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I like the idea you have going with the trade. Teams will want to jump to get their QB. I can see Philly and the Rams looking at QB. I have my eyes on a different team, however, and that's the NY Jets. Fitzpatrick had a career year, but he's A. Unreliable, B. Old, C. A fluke, and D. An UFA. Bears 1 11 1250 Jets 1 20 850 2 51 390 Two seconds would be a pretty big bounty.

I hope Pace is throwing smokescreens and he goes all out for Muhammad Wilkerson. Period. The ILB talent in this draft is immense. Drafting one in the 1st round is great value, and there are others later on who look great. I wouldn't be upset seeing 2 drafted, and wouldn't be shocked if they both end up starting. The 3-4 DE talent isn't as deep in my opinion.

Brainfart. I thought it put it in. http://www.draftsite.com/nfl/mock-draft/2016/

Their mock: 1. A'Shawn Robinson, DT, Alabama 2. Shawn Oakman, DE, Baylor 3. Darian Thompson, S, Boise St 4. Tyler Johnstone, OT, Oregon 5. Kevin Hogan, QB, Stanford 6. Clay Debord, OT, Eastern Washington 6. Tajae Sharpe, WR, Massachusetts 6. Joe Schobert, ILB, Wisconsin 7. Jonathan Williams, RB, Arkansas I just don't understand any mock draft that ignores the ILB position for the Bears, but the DE/DE start is intriguing. My alternative according to their layout. 1. Deforest Buckner, DE, Oregon - BPA at a need position, and ILBs seem to have fallen in this draft 2. Landon Turner, OG, UNC - He's a beast. (Jaylon Smith falls to round 2?!) 3. Scooby Wright, ILB, Arizona - See round 1 comments. Also, I love me some Scooby. 4. Tyler Johnstone, OT, Oregon - Yes, two OLinemen. If Long is the OT, might as well make him LT. Johnstone is now RT. 5. Kevin Hogan, QB, Stanford - Someone to mentor. He's got skills. 6. Roberto Aguayo, K, FSU - If he falls this far, this is a great pick for touchbacks alone. 6. Tajae Sharpe, WR, Massachusetts 6. Derek Watt, FB, Wisconsin - I think a FB compliments our scheme well. 7. Nick Kwiatkowski, ILB, West Virginia - Flying way under the radar. He's a tackling machine.

This is as good a place as any to put this information. Apparently the Bears met with the following players at the East-West game. Chris Brown, WR, Notre Dame (EW) Devon Cajuste, WR, Stanford (EW) Rashawn Scott, WR, Miami (EW) Fahn Cooper, OT, Ole Miss (EW) Tyrone Holmes, DE, Montana (EW) Elijah Shumate, S, Notre Dame (EW) Most of these guys seem like later round or UDFA options. Cajuste might go earlier because of his size (6'4" - 228), and the fact that no WR was going to shine in the Stanford offense with McAffery turning into Superman this year.

I just can't see Darrin Lee in the first. That would be a huge reach IMO. Especially when a guy like Ragland is still on the board. If the draft played out like that, I'd go: 1. Ronnie Stanley, OT, ND 2. Austin Johson, DT, Penn St 3. Scooby Wright, ILB, Arizona *That draft would hurt. ILBs Matakevich, Brown, and Scooby right before our pick in the third. I'd use a 6th to move up a few spots and nab the guy we want at ILB. 4. BPA

THIRD?! http://bearswire.usatoday.com/2016/01/28/8...bowl-team-ever/

2003-2012 OT:5 OG:5 DT:7 DE:9 Clearly picked more DL than OL. But 10 to 16 isn't that big of a disparity, right? 2003-2012, by round OT: 1,1,7,7,7 OG: 6,7,7,7 DT: 1,2,2,3,3,4,5 DE: 1,1,2,3,4,4,5,5,7 Seeing it this way is very damning. Look at all the attention given to the DL!!! Three 1s, 2s, 3s, 4s, and 5s!!! And the OL gets two 1s during that same stretch?? Also, this thread is where we FINALLY thought the OL would get attention, and there were a ton of names available. In similar threads during that time I touted DeCastro and Reiff. Of course, Lovie and crew decided to pick up SMC instead. Great.

