh wait... he didn't do any of that. but it is possible the president of a billion dollar corporation just doesn't know how to convey critical information to not only his subordinates but to the media HE called to announce it. leap? forget your draft fobias for a moment and think about it. is it a sure lock positive mikey is involved like i stated? no. but it sure is a very possible probability and until i hear it spelled out differently from the person who stated it or proven by other reliable source/s, other than you, to be wrong i can only take him at his spoken word and use plain common sense to govern the outcome of my conclusions.
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didn't you just tell me in a previous post a few weeks ago that you would be afraid/concerned if we fired ted phillips, like i suggested, because mikey might step in and be involved in management again so you were against it? yet now we hear that mikey and not the board, not the mccaskey consensus of family members voting on propositions, nobody else except ginny and mikey actually had the final say in the discussions according to phillips himself? that means every major decision made is in those two's hands exclusively if teddy is to be believed. like whether or not to hire a new president and who? this seems to come with complete control over every major decision he makes. like complete control over what the supposed gm does in his capacity like hiring and firing coaches or even player acquisition? who our scouts are and how many we employ? isn't THIS the entire football operations portion of a franchise and is it not actually controlled by mike mccaskey whether he sits in the freaking control room draft day or not?? all phillips appears to be is a shield for the mccaskey family. same with angelo. they take the heat and the slings and arrows that mikey and the mummy would get if major decisions turn bad and fall flat. no wonder teddy is such an important cog in their machine. he does the dirty work.
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to all those who thought mikey was just the gardener the truth will set you free... who teddy, angelo AND lovie are really accountable to: a 1000 year old unwrapped mummy and mike mccaskey. it really is business as usual and has been since phillips took over.
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we fired two. linebackers coach lloyd lee and defensive backs coach steven wilks. we also let our defensive line coach take a job in the college ranks to incidently make room for marinelli so we in essence traded one for the other in this instance because we wanted to. hmmmm, fired our linebackers coach we hired in 2008? well i guess that shoots to hell your theory about babich being the guy who exclusively coached our backers doesn't it? the guy who coached up all of our excellent linebackers, according to YOU, was fired last year or was it the guy he replaced, hardy nickerson who was LBer coach in 2007? so let's see, we have lovie who started as a LBer coach as our HC, then babich, then nickerson, then lee, and back to babich. LOL!!!! sorry but i just don't see it as this black and white. you say with good coordinators we could still do very well. i say look at what we had in 06. we fielded 3-4 pro-bowl players on this defense and still couldn't control the passing game. the problems we had that kept us from seriously contending to win it all in 06 are the same ones we currently have and in fact we are even in considerably worse shape today and this is due to both scheme and player personnel. we had average to poor corners if expected to play man coverages and the zones we played then held the same problems we face now. we couldn't get off the field and an excellent offensive team with a good + qb arial attack and a good line would beat us 8 out of 10 times. in 06 we only played 3 teams with a winning record during the regular season. we lost 1 out of those three to the patriots so that 13-3 record, although admirable, was not like we were playing in one of the strongest divisions in the nfl and a soft schedule. i do believe that rivera was/is a better coordinator than lovie in his best days and certainly better than baboonich ever thought of being plus i think he was hampered somewhat by our head coach which helped to create some major problems for us with the type of cover 2 lovie insists on running. with this said and with what lovie just stated in that trumped up press interview leads me to believe he will still insist on running what he wants to run no matter who our DC is. so how is this going to win us superbowls in the future any more than it won us any in the past even with very good coordinators if they are hamstringed before they get here in the same manner or worse than rivera was? we are just killing time. one final note on this subject... even when/if you do have/find excellent coordinators and if you have relative success it is short lived because these guys are then thrown into the HC prospect pool every offseason and often end up coaching elsewhere. this then throws it all back to finding someone who was either fired by another club OR finding someone who has never done it before and we end up exactly in the same situation we are now. just more sidestepping BS you are throwing against the wall. when did i EVER say a HC should be relaying every minute detail to any coordinators at gametime? so just who are you "arguing" this with? but i will