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Just thinking out loud here; but how does QB Coach Dave Ragone figure in all this? Because I was curious and occasionally do some actual ‘research’ I found he was the only offensive carry over from the Fox era. And was credited for Trubiksy’s partial success last year. So shouldn’t he be partly to blame for Trubiksy’s regression as well? Or perhaps more appropriately, his stagnation? It seems odd that Heistand and Helfrich were canned for their ‘failures’ so too should Ragone. Or maybe they’re planning on keeping him for next year in case they need another patsy?

Was just reading the news about Helfrich. IMHO he is the fall guy or patsy for Nagy and by some extension Pace. We all know Pace can not afford to admit Trubisky isn’t what he hoped he’d be. And because he hired Nagy to groom Trubisky (and failed so far), they’re all interconnected. Canning Helfrich buys them all more time. And that’s because they think none of us are paying attention or at least hope we aren’t. You can’t tell me that Nagy didn’t call and orchestrate most of the offensive play calling this year. But another year of 8-8 and subpar offensive performance will put them all on the block. PS...I’m personally glad to see Pagano is safe...for now.

Yeah to consider they only dropped a few spots overall with some of the losses throughout the season and before the season, Pagano did pretty well. Hindsight being what it is, the loss of both Amos and Callahan were bigger than originally thought. There were some key games where the defense seemed like they were out there A LOT longer than they should have been and looked gassed because of it. The Denver and Oakland games immediately come to mind. The offense was abysmal or at least ranked near the bottom in almost all categories making the defense have to over perform. You can’t win games like that, no matter how ‘easy’ or difficult your schedule is.

I see what you’re up to. Lol!!! This talk of using Patterson more than just as a gimmicky/Kick Returner makes sense. In a few ‘traditional’ designed plays so far this year alone he managed to get a significant amount of yardage. A few weeks ago against Dallas(?) and then yesterday against Minn. For a big (and older) dude he’s amazingly agile..and fast. Reminds me some of former WR converted to RB Ty Montgomery. He was used with success in GB, so too could Patterson.

So two things; shouldn’t they referred to LAV (or whatever they’re new code will be)? And is there a possibility that Carr will leave Oakland? Would it be a trade scenario? If so, maybe a deal including the return of Mack to the Vegas Raiders? I love the guy but personally see more a need at QB than at his position.

Like the way you think. I know he’s struggled in Michigan but maybe Harbaugh in Chicago would do wonders for the team. Sorta like bringing a newer version of Ditka back. And is Denver doesn’t do better next year Fangio could be looking for a new job. Imagine Harbaugh and Fangio on the same coaching staff...again? ... hmmm. If only there were a way to get Burrow.

Yes there were some good things to see in the game, but most of those positives had to be taken with a grain of salt. First, and this can’t be emphasized enough our starting team played their scout team; on both offense and defense. The score for the first half and part of the 3rd quarter reflected that although the play did not. I missed most of the fourth quarter but from the looks of things, our team very nearly gave up a 15(?) point lead to that same second string team. And the only way our team wins is due to some last minute heroics or was it their mistakes? Lots of things need fixing for next year. Anyone and everyone who returns next year will be on a VERY short leash. I’m looking at you Nagy, Pace and Trubisky.

Given the circumstances, the QB sneak on 4th down was the right thing to do until it wasn’t. The set up was lackadaisical and generally lazy looking. To me that is a coaching issue. The resulting TD from the Vikings was a gimme from Nagy. Defense has decided they’ve had enough and are checking out. Of course had the team been playing for anything next week, there’s no way they would have gone for it.

More like HE was carried into the end zone by his OLmen. And you said they couldn’t block...lol

I’m looking forward to welcoming my GB friends to the off-season. If not next week probably the week after that .

One thing for sure is Pinerio is getting a lot of practice in. After a shaky start to the season he’s come along nicely.

Saw someone (on another Bears fan site) question if KPL shouldn’t be looked at as an OLB? I’d have to say that might not be a bad thought, with the aforementioned bust that is Floyd possibly on the way out, why not? Being a former Safety, KPL undoubtably has the lateral pass coverage ability sometimes asked of OLBs to do. I’d think with a starting LB crew of Mack, Smith, Kwit(or Trevathan) and KPL we’d be pretty good in the middle.

They said something about Patterson being in concussion protocol. Ugh... But surely there are some other players that could do those KR duties. Something tells me we’ll see who that is soon.

That being said, he’ll get picked up by the Pats and win two SBs with them.

Was just going to bring that up. Floyd playing like he’s ready for the season to be over, without doing much this year. Think it’s safe to call him a first round bust (thanks again Pace).

...and another 3 pts after the Bears second takeaway...against Minnesota’s JV. -yay-

I absolutely love this guy. He is an absolute silver lining since starting a few weeks back. And how about Patterson? Some intriguing plays out of the backfield.

Two takeaways since...3 pts to show for it. Against Minnesota’s JV team. yay

Word!

Nah he’s just making a statement...sorta like your comment above. Hindsight is what it is...

Ha!!!

I stole Mongo’s quote from the other string because I agree with it. Below: “Wholesale changes like that are rarely fruitful. It takes time to build an OL. My thoughts are to meet with them at seasons end and tell them to put there man pants on. Maybe say goodbye to someone to send a message or let them know they'll be cut at the last possible moment so they can't get a good contract elsewhere. Light a fire. Draft someone highly and bring in a hard core vet. I see two, there at the most.” These are all good ideas, especially with most of them on relatively newer deals. I think most of us would agree there are some potential talent in players like Bars and even Coward. Coward has struggled doe this year but maybe he’d be the opposite of what we’ve seen with Leno after having a talk(?). Whitehair and Daniels are keepers, IMHO. Beyond that...yeah not much else. Current Redskins linemen Scherrf and Williams are mentioned in the below article as potential acquisitions through either Free Agency or trade: https://beargoggleson.com/2019/11/27/chicago-bears-offensive-linemen-free-agents-2020/

When I saw Kwit nearly intercept Rodgers pass last week I immediately thought of Urlacher when he did it (against Rodgers) and returned it something like 50 yards. They looked very similar streaking across the middle.

Indeed.

To be fair, I did write ‘college’ but I did not realize he and Woods both made the conversion. (Was actually thinking of Urlacher). Wouldn’t it be sweet if any one of these three guys; Iyiegbuniwe, Woods or KPL were able to rise to the level of play equal to Urlacher?