jason

EXACTLY. We're not lost. We're disillusioned for the reasoning above. The whole "he'll be better because of the surrounding cast"-logic can be applied to ANY position, so it doesn't fly. You put Troy Polamalu on the same side as an average DB, and then provide a decent pass rush, and that DB's job becomes easy. I want a guy who will excel without the requirement of a superb supporting cast, but I also want holes to be filled THIS YEAR with a first rounder. Fuller might be the former, but he is definitely not the latter. Unless Peanut agrees to move to FS, which he has fought already, Fuller will play about 50% of the snaps on defense (based upon the link I provided earlier regarding last year's #3 DB). With the problems on defense the Bears had last year at DT and FS, we should have used the first rounder on a guy who will be an immediately impact and play 100% of the defensive snaps.

The DTs played out exactly as I said. There is great depth there. There is a good chance more than one will fall. Too bad Safeties didn't.

I wouldn't say it's flushed. It's just that the Safeties dropped off a cliff after the first three - or four depending on view. And that's still the #1 team need based on starter weakness. DT value in rd2 should be nice, so Safety probably gets skipped again.

What this means is, he is a nickel this year, and Peanut is gone after this 1-yr contract. Hope he turns into Deion Sanders, but generally you want a first rounder, especially a top 15 guy, to be on the field more than 50% of the defensive plays.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb..._medium=twitter Nickel corner was on the field less than 50% last year. :/

Disagree. Conte was bad to average, but the front seven made up for his deficiencies. Basically he's a guy who needs all the support to succeed. He's like a RB who needs a probowl offensive line. Sure, he will hit the hole, but he's not going to dominate individually.

It's going to make me sick if HHCD turns into a stud.

Deal with it? Agreed. Like it? No. Question it if it doesn't work? Absolutely.

Maybe it's because we realize what the biggest need is and want to see BPA and need combined. I'd rather see BPA and need than just BPA, provided the need isn't a reach.

I don't know about 70%, and even if it were 70%, whoever the Safety is required to cover is going to exploit that major weakness.

So you disagree and then basically say that he will be a nickels corner? You draft first round for year one. First round players should start year one. Period.

I hate that reasoning for two reasons. 1. If they wanted Safety, they should gave drafted a freaking safety. The two best were there. And studies have shown (link from previous thread) that drafting a first round safety is basically a guarantee. 2. You're basically saying that the safeties we have REQUIRE a stud DL and LB core to succeed. I'd rather have a FS who can succeed without needing a superb front 7.

And if Peanut doesn't move? It's a first round nickel corner. Bad value if that's what it is.

Thanks goodness they didn't go LB. That just doesn't make sense. CB makes more sense, but not as much as S and DT. Also. It's not as easy to finda good safety late...just look at the roster since Mike Brown.

Got too cute. FS flew off the board and at best there is minimal value. DT in the second.

Not a smart pick IMO. Not with FS being a much greater need and the top two FS on the board.

Not happy.

I dislike it. DT, SS, and GMFS were greater needs.

I think it's Defense all the way. Lovie sucks

SF picks Telvin Smith, OLB, Florida State

But what if ALL THREE are on the board?! Then I say you make the move.

bradjock is probably away...let's go ahead and draft for him. San Diego already grabbed WR and CB, two of their biggest needs. At 89, San Diego selects Daniel McCullers, NT, Tennessee. Massive dude. Big need. Starts immediately in their 3-4. Indy (Stinger) is on the clock

I'd like that draft a lot. It's just too bad there aren't any B10 Safeties worth a damn.

The Bears' 3rd-6th picks equal out to about the value of a pick in the bottom of the second round. Bears 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 6th for a lower 2nd round pick. Would you make that kind of move? Suppose the following: 1. Donald is gone in the first, but Pryor and HHCD are available. 2. One of three DTs falls (Hageman, Jernigan, Tuitt) 2. Someone we like is there. In this scenario, I would be pretty happy to see: 1. HHCD - Starts at FS immediately and reminds us of Mike Brown 2. Jernigan - Any of the three would make me happy at this point, but 2. Bucannon - Starts at SS immediately and It'd be unconventional for sure, but I don't think I'd be super unhappy with it. They're more likely to start than a 6th rounder anyway.

Just for fun, an all Notre Dame draft would work as well: 1 - Zack Martin, OG - Not a good fit for the Bears, but many scouts believe he could play OT or OG. 2 - Stephon Tuitt, DT - Possible 3 - Louis Nix, DT - Unlikely he falls this far, but that would be a great pairing. 4 - Troy Niklas, TE - A lot of y'all like TE. He's maybe the 2nd best. 5 - TJ Jones, WR - Meh 6 - Prince Shembo, OLB - Meh 6 - Chris Watt, OG - Wasted pick, but it'd complete the Notre Dame draft.