tell you and you can believe it or not... a good HC should have his finger on the pulse of the game flow and what ALL of his coordinators are doing on the field. also what his coordinators are doing should have already been gone over during the week of practice and watching game film and determining their overall strategy. he should also be adept enough to move ANY coordinator into a different direction if what he sees on the field from an opponent is not being schemed or adjusted to correctly by the people under him OR if there are special circumstances involved leading up to a change. that is the difference between good coaches and knuckleheads like we get. one more item i want to bring up... you keep inferring that a HC like lovie who is defensive oriented coach doesn't know jack about offensive playcalling or how his coordinators run an offense and implying this is somehow acceptable. i have to disagree. no i don't believe a HC should 'possibly' be as adept at offense as his OC but i find it almost impossible to believe someone who has been a DC does NOT understand offenses and how they work!! how in gods name as a DC could you devise a defensive scheme if you didn't understand what someone's offense was even doing???? yet we seem to find these drones as HC's who either don't know, don't care or don't want to be bothered with it. what does that say about the quality of coaches we hire and why they are doomed to fail and keep failing?? you mean like the conservative gary crowton?? LOL!!! although nearly impossible to fathom the mindset of these dregs of the nfl we hire for head coaches, maybe jauron wanted a conservative offense after crowton to coast along in his job and not worry about getting fired as quickly. why else would you STUBBORNLY keep that imbecile john shoop on the payroll at that position? to devise offensive schemes that run for 3 yds and a cloud of dust for 3 downs or dink and dunk in statistically safe passing routes and then punt? maybe because he was in over-his-head as a head coach then and was in over-his-head as a HC in buffalo recently. he was and is a one dimentional coach much like what we have now. boy you got me here. so tell me... if you as a coach know little (in your own words) and one scheme, and that scheme is piss poor, just how are you going to develop players to be much better than what they were in the first place? for instance: since baboonich was designated our DC i believe we started moving our backers up to the LOS to fool all these offenses into thinking we were going to blitz up the middle then drop them back to wander around aimlessly. hmmmm that was 2-3 years ago wasn't it and it did work but for how long? one game against the colts? two before the rest of the entire nfl had this figured out? and we have been running it for 3 years now? i also just love the blitz by our backers right up the gut at the snap so they can get caught in the wash with all the jumbo tackles and not even come close to breathing on qb's stepping back to pass. makes for easy completions, career game highs for good qb's and fat stats for nobody qb's though. you are right. i don't get you. if we can win it all CONSISTANTLY i don't give a dam who is at the helm including lovie. but this is NOT the case and hasn't been EVEN with rivera who you keep bringing up. we LOST the superbowl. that is NOT winning, it is losing and in my opinion the colts could have beat us every day for a straight month!!! not only did our offense fail but so did our DEFENSE because it was not an elite defense as you keep wanting to imply. we gave up 430 yards of offense to the colts. you think elite defenses do that? to cap it off they could have put up more in the 4th qtr but they rode the clock and gave lovie a break. so in my opinion if you put very good assistants under poor head coaches it is a losing proposition that at the very very best might get you into one superbowl. very similar to the ditka era only without the incredible player talent he had.
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i could just as well say lovie smith developed them as he was a linebacker coach too. hmmm.... briggs was here before babich came in. he came in in 2003 as a 3rd round pick. player after player? you mean every one developed under him like... okwo, leon joe, marcus freeman, rodriques wilson, joey larocque? or was it jamar williams who was sitting on the bench for 4 years? or do you mean like nick roach who beat out the amazing hunter hillenmier at strongside backer for a while after pisa a NEW free agent last season went down or the one who was demoted from middle linebacker and replaced by hunter hillenmier? if we traded both of these backers together in one package could we get a 2nd round pick for both? a 3rd? these are decent utility/special team guys with the possible exception of roach who has been around only 3 years and may develope or not. if not then not only is lovie an idiot for playing inferior players but so is babich. plug in who? what were you seeing that our backers (beside briggs) looked like we will be starting ANY of them next season? was linebacker a real strength this season? which games? how are they ranked in the rest of the nfl? do you believe we should get rid of an average LB in pisa then next season and pencil in roach or williams? we don't need any backers in free agency then if we cut pisa? it would save us some cash starting roach or williams so how bout it? say the word.
