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Alaskan Grizzly

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  1. The rant is not unwarranted.  I would agree with what you're saying.  IMHO the media (in large) is in a losing battle with social media.  Where now you have millions of 'experts' all trying to clickbait you into their opinion or point of view or 'first perspective' the vetting that used to go on with traditional (aka tried and true) reporting is no longer.  Its all about 'me first' and in a lot of cases, how can I make more money?   Walter Cronkite and even Howard Cosell I'm sure are rolling in their respective graves.  

  2. 5 hours ago, Daventry said:

    am really surprised at the stance you seem to be taking, anti-everything the Bears do and what most think is the correct path.  Enjoy being a rebel?  Just for the sake of it?

    Sure I like a good healthy debate from time to time but actually I posted this because I was disappointed with RG3 taking this stance.  Although he has an interesting perspective (having won the Heisman and nearly being chosen #1 overall) I didn’t really think he should’ve come out to suggest Caleb choose this option. 
     

    But to your point, offering a counterpoint from time to time is ok here right? As long as it focuses on Bears football and not personal attacks? 

    ~signed Goat’s A$$ Antagonist
     😎👍

  3. Well with regards to "what's next" we know that tomorrow (20 March) is the Pro Day at USC.  And Poles and Flus are on their way...even if it is not by private jet.  

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  4. 1 hour ago, BearFan PHX said:

    But then again, Caleb had a crappy surrounding cast and did a lot of things on the field that Justin never did in Chicago.

    College to NFL = Apples to Oranges

    1 hour ago, BearFan PHX said:

    I think you're reading too much sportwriter narrative here. Caleb has dozens and dozens of plays on tape playing in structure. People may think he looks for home runs too much, but that doesnt mean he doesnt play successfully  in structure regularly. 

    Speaking of "structure" Williams is a product of Lincoln Riley's offense who also produced fellow Heisman winners Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray.  And when Williams chose to sit out the Holiday Bowl last year saw backup Miller Moss throw for 372 yards and 6TDs.  

  5. 2 hours ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:

    That stuff out there - was not factual - legit NFL reports have denied every existence of it.  

    Some of his 'red flag' reporting appears to be the 'he-said, they-said' variety.  We do know he does not have an agent, not all that peculiar but we've had experience with Roquan Smith not having one and that caused some frustration and delays.  And the other things we've heard about are summarized here.  To include a sub-link to the Athletic about he/his father wanting to get a stake in ownership.  I don't have a subscription to Athletic to read it all, but maybe others can and summarize(?) 

    https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/caleb-williams-red-flags-explained-father-agent/ebdb755e7ba9096db47e46a2

  6. 1 hour ago, BearFan PHX said:

    When a guy is looking right at an open receiver, and that open receiver is hitting his break before any others, and Justin's hips are pointed toward that receiver, and his arm is up to throw - it isn't hard to know that was his first read.

    In that All-22 you asked me to watch I saw a handful of times where Williams had open receivers that were missed before he did a dump off to another location.  Were those his primary reads?  Hard to say.  Warner saw and commented a few times himself on them.   

     

    1 hour ago, BearFan PHX said:

    And then you read a ton of people writing the same thing, and then you go back to college scouts saying the same thing.

    Like how Williams has been noted to hold onto the ball longer than Justin at times?  

  7. 19 hours ago, AZ54 said:

    The average opinion here is that Williams is generational.   I think I’m the only curmudgeon.  

    I may not be a curmudgeon but I'm nowhere convinced he's "generational".  

  8. 3 hours ago, adam said:

    Also, he (Daniels) didn't play particularly well against top opponents, his last two games against Alabama he averaged 200 yards passing. His last game against Georgia, 208 yards passing. He was 1-2 in those games against top defenses. In 2023, he faced 2 top 10 teams, Alabama and Florida St, and he lost both. In 2022, he was 2-2 against ranked teams.

    So playing against 'NFL ready defenses' in the form of Alabama and Georgia makes you less likely to succeed in the NFL?  This is a similar discussion we had about Justin due to his having a 20-2 overall collegiate record (while with OSU) and those two losses being in the college playoffs.  

    Nevertheless, Williams overall record against 'top 25-ranked' teams was 6-8. 

    In 2022 he had three losses; the first to Utah (who was ranked 20th at the time), then Utah again during the PAC12 Conference Championship.  This time Utah was ranked 12th and USC lost 47-24.  The last loss of his Heisman season was at the Cotton Bowl against 14th ranked Tulane.  

    Last year he amassed 5 losses.  The first to 10th ranked Notre Dame (48-20), the next was to those pesky Utes from Utah (who this time were ranked 14th), then after beating California (unranked) USC closed out the season with three straight losses.  Washington (5th), Oregon (6th) and UCLA (20th). By the time they entered the post-season to play Louisville in the Holiday Bowl, USC was ranked 24 and as we recall Williams opted to sit this one out.  

  9. 26 minutes ago, dawhizz said:

    If you’re comparing them, it’s also worth noting that Daniels is throwing to two first round picks while Caleb’s top two receivers look to be Day 3 picks

    Simply put, is it the receiver or the passer that makes them look good?  As I’ve been reminded numerous times, great QBs make other players look great.  
     

    And although I know who Adam was referring to the other day when he mentioned a college QB struggled in the NFL after having 1st round WRs to throw so, I asked sarcastically was he referring to Joe Burrow?  

  10. 1 hour ago, adam said:

    Fields is no different than Trubisky at this point, I wish him well and hope he turns into something. I will root for him wherever he goes. However, he is no longer a Bear, just like Mooney. So I am moving on, no need to waste my time or energy on a former player. 

