Mongo3451

Yeah, put me down as disappointed. My only complaint on Poles was that he didn't get us a center last year and it killed us. If it kills us again, it will be unforgivable.

There could also be a scenario that we keep Fields and draft Caleb. People initially stated that it would be a tough locker room to win with Justin in it. Now, of it's true that Fields has lite market value, Poles can have a frank conversation with Justin about what his role is. "You're going to be the starter next season until Caleb is ready. If you believe you are a franchise QB you have at least six weeks to audition and prove it." Trade deadline comes and we may decide to trade Caleb if Justin transcends. Win win, either way it goes.

How much?

I don't understand it. Every team in the NFL can trade for him. I found it stupid from true beginning. At the combine, 4 medical teams evaluate you, then it's over. He chooses to have it done numerous separate times, which I would find overwhelming.

Good thing is, we don't have to pinch pennies yet. Good to get your guy.

They interviewed him for six hours. You don't have to marry the girl if she gives you want you want...

Hopefully on a reasonable deal. He's on the downside of his career.

I'm with you guys. At some point, your QB has to elevate the talent around him. Justin never did that. To Jason's point, how many times did someone come up the middle unabated? However, when you have a QB with a slow drop back and slower trigger, it's a recipe for what Justin gave us. Williams may have the fastest drop back I've seen, with a top five all time release. Does that translate to winning? It doesn't hurt at all...

That's a very good argument for keeping Justin. I salivate over what we could draft by trading the number 1. What you call the smart play, I call the safe play. The surest thing we know is that we will win ten games this year, with Justin. The Justin detractors have seen enough though. It's weird, with me being a detractor, because I'll be excited if they keep him. But, I want to move on. The more film I watch on Caleb, the more I'm down for that. What's also crazy, it's that I wouldn't mind trading the one for the two and taking Maye. Then again we that's the safe way.

I love it, but you know that trade ain't gonna work that way.

Disagree. If a 3rd is the offer and he wants to draft his QB, then a third it will be. Also, it's not disrespectful to trade a guy to give him a chance elsewhere, no matter the price. Lastly, respect had no bearing on this decision. It's about what's best for the team. And it's not best to keep Justin while your new QB is developing, because Justin has the locker room. And if respect does come into play, you have to respect the future more than the past these days and especially this situation.

Isn't that what I just said...?

No. Poles said he'd have to be blown away by a QB prospect before he would replace Fields. That being said, he hasn't had the chance to be blown away by the big three, unless you count interviews. Therefore, the decision on Fields has yet to be made. I think we would all be disappointed in Poles if he didn't perform his due diligence.

Correct. Decision on 1 has to come before decision on Justin.

While I agree he will be traded, Poles has stated that someone would have to blow him away. Did that happen yet? Untill pro days pass, he can't be convinced, especially when Caleb hasn't provided a physical.

Center was so bad, I just want a, lock down, pure center. The flexibility is cool. If he can be the guy at center, sure.

No.

Fingers crossed for a good starting center...

Easy Skip. I could tell you I took the biggest shit ever and you'd want to measure it. Justin is merely a bargaining chip at this point. You had your Mitch moment...?

There is a huge eclipse next month. Total darkness...?

If we can sign and draft EDGE and sign and draft OL, that would help us get two weapons to throw to. This is a very deep WR and TE class. I would love to come out with two WR's and a move TE.

Dang, Simms has been hot on picking the best QBs. I may have to take his lead. BTW - welcome to the board. Good Chris Simms QB calls 2017: Called Patrick Mahomes the most special QB in the draft. 2018: Ranked Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen over Mayfield/Darnold/Rosen. 2020: Had Burrow-Herbert-Love-Tua as top 4. 2023: Ranked C.J. Stroud over Bryce Young.

I'm liking that the market is flooded with safeties and IOL...

I think we all agree Justin improved. My only concern is, did he grow enough? It's still the biggest story of the year. I'm ? on board with what Poles does, while praying Warren and George don't meddle.

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