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Next defensive coordinator? Meet the candidates
Lucky Luciano replied to Pixote's topic in Bearstalk
guess that shows what the nfl really means by adding worthless titles to coaches (like russ grimm?) they hire to keep other teams from raiding them. absolutely nothing. and so much for hiring really good coordinators? just hire ones who fit in with lame duck HC's whether the best for the job or not. -
well then what does this mean? "those under the HC are as important, and likely more so, than the HC himself." onward: what you are failing to see is that the people under him are usually HIS choice in the first place and it is HIS job to govern what they are doing not only on the field game day but in training camp, practice etc. etc. throughout the entire season. now, not a single defensive coach was fired, not even ONE and... what does he say about running the defense as well as being HC? well gee... it was a bit more work doing both jobs than i thought it would be so we better hire one because it's too much work? hmmmm. wasn't this idiot a defensive coordinator BEFORE he became our head coach? hasn't he been a head coach for over SIX YEARS??? and now it's a surprise how hard the dual job is? what has he been doing over the last 10_+ years??? in fact isn't baboonich still our DC? i never heard of his demotion have you? if this monkey on a stick wasn't good enough to be DC and lovie had to take over his job THIS year what does that say about lovies decision of keeping him for TWO years?????? any and ALL problems with this defense is soley on lovies shoulders, period. it's his baby and at least 50% of our offensive problems SHOULD also be on his shoulders!! and... isn't it the freaking HC's job to make changes on gameday EVEN if whatever coordinator of his choosing (or not) is running the show and is failing? or does a HC just sit back on game day listening to new kids on the block in his headset and hope everything turns out great in the end and make his decisions/evaluations on TUESDAY watching game film??????????? all i can say is if you had been in charge during the 40's we would all be speaking japanese. the importance of game planning AND especially practice is just that... planning to play your opponents and planning for contingencies when things change during the week and at gametime. it's what you learn in pop warner for X's sake. if x team does this, we do that. if x player gets hot we do this. it's plain common sense and strategic planning anyone worth jack $%!& knows and does playing/coaching football. you don't wait until halftime or the day after to figure it out or you just lost the battle. THAT is the job of the head coach on gameday to bring this learned practical information and practice to bear NOW through his coordinators and players. where do you keep coming up with this stuff? most head coaches in the nfl let their coordinators do anything they want with no input or final say? a GIANT whatever!!! do you think if wade phillips saw garrett running a WR midget up the middle against the williams budahs in minny for no gain for half a dozen 3 and out series he would have no say in the matter? does wade then call jerry and ask for permission to change the type of plays coming in from garrett on tuesday after the game? if so the dallas org is nuttier than i ever dreamed possible. you now throw out jauron... that imbecile let his OC get him fired for running garbage gameplans and again not knowing enough (sound familiar) to do anything constructive about it or even understand the offensive player talent on his own roster. but just to be sure i get you.... you are saying that a HC whose forte' is not offense (or visa-versa) should just let his coordinators do anything they want to right? that when his team FAILS to outscore/stop it's opponents year in and year out we should just fire the coordinators because it's their job on gameday??? like, "it's not my job man, you figure it out". the point is if we HAD good coordinators lovie wouldn't NEED to stick his nose into their affairs. didn't you just tell me in another post how good a job baboonich did as our linebackers coach? yikes!! if you believe what you say then i see absolutely no reason for you to want to get rid of lovie. just hire better coordinators. in fact there is no reason to ever hire good head coaches. just good assistants. finally........... and all this time i just misunderstood dave wannstedt and dick jauron and lovie smith. if only we could have dave and dick back with better coordinators.
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Next defensive coordinator? Meet the candidates
Lucky Luciano replied to Pixote's topic in Bearstalk
really??? one... did i SAY we fired fewell? did i IMPLY we fired fewell? uhhhhh.... no. two... who do you think they would have put in to replace dicky? bill cowher? their special teams coach LOL? they put in who was handy or the least bad common denominator or else tell me why HE was fired and hasn't gotten any consideration as a HC in the league or was even kept as DC in buffalo. whether he could be a good DC i don't know but people better think about what he brings with him before they anoint him our savior let alone the best choice. -
tell me exactly what he has done to deserve any credit? plugged in veteran linebackers to replace veteran linebackers and played them exactly the same way the better backer they replaced played? did we see any good or different schemes from our backers in there? or did we see the same things that didn't work no matter who we put in. who improved and how?
