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I think 7 to 8 mil is his value . We need more pass rush from someone and it is supposed to be Floyd. I am all for getting rid of him but get me a replacement first. We don't have a high enough pick to guarantee a rookie starts. I don't think we have enough cap space to grab the best pass rushers in free agency. I don't think their going to let him go without a replacement in place. We will see what they can do. I'm for keeping him and add some situational players but at 8 mil.

Two things stood out to me when they spoke at the combine. Pace didn't make a total commitment to MT ