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Is it my birthday and Christmas at the same time? Did I rub a genie lamp and not know it? I swear I’m nearly in tears. It’s FINALLY HAPPENING!
THE BEARS ARE FOCUSING IN OLINE!
I am so pumped about this season.
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4 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:
Thank you.
All said, if Jeanty is deemed the dude that can help the new OL and Caleb succeed, I'm in. Swift would be a good third down back, with Roschon being the third back. That would be solid.
I’m not. If that is deemed, then I guaran-damn-tee it shouldn’t have been. Picking a RB in the first would be a classically stupid Bears move with so many other holes. I’ve even had friends call and laugh about this, like when we drafted Benson.
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7 hours ago, Stinger226 said:
Dalman is the prize and will earn 10-15 Mil. Poles could decide to bring him in instead of the big spend on Trey Smith. Sign Kevin Zeilter and could get 2 players for the same money as Smith.
Yes please.
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13 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:
I saw it a little differently. Jalen Carter had a great game. His job yesterday was to keep gap discipline and he did it very well. Mahomes had nowhere to go all game. If you look back at it, Carter usually had Smith in a position where he could shed him. PFF will tell you Smith was the Chiefs best OL yesterday and he may have been. But as Carter was a beast.
100% agree, which is ONE REASON why PFF stats suck.
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On 1/23/2025 at 10:02 PM, Stinger226 said:
It's just for looks but I think you're right,it gets names out there for hire, if not now later. If a black coach had the creed that Johnson has, he would be the hire. I get it is imbalanced but if you look at rosters in the league, there is an unbalance for white players. Players are based on merit not color, coaches should be also.
The bears have a Black president, Black GM and black assistant GM, the inequality narrative no longer applies in the NFL anymore.
That’s always been my issue with the “there are 75% black players so there should be more black coaches”-argument. Where the hell does everyone think the white players go when they aren’t good enough to play any more but still desperately want to be connected to football? It’s not about some hidden racism like it may have been in the 60s or before. These are multimillion dollar organizations, and guys like Mike Tomlin can get a job whenever he wants. Otherwise, it’s a pure numbers game, and there are probably always going to be more white coaches based purely on population and statistics.
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7 hours ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:
It was a trade down mock to feel it out. I don't know much about TE Fannin other than seeing him at the top of the 2nd round and his enticing write-up. Princely's draft profile says he has great burst, but needs strength, so who knows. Zabel is a name from the senior bowl. Seems like a project to make him a center, so i can agree about passing.
Check this out and you tell me. Princely looks like he’s on a half second delay after every single snap. But he’s strong and builds up speed, dislodging OTs upon contact. I’m not a huge fan because dudes with that skill set have a better chance of getting swallowed whole in the NFL, where OTs resemble dancing, 300-lb monsters with butterball turkeys for fists.
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On 2/6/2025 at 11:22 AM, AZ54 said:
I’m ok with Coleman Shelton for another year and drafting his replacement. The other FA centers are not significantly better, if at all, so put our money in a place where we will get much more improvement for our $$$. I’m also not opposed to bringing back Jenkins on a short term deal if it’s reasonable. While drafting his replacement too. I believe better coaching can help him avoid his occasional missteps. I get the injury concern but that’s what keeps him away from the big money. You can swap in any second tier FA LG too, just stick to the budget and draft the future.
Isn’t the USC Center that played some with Caleb Williams available in this draft? Why not burn a 4th-5th to get him and make Caleb happy?
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24 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:
Bears trade pick 10 to KC for 32, 64, 66, and 96. I didn't look up the trade chart values. My picks are also way out there.
A monster S at rd 1-32, he has speed, strength and high IQ to lead the backfield for 8-10 yrs. Next is a move TE that is a Deebo Samuel clone and a piece Johnson can use his creativity to exploit defenses. For Oline-Zabel who they can develop at C, Jack Nelson a Wisconsin LT who can play anywhere across the line and a Georgia RG with plus size. Dline- Dexter's best man, the Prince at DE and big man Walker at NT. Skateboo as our poor man RB -McCaffery. Last a QB that can be a Taysom Hill threat and develop as a quality backup. In FA, just get Trey Smith LG and I think we made the transition to be scary good.
I like the thought process of this draft, but not selections.
Fannin - Bowling Green smells like Ashland to me.
Princely - Slow first step. He’s going to be a bust.
Zabel - Still smells like Ashland.
too much competition level risk that early for my tastes.
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9 hours ago, Stinger226 said:
They're not trading assets to get a star, that's something teams do when they're one player away.
They're a few must take players if they fall to them. Harmon, Carter, Banks and Campbell. If they're not there, a move back 5-10 spots and get an extra top 50 pick would be ideal.
I would love Campbell and make him a center and draft a guard and tackle. 2 DL players and fill in with a RB and WR.
I think Campbell would be a all pro center type. It would be great to grow with Caleb. As a LT, he called all the line plays for LSU. Great football IQ.
Take a LT from a major college program, draft him early, and then convert him into a center?
Respectfully, that’s an atrocious idea.
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I saw a draft where the Bears traded their first to CLE. That would take their 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, and future 2nd. At first I wasn’t sure I liked it, but looking at some players available, the idea isn’t bad.
2.01-Jonah Savaiinaea, OG, AZ - Monster. Takes Pryor’s job day one.
2.07-Jack Sawyer, DE, OSU - Temu Watt brother takes Walker’s job day one.
2.09-Wyatt Milum, OT, WV - ZERO sacks or pressures in 2024. Takes Borom’s job before the draft is over.
3.03-Tate Ratledge, OG, UGA: Has everything we thought Teven Jenkins would be.
3.08-Andrew Mukuba, FS, TX: Google “Mukuba Stockton hit.” He starts by mid season at worst.
3.30-Cam Skattebo, RB, AZST: Gritty. Has heart. Hard to argue with production.
That’d be quite a haul and likely fill most major holes immediately.
Would you make that trade? If so, what would you do in those draft slots?
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On 1/26/2025 at 7:46 AM, CrackerDog said:
I prefer occasionally getting burned by aggressiveness than being just safe enough to lose the game.
Preach. Which is why the Lovie-2 was so infuriating and probably took years off the average Bears fan’s life. (Also because the scheme doesn’t work without Urlacher, Briggs, & Peanut.)
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He’s on the trade block, injury prone, and has a big contract.
I’d call the Rams and offer a 4th, whatever salary split makes sense, and see how bad they want to dump him.
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8 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:
Garrett wants traded. Who would blame him? He's 29 coming off a 14 sack season.
Do we trade the #10 and a future pick?
And go!
HELL NO
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Honestly, I think he’s the RB version of Dexter Manley. Great at football, good at X’s and O’s, but probably dumb as a box of rocks, or just straight up illiterate. What other explanation could there be?
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8 hours ago, Stinger226 said:
Poles didn't completely ignore the OL. Wright was a high pick.
He signed Davis last year that was above average but after the death of his mother, he didn't care anymore.
Jenkins played well and he was giving him the last year to prove he could stay healthy. ( He didn't)
Drafting Braxton Jones was a risk he took and thought he succeeded but he didn't get better this year. Drafted a future prospect in Kiran to develop if Braxton failed. Needed him this year but wasn't ready.
Patrick and Whitehair failed last year so double dipped with Bates and Shelton at center. Bates was to injured and Shelton actually did okay.
I think because he was a marginal player when he tried the NFL, he thought he could build a OL with some marginal free agents and Wright and Braxton. Several failures doomed the OL coming into the year.
They are a few IOL that would be upgrades but will not come cheap. Trey Smith, Becton, and Dave Dalman.I think he tries to get one, resigns Shelton, Pryor and Bill Murray. Drafts a starting OT or OG( both ?) depending on how the draft falls. A center prospect to seat behind Shelton until he's ready.
Example: Kelvin Banks - moves Kiran to LG- Shelton and a rookie - Trey Smith- Wright.
Braxton, Pryor, Murray and 2 rookies for backups.
Problem solved.
I don’t believe that is problem solved. It’s 2 out of 5. It’s still a ragtag unit. A rookie LT, nuff said. Kiran at LG is a huge risk. Shelton is two years removed from practice squad, so he’s far from good. Trey Smith would be a great addition. Wright is proving to be solid.
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5 hours ago, AZ54 said:
The entire draft is a gamble. Any vet FA has a better known floor than the majority of rookies. When I see experts like Brandon Thorn say the OTs at the top (Campbell. Banks) belong inside at the NFL level then they aren’t top 10 picks. Then you’re adding a player having to learn a new position which doesn’t always go well early on. The value at 10 fits the Dline far better than Oline. Rounds 2 and 3 are where we should address the IOL. Or a trade back out of 10.
Given the gamble, I don’t care what dudes named Brandon Thorn say about the draft. I care more about dudes who look like grizzly bears with quick feet who earned their battle scars in big time college football.
As for moving inside, so be it. Give me ten year studs at any OL Position.
Lastly, if we went DL, OL, OL, I’d be fine with that.
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15 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:
I know this must be like Christmas for you Jason, everyone is so OL focused now. Let's hope we can get it right, because with the right OL (and DL), this team could go far.
And I can hear you saying "ANY team could go far with good lines!"I love that it’s FINALLY GETTING FOCUS. It only happens every 20 years or so. I just wish this franchise would learn that average skill players benefit far more from great OLs than the reverse. Give ANY QB in the NFL a secure pocket and time, and there is guaranteed offensive success.
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On 1/28/2025 at 6:23 PM, AZ54 said:
I prefer to fix Oline in FA then add to it via the draft. Caleb doesn’t need a bunch of rookies in front of him while he is learning a new offense. Dline has the talent in the first go get a good one.
The problem with that is that top tier OL isn’t available in FA. At best the second tier guys are available. Which leads to gambling on players who used to be good and may have a few years left, or players with “potential.”
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On 1/15/2025 at 12:29 AM, Stinger226 said:
I've been looking at RBs lately. Did we want the speed guy or power back in short yardage situations? I think Swift is our flash guy and Johnson a dependable backup, but more power on short yardage would help us in the red zone. This is a deep class and can get a good player with our mid round pick. Rahiem Sanders is 6'1"230 with 4.4 speed. Projected 5th round by Draft Buzz, he could fit that role. Lots of choices in mid rounds. Ian Cunningham comp pick would be a perfect spot.
I’ve been thinking that Skattebo could be a good pick in the 4th, maybe even late 3rd. He runs with power, heart, and determination. There’s also that chip on his shoulder. He could be a real workhorse that keeps drives alive by consistently churning out 4+ypc w/ an occasional long play.
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On 1/12/2025 at 5:28 AM, Stinger226 said:
One website that analyzes sacks said 1/3 of the sacks were on him .
I smell 🐂💩.
That’s immediately suspect analysis, likely performed by an underperforming JV offensive lineman who, despite his man-boobs and general body composition resembling 275lbs of chewed bubblegum, thinks he could have been all-state if the varsity coach had put him in.
The way I see it you break down into the following categories:
1. QB’s fault, held for big play
2. QB’s fault, missed read
3. WR’s fault, incorrect route(s)
4. OL’s fault, QB pressure/sack in pocket
5. OL’s fault, QB forced out of pocketI’m betting there is a lot of conflict between 1 & 5.
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On 12/31/2024 at 10:30 AM, BearFan PHX said:
that's gonna be amazing. Looking forward to what you find. Maybe count the number of times they are and arent?
Also keep in mind progressions, and open throwing lanes.
I suspect you'll find a decent number of plays where Caleb had options, and a bunch more where he didnt.
But what a great project.That’s going to be a very subjective analysis.
Generally speaking I’d say it’s gotta be a great majority on the OL.
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18 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:
OK, but a 2 gap scheme doesnt get as much fast pressure on the QB, and in the modern passing league, it's out of style for that reason.
Now you can certainly have one monster playing NT, like Billings did. That's a very good thing to have, and clogs up the middle. But teams play a 3T on the other side of the interior who is a one gapper penetrating type player more these days. And in a 3-4 front, there is always a monster NT, and then the other guy is a DE even, so not a second NT.No disagreement at all. But two of those monsters completely changes how an offense must attack. I’m fine with having less explosive middle rush as long as they push the pocket and occupy the four interior gaps.
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10 hours ago, AZ54 said:
How do you know a guy is the next Lombardi or Papa Bear until you interview them?
You don’t, but you also should have a pretty damn good idea of who your top three are. The Bears are going at this like a virgin freshman asking every girl in the class to prom.
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4 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:
It's lunacy. There's Vrabel, Johnson and Carroll and nobody else.
Yeah. It’s comical actually. It’s like having Jordan, Kobe, and Pippen standing next to Bill Cartwright and considering whether or not Bill is interested in playing on your 3-man basketball team.
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I didn’t choose the name; I chose the position. And, yes, I chose OT.
Picking RB is crazy to me. Classic Bears move. RB is overvalued. Less important. Get the right OL and it doesn’t matter.