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Next defensive coordinator? Meet the candidates
Lucky Luciano replied to Pixote's topic in Bearstalk
i just have to ask... if we bring in fewell are we not bring in an extension of 2 coaches we want to/did fire? fewell worked under smith AND under dick jauron who himself was a defensive oriented HC. so how much of that was jauron and how much fewell? is this bad? who was happy with either coaches defense? i am just asking and so should the brain trust of our franchise. -
what???? are you serious? who in most instances works with the gm in finding the assistants or flat out wants this control himself? who moves the team forward and emphasizes which aspects need to be changed or improved upon in all aspects of the game? who holds these assistants accountable (or should)? who dictates the TYPE of offense and/or defense that the team is going to run simply based upon the HC's strengths and knowledge and his ability to judge not only subordinate coaching talent but player talent on his team and how to get the most out of that talent? who makes the final decisions on how to attack opponents on gameday (or should)? this is like saying the first mate or the guy swabbing the deck is more important than the freaking captain of your ship. and this has been a major problem in my opinion WITH lovie smith!! i don't expect HC's to be D and O geniuses but i DO expect them to be knowledgeable enough to understand what works and what doesn't work and convey/impliment this TO his coordinators!!!! lovie smith just doesn't know enough about offense to even have any constructive input to make a difference. he basically just mouths some buzz words in press conferences and lets his offensive coordinator have full control. hell even shea got no input from lovie OR didn't listen to him anyway and he was a complete idiot. how do you explain that??? this brings me to lovie's failings even on the defensive side of the ball. in my opinion he is so limited in knowledge that as a one trick pony he doesn't have the brains to even realize it doesn't work or if he does, the ability to change it. it's called arrogance and stupidity if you don't want to listen to someone who knows more than you do or has a better way to impliment it to make a poor product better. seriously... in another post you said "please don't put me in a situation of defending him". well just what is it if you are doing if not defending him? if you want to defend him for whatever reasons i have no problem with that but at least say you are and stand by it. just don't give us both sides and the middle.
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not unless the president who can do anything, ted phillips, personally raised him from the dead. hmmm... maybe ginny really is a succubus.
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PRESS CONFERENCE - ROUGHLY: TED the head PHILLIPS: "they (angelo, lovie) welcome change"? since when you idiot. YOU should be changed as the first order of business. after 8 and 6 years respectively, where has the change been? how long do you wait for change from coach and gm? until their contracts expire and your books are still in the black? "a frustrating season"?? it was a frustrating DECADE teddy boy and we are starting on another frustrating decade!!! well ted, you got continuity alright, more garbage to go along with past garbage. "our players need to play at a higher level"? hmmm how is that to happen and WHY aren't they playing at a higher level NOW??? they know the "accountability they all have" (angie and lovie)? that may be the biggest joke of all!!! who is accountable for piss poor drafts and piss poor coaching throughout this entire franchise for more than half a decade??? "a constant evaluation process" BY WHO YOU FREAKING IDIOT??? YOU??? how can you evaluate something you don't know a thing about?? "lovie is a tough coach and not because he is soft with his players"? what-ever!!! this guy is dilusional. "the lowest point in the season for me would have been cinncinnati"? without any doubt, my lowest point of the season is today listening to YOU. "the changes we are making now are not insignificant"???? are you serious? they are fluff and a slap to every fans face. just come out and say it's about money bean counter cause THAT is the truth!! "winning is paramount"? then why are we doing the same thing over and over and over especially when everyone but this organization knows exactly what the problems are? JERRY ANGELO: it was tough for lovie to make todays decisions (i assume firing turner and the other sacrificial lambs)? christ who is running this insane asylum? "we will have new coaches and new energy"? "hard to evaluate your own job" maybe THAT'S why we need someone in charge of YOU who knows jack about football... ya think ted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "we don't have a bad roster"? LOL!!!! he then says "we had problems on defense because of personnel and scheme"? i thought you have a wonderful roster angie. he then proceeds to evade questions, sidestep, and throw out meaningless nothing. "we (coaching personnel) work good together as a team" he just signed his death warrant when lovie fails. these clowns think they don't have to recruit coaches they will just flock here because we are the chicago bears. TOTAL CRAP!! LOVIE SMITH: he is "excited to remain in his position" hell what failure wouldn't be excited to be paid millions to continue to do the poor job he has done? he seems to be happy with our successful scheme and will continue running it. "it worked for our superbowl year". good god what an idiot!! this is just one of the reasons you freaking LOST. because it didn't work!!! "there were times this past year we were a good football team"? another delusional imbecile. is happy with and relying on what we have done the past two weeks. arrogant fool. "there is only so many coverages you can play"? now there is innovation. "we just didn't have a good year. simple as that." sorry but it's a LOT more than that. there is a reason why you have failed not only this year but at the very least over the last 3. sorry, but this guy has even less of a clue than my worst nightmare could ever indicated. and HE says... "lots of coaching candidates wanting to come here". like WHO? other has-beens or cronies you worked with before who have also failed and want to stay out of the bread line? as vinnie once said... everthing these guys just said is bull$%!# welcome to the same ole same ole. after the dust settled today, is there ANYBODY besides some of the talking heads in the media that really believes this franchise is NOT cheap?? in the past i have speculated in each of my posts that the mccaskey's "could" be cheap and explained in detail how that "could" be so. now i can flat out say there is no "could" about it. the chicago bear franchise is >>>CHEAP if not explain to me how these moves have been made, or not made, to make us a better team in 2010 (maybe they believe the world will end in 2012 so why worry about it anyway)? we still have a BAD president, we still have a BAD gm, and we still have a BAD coaching staff. good god, the price of failure is a promotion in this sorry excuse of a franchise as long as you work cheap and keep your mouth shut. here folks is what a grim future we have to look forward to... 1. we are going to run the same flawed poor system in defense we have for 6 years even after it has been proven on the field a failure. if lovie hasn't made any adjustments or changes in this defense in SIX YEARS how long does it take him to get it and what hope have we he will in the future? what is going to be different next year or the year after? the hope for better players to play in a BAD system that will bring the level of play up to mediocre? just for curiosities sake what do we now call baboonich? has he been demoted from his DC position now or is he the co-owner of this edsel of a defense? please tell me, even without his buddy marinelli who in the holy hell would come into this system as a lovie puppet with no control of his own defense that is worth a tinkers dam? even if we improve to say a 10 and 6 team and make an in-and-out appearance as a wild card is that enough to keep lovie and angelo on after NEXT year? can this system we employ really win us superbowls (plural)? how long do we hang around in this type of slot before we finally realize the system is flawed and clean house? long enough to burn out our franchise qb's chances to really make a difference in chicago and be real perenial superbowl contenders? we are wasting a franchise qb's productive years by keeping this mess in motion and it just proves we wouldn't know what to do with one if we had one. 2. we are keeping a gm who has exactly done what? left us with a talent pool similar to when wanny was demoted and eventually fired. hell, even throwing darts at a list of draft names on the wall ANYONE could have picked as well or better than jerry angelo over EIGHT FREAKING YEARS!!! plus, as gm does he really have the power of a gm anyway? if so is it his decision to keep lovie and the rest of the idiots and think that by adding yet more cronies to lovies staff is fooling anyone? just what purpose does this drone serve?? just another body to divert attention from the owners complete incompetence and take their heat? 3. we still have nobody in this entire franchise who knows anything more than the failure gm we still employ or what to do about it. the president running this zoo is a football imbecile yet he controls the health of this franchise in his leger book. it's disgusting. 4. owners: they are not only dumb, cheap owners they are stupid owners too. although there is nothing we can do with what we are saddled with, the owners of this franchise put more stock in dollars and CENTS than plain old common SENSE. they don't care about the fans, they really can't care whether the end results of the product they put on the field fails or not and in fact don't care about anything except the bottom line profits. final conclusions... the freaking planets actually aligned again (similar to when we passed on drew brees) and 3 superbowl winning very, very good football minds and head coaches appear on the market just when we desperately need a president, gm and head coach. as usual we do absolutely nothing and drag our feet until they are gone and give a vote of confidence to losers we owe money to. it's business as usual at halas hall.
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seriously. maybe he doesn't want to end his nfl career by tying his can to lovie's falling star. if he moved up and lovie fails again he goes down further in the nfl hierarchy and maybe has a hard time finding any work for a while. in any case he must not have much if any faith in lovie pulling out of this flat spin.