    No doubt however he does elsewhere will be measured to whomever replaces him.  I would suspect that to last a while. 

    And FWIW, although technically correct, I would (respectfully) disagree he’s ’just like Trubisky’ as his fan base has been much more invested this time round.  And because of that the Ghost of Justin will be around for a bit.   Only way to exorcise that is for whomever replaces him to play their ‘cajones out’.  

  11. 2 minutes ago, adam said:

    My thought was Williams has never thrown to anyone as high caliber as Moore or Allen. The one thing for me that stands out for Williams over every other QB is how he keeps his head up and eyes downfield, to the point where it looks like his helmet is on a gimbal and his body is moving below a static helmet.

    Maybe.  The one All-22 that PHX asked me to loook at showed him doing a lot of single read quick dumps to short route receivers.  There wasn’t much in the way of reading off of safeties that I saw. Maybe he does it well, I dunno but that’s just one plus (if accurate) in his arsenal. FWIW I saw Daniels do that very thing in the All22 I shared earlier and the commentator said as much. 
     

    The one big difference for me (besides the other stuff I mentioned before) is how more accurate Daniels appears downfield than Williams. Granted the video I shared had some drops he at least hit the receiver ‘in the vicinity’.  Whereas Williams has a tendency to sail his long throws. 
     

    This post brought to you courtesy of Costco Irish Whisky and a Guinness chaser.  Happy St Pats day.  ☘️🍀🍻🍺

  12. 37 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

    Rappoport reporting that Poles had 5 teams called about Justin. Justin wanted to go to Pittsburgh and Poles made that happen. That's why there's no compensation. He wanted to be fair to Justin. Had he did it right after the combine, he might have gotten more when teams were signing QBs but it is what it is. Probably the best he could have gotten was a 3.

    Yeah was just reading about that.  Takes the sting a little out of Justin moving on for peanuts.  But curious who those other teams were and what they were offering. Poles must not have been as concerned on the return in this instance. 
     

     

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  13. 20 minutes ago, adam said:

    Daniels scares me a little because he did that throwing to Nabers and Thomas, two likely first rounders. Daniels also did that as a 5th Year Senior, not a Junior. Look at what he did his Junior Year and Senior Year, and you would have a completely different perspective about him. He basically stayed in school to pad his numbers on a stacked team, and it worked. He would not have been a highly selected draft pick last year even though he was eligible. 

    Understood. And earlier in the year I was less inclined to like 5th (or older) year Seniors coming out.  BUT, if you consider he’s playing against NFL ready defenses in the SEC AND he got better, not worse, then I think that is something definitely to consider.  As far as the ‘NFL caliber’ players he’s playing with, I only ask: how do you think these players got so good?  Isn’t Poles building a “stacked team” for some rookie (or QB not named Fields) to work with?  🤷🏻‍♂️

    With Williams he actually regressed from 2022-23.  So who's to say he wouldn’t continue that regression from last year to this?  And if he does and is drafted by Chicago…welp.

    27 minutes ago, adam said:

    Also, there was a QB a few years ago who was also throwing to multiple 1st Round WRs in college, and that QB didn't work out.

    You mean Joe Burrow? 

     

  14. On 3/16/2024 at 10:30 AM, Mongo3451 said:

    That analyst is good.

    Found the same guy do an All-22 breakdown on Daniels (below).  I have to admit he does a nice laymen termed breakdown of what he's seeing. Really helps with the analysis.  As I see more of these and now with Justin out of the picture, I'd have to say Daniels has moved up for me.  Before it was Nix but only as a developmental piece after we gave Justin one more year.  From watching the review on this, I see a player complete passes pretty much wherever.  I don't see him locking onto players as much and where Williams falters (on the long ball) he does much better at.  I also like the fact he's more 'prototypical' in being 6'4" vs Williams 6'1' (allegedly).  The one thing I don't like is that he's a Heisman winner and goes against my concern of how Heisman winners traditionally don't pan out; at the very least don't win Super Bowls as often.  Daniels' record while at LSU (an SEC team) was 19-7.  Oddly enough he split against Alabama losing to them this year (the video example below) but beat them last year.  

    Comparatively for the 2023 season here's how Daniels did head-to-head against Williams:

    Williams:  266/388   3,633 yards 9.4 avg 30 TDs 5 INTs (170.15 rating)

    Daniels:   236/327   3,812 yards 11.7 avg 40 TDs 4 INTs (208.0 rating)      

     

  15. 15 minutes ago, AZ54 said:

    What luck.  I decide to go to PFN to play around with some mocks and trade back to #2.  I've been doing this off and on for weeks.  For the first time today I get this:  image.png

    REALLY Like the idea of trading out of 1 but you really think Wash would pass on getting Williams if they could?  In the grad scheme of your draft it wouldn’t make a whole lot of difference (I assume you go with Maye?) but whats important is you get players like MHJ and Alt at the top end of the draft. 

  16. 1 hour ago, AZ54 said:

    I'll take the talented blue collar football players over the talented princesses all day long, plus my extra picks.  

    This.  ☝️👆👍

    Except for me is Daniels.  And at a distant second Nix. 

  17. 1 hour ago, CrackerDog said:

    I’m embarrassed to have believed in Poles

    Yeah to say I’m disappointed would be an understatement.  Not so much about Justin leaving (that sucks) but to me there still seems to be more holes than high end - quality draft picks left.

    Oh well I guess we have to trust Poles knows what he’s doing.  

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