I get the sarcasm, but he, in fact, sacrificed offense for defense. It's been shown over and over and over on this board in a variety of ways. There were way more DL drafted than OL. There was much more focus in keeping games slowed down than being explosive on offense. It just so happens that the OL Lovie et. al. did pick were all injured. Marc Colombo - Before Lovie, but had a fluke injury, and would have been a cornerstone if not injured. Chris Williams - Injury history prior to the draft. Drafted anyway. Completely dicked around by the Bears (documented numerous times). Gabe Carimi - Fluke injury, basically a career ender. FWIW - I don't think he had much hand in the OL picks. I think in each instance someone advised him to make the picks for the sake of the team. And the simple fact is, the OL was always sacrificed at the expense of the defensive players he loved.

Same reason I was on Ryan Switzer from UNC. He would have been available mid/late, but I didn't realize he already said he's returning for his senior year. He'd be a great addition because he's shifty like a possession guy, runs a 4.33 like a speed guy, and has great return vision.

No thanks. His price tag is too high. He's being slotted as a 3-4 round guy, and that's purely on potential and athleticism. He doesn't have the history as a receiver to warrant that high of a pick..

Big misunderstanding. I thought you were saying most didn't love him. As for Carimi, I think it was just bad luck. A fluke injury. Hell, I wouldn't mind bringing the Bear Jew back as a backup OT. Maybe he's past his injury? Although, I don't think he played this year.

This is an offshoot of that same article and line of reasoning. I'm not calling it into question. But a lot of people are.

Dude, for as long as I can remember, Alshon is the only pick that every single person on this board, and older boards, was in favor of. Hell, you started the thread where everyone supported the pick!

Oh, wow, I DO NOT want Striker. Aside from being a douche, he's tiny. 6'0" - 221lbs. That will not work as a 3-4 OLB for the Bears, and I'd rather have an actual ILB than give this guy a try-out.

On the 30th anniversary of the Bears 1986 SB trouncing of New England, a post I saw somewhere asked the question: "Would the 1985 Bears win it all today?" I think we all believe that team to be the best of all time, but could that collection of talent beat the 2015 teams? For the sake of argument, I'm only talking about whether the defense would dominate. Eight members of the defense were multiple-time probowlers. Only The Fridge, Mike Richardson, and Leslie Frazier were not. That doesn't concern me much since Fridge's role was a run-stuffer/blocker-occupier, and the CB duo of Richardson and Frazier never had to cover anyone more than a second or two. So, could the defense hang? In terms of pure talent, I think that's an unequivocal yes. DEs Some have argued they lack the size. The Broncos of this year, who most closely align with the 85 Bears dominating defense, are an interesting comparison. Their DEs (6'5"-289) and the Bears' DEs (6'5"-264.5) compare well. The scheme differences make this an unequal comparison, but Dent and Hampton were absolute terrors, and HOFers. I'd say they did as well vs the run as the Denver guys, and did much, much better rushing the passer. No comparison. Advantage Bears. LBs This is where there is a substantial difference in size. The Broncos LBs averaged 6'2"-249.5 and the Bears LBs averaged 6'1"-229.3. Twenty pounds is pretty big. In the Bears' defense, however, each of the three were considered excellent in their area. Singletary was one of the most intelligent MLBs of all time, always in the right spot. On top of that, he was as sure a tackler as there ever was. And, oh BTW, he's a HOFer and one of the top couple MLBs of all time. Marshall was a freak of nature, considered by some to be one of the best pass-coverage LBs of all time, and averaged over 100 tackles a season during the season in which he was fully used. Wilson is often overlooked, but he had 10.5 sacks in 1985. Von Miller by comparison? 11. For all the hype and talk, 11 sacks. He's certainly had more consistency, but Wilson had superb pass rushing talent. Demarcus Ware is similar to Miller in that he didn't dominate this year, but he's a better career rusher than Wilson. I think Ware is the only HOFer on the roster. Trevathan and Marshall are no comparison. Samurai is the big difference here, Advantage Bears. Secondary Fencik > Stewart. LOL. Not even close. Duerson > Ward. Closer than the FS battle, but still not close. I'd order them Talib, Richardson, Frazier, Stewart. So it's close to a wash, but the Broncos have the CB edge. Secondary in total? Big difference in safeties, Advantage Bears. I tried to be fair, but honestly there is no comparison overall. The Bears' D would still tear the entire league apart. If the Broncos D can thwart the Patriots, then the Bears D certainly could. And if the piss-poor Falcons can stymie the Panthers offense of Cam Newton, Greg Olsen, and no-names, then certainly the 85 Bears could. Anyone care to make an argument against the Bears offense? How they would be the downfall if playing today?

Honestly, I'm meh on his departure. I realize he had absolute shit to work with this year, but coming into the draft most already thought Alshon would be very good, if not great. And a lot of Alshon's progression is no doubt linked to his relationship with Brandon Marshall.

Agreed! Which could very well create the scenario this thread is referring to.

Read about this guy anywhere and you'll see: (Walter, Bucky Brooks, CBS, NFL.com, the list goes on and on) -Elite power -Great run defense -Unbelievable agility for his size -Surprising pass rush ability -etc. Everyone loves this guy. His high school highlights are more comical than maybe anything I've ever seen. What do you guys think of him as a potential 3-4DE? I know he isn't the ideal size/burst, but if he can collapse a pocket he can collapse a pocket. I don't care how it happens. And since I'm in favor of elite run defender 3-4DEs over guys who are well-rounded everywhere but not elite anywhere, I favor the former. With a guy like Billings in at DE, the run game to his size is non-existent, and it allows OLBs to really get after it. I think he's being pigeon-holed because of his physique, and work great as a somewhat one-dimensional 3-4DE. Agree/disagree?

Suppose the draft goes crazy. I'm talking "Kevin Costner making horrendous trades in Draft Day, getting his guy, causing a #1 QB to fall and nobody takes him"-crazy. Who do you want as your #1 guy? Honestly, I don't see how the Titans pick anyone but Tunsil. They have some offensive weapons, and just need to protect. Cleveland is picking a QB, and Goff seems like the #1 guy. Bosa is rated as the #1 guy overall on most boards, so he probably doesn't make it past SD. After that, however, all bets are off. So, assuming a small amount of realism, who do you hope makes it to 11 and the Bears can't help but to pick him? My guy is Ronnie Stanley. He's a stud, a monster with long-arms, punch, toughness, and the ability to play either side.

I like Scooby, Matakevich, Cassanova, and Kwiatkowski late.

That is pretty interesting. For the most part I like it, but I'm definitely not on board with NT or OLB. You already said why NT is not smart. The Bears have McPhee, Houston, Young, and Acho already. The first three obviously produced, and Acho looked like a monster at times in preseason.

Tough choices, but I've broken down how I feel about them. A. Neither LB is an ILB. B. Whitehair is going to be a soft OG. C. See A D. Win by default, gimme Dodd in Rd 2. Honestly, I don't like Fackrell all that much. He overpursues and his feet look slow. And while I like Reed more, he's really an OLB, not an ILB. I already said I don't like Whitehair a lot at OG, but the rest of the guys on the lists look good. If the Bears started out with Jack, Dodd, and Tretola, I would be hyped. Jack will be dynamic provided his injury is healed, Dodd looked explosive off the edge, and Tretola looks like a mauler. That would be a great start.

I obviously don't want to do the leg work, but I remember some outright horrible plays from Grasu, and some great plays. He was disappointing because we all thought he would transition more easily to the NFL game given how awesome he was in college. When I was touting him pre-draft, I really thought he was plug-and-play. I was wrong. He needs strength and reps. But if we were to count his total number of snaps and grade them all, I bet he'd end up somewhere around a C or C+. I imagine he would have been better if he had Long on his side like we thought would happen at the time of the draft. Instead he had bums playing to his right. It's why the Bears need a RG in the draft, or a RT if they move Long back inside. Speaking of that, moving Long inside has the added benefit of helping Grasu and, hopefully, a replacement RT.

I agree with White. If he pans out, this is an A draft. I disagree with your comment "Grasu was a huge disappointment for the most part". He was a rookie who started 8 games as a signal caller, got kudos from Thayer, on his debut got an A- from Moon, got positive grades from your beloved PFF, was given a C elsewhere for up and down performances, a higher grade from this site, and overall was pretty average, if not reliable for most of the games he played. He never stood out or dominated, but for a rookie center I thought he was decent.