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hmmmm a coach that has done nothing except broke records in detroit for losing. a coach who came here and i certainly don't see any drastic results and he refuses to move into a position he has never had before. if true just how bad will their second choice be? LOL
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and then it's deja' vu all over again. no substance just smoke and mirrors.
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even if we made one hire (that being a new knowledgeable president of football operations with power to hire and fire) i would be happier than just bringing in another 'head coach in training' hired by imbeciles. at least we would be starting at the freaking core of the problem with this franchise instead of changing the train wreck end results that the people in power put there. if we keep angelo, phillips and again hire some untested nobodies then what is the point of firing this coaching staff at all? we might just as well let lovie and the rest of the incompetents play out their string. as i see it, who would choose the new unproven coaching staff? the same guy that chose the current one? the one who is tied to an incompetent unknowledgeable presidents purse strings? the guy who not only can't judge or draft player talent but a guy who judges coaching talent even worse!!!?? is this the guy who extended jauron and shoop then fired them 2 years later, the guy who hired lovie and three offensive coordinators and signed off putting a moron in charge of our defense for 2 years? the guy who extended the current staff and now 2 years later wants to fire THEM? if it's not him making these catastrophic moves but our idiot president then just what good is he anyway? having said that i still have to ask.... if you say you don't think it's money that will keep this midget clown car full of mental midgets in chicago then what is it? if it's not money why would you keep angelo OR lovie? they both have failed miserably!! is the only other possible conclusion that phillips AND the mccaskey's are complete football idiots and don't know any better??? so in talking about grimm or someone like him everyone believes he will be basically an angelo puppet without teeth? why would we want someone who is subservient to angelo if everyone including you thinks angelo is an idiot??? what have we gained by that other than another coaching test period and wasted years waiting for him to have his chance to succeed or FAIL? we know what these primo coaches are capable of so why gamble on complete unknowns yet again? who hired turner? lovie? what top notch head coach have we ever hired with the exception of wanny? they were all bottom feeders who worked for peanuts. don't you see any difference when you hire someone with a reputation of already having done it before and done it well? i think you need to look at what we paid our head coaches who have started here recently. lovie's payscale was at the bottom of the league when we hired him. what do you think his assistants were paid? how could we lure good assistant talent without paying them anything? lofty dreams? to do what is sane and intelligent to run a freaking sporting franchise? no, it takes common sense and opening up your wallet. nothing more and nothing less. grimm being the realistic solution? to what? more mediocrity? hey he could turn out to be a HOF coach in the future but right now with this franchise it's yet another HUGE gamble/mistake to bring in an unknown. and this reasoning means just what? why go for the brass ring if you could fall off this merry-go-round to nowhere? we are not like other teams. we have never tried it...EVER!!! right now we need a good president of football operations to start out with then good talent evaluators and scouts, then a good GM, and THEN a good coaching staff. since we don't have a good president AND we don't have a good GM (and it appears unlikely we will get one) it is imperative we have a PROVEN, excellent coaching staff to even have a chance. yet all i hear is what we can settle for which is what we have settled for over the last 20+ years. the russ grimms or himendingers or jaurons or lovie whoevers.
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i totally do not agree with this. sitting on your hands IS something CHEAP teams do when there are THREE top notch good coaches with superbowl experience and your coaching candidates have been putrid for decades. this could be a once in a lifetime experience and we, as usual, do nothing. i don't care how many assistants or college coaching candidates others hire. WE need someone with experience on how to run this team. as far as surrounding yet ANOTHER amateur with experienced assistants.... is any head coaching candidate worth $%!& not going to want to bring in his own assistants? who in his right mind would be saddled with that kind of system? also what are you going to pay this inexperienced head coach? less than what you pay your experienced coordinators? it's just another freaking mess we will end up with and waste another 4-6 years in which time cutler will be about ready to retire. we always compromise for 2nd and 3rd tier management. isn't it time for a real change?
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rather than putting a bandaid on a blown off leg and hiring yet ANOTHER head coach in training if there is only one change this cheap organization makes i HOPE it is replacing ted phillips with someone who is football savvy as president and let him make the decisions for our future. we already missed out on holmgren. could we offer ron wolf the freaking moon to become the president of this sorry arced franchise? we have to start at the top and work down (or is that giving the mccaskey's too much credit for intelligence?) or i see us doing this all yet again in 2014. give him total power over football operations to hire/fire a gm and work with that gm to bring in a head coach and a new scouting department. if not wolf find someone who is not only football smart but who has experience. start calling NOW before everyone is gone yet again (this should have been done at the very latest LAST season). this is the best start we can hope for to really make any impact on this franchises future.
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and it begins again. even IF this franchise comes to any conclusions in regards to the status of their president, gm, head coach, etc. etc. all the top talent will be long gone and we will either make due with what we have or settle for the 3rd or 4th best candidate out there. this is just one reason why this franchise continues to spin it's wheels and has gone absolutely nowhere year after year. they never plan for ANY contingencies and seem genuinely surprised as to the well being of their OWN team when it fails. all this while the fans and the freakin media have had it figured out for months, years or decades. so salute', ted the bean counter, your job is secure (whatever that may be).
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Moon Mullin says Smith will be back in 2010
Lucky Luciano replied to madlithuanian's topic in Bearstalk
i commented on this in a previous post... is there a method to this madness? by dragging their penny loafers they save on two fronts. 1. they don't have to pay (yet again) another coach under contract to go away, no matter how bad, or what this does to the future health of this franchise in time lag. 2. they don't have to pay a high end coaching prospect the kind of money he will demand from this organization. by the time we fire the drones currently in chicago the best coaching prospects will be virtually gone. they won't have to answer to the media or their fan base as to why we didn't go after prime coaching targets. this is basically the same process we used in finding a gm. at this point i just can't believe anyone doesn't believe these moves/non-moves are not a byproduct of this organizations cheapness. how can anyone explain that you don't do what is good for the franchise because of the amount of the money they could 'possibly' spend in a non cap season is the reason that they sit on their hands? -
if this franchise does decide to keep angelo, which i think is a mistake, then it is even more important to hire a president/vice in charge of football operations that is knowledgeable to oversee this portion of our team. someone who has the smarts to have input and say no to angelo in regards to drafts and free agent acquisitions and restructure our scouting department. i just fear if we dump angelo and hire a two position gm/coach we will end up like seattle in 4 years after holmgren's failure. the problem i see with gm/coaching is problems that arise from player contract negotiations and trading/cutting players not to mention assistants. it just breeds distrust between players, assistant coaches and your gm/coach. plus it is too much of a work load combining these two different type of duties on a single person and neither position gets the full attention of the candidate. gruden scares the hell out of me at this point. at one time i was on his bandwagon but after seeing this guy in the media i think he is loony-toons and don't want any part of him. actually i would have thought that cowher would have been the front runner who wanted control of the gm position rather than shanny. shanny just got fired for basically the same thing that happened to holmgren in seattle. the failure of both jobs combined in coach/gm. in either case if we keep angelo it would be to our benefit if either coach, shanny or cowher, had at least some teeth in regards to drafting, scouting and free agents. that is one reason why i would like to see a new president to avoid this type of mess.
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as far as who... i don't even know who is out there and what qualifications any of them at this point have. this is just one problem with the structure in chicago. we have a president who is football dumb and nobody in upper management to trust with any decisions as important as hiring a gm. THIS is the reason i wanted to hire a holmgren type president or if phillips thinks he needs control of the reins then hire a football minded vice president in charge of football operations. then a holmgren or someone knowledgeable can make the decision to either hire a separate gm OR hire the coach/gm type of person like cowher/shanny to wear both hats. that way there is accountability overseeing the important gm portion of this franchise and advise or work with him in the gm type duties. if things didn't work out he can demote the gm responsibility from the coach and go with an actual GM to oversee this portion of operations. also this president/vice president can oversee the scouting department which is critical at this juncture.
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if a miracle happens and we dump the garbage in chicago i don't want to bring in a coach with the mantle of GM. even with a cowher or shanny i think it would be a mistake to give either this dual role because it just doesn't work. that is not to say i want to handcuff either of these quality type coaches to have no say in FA personnel or especially the draft. at the least they should work with someone similar to the way cowher worked with colbert in pitt but in any event it is just too much for a coach to fill in both roles by himself and be good at either. also in my opinion we are going to have to shake up the scouting department along with any qualified gm we hire as it seems the number, talent or responsibilities of our scouts is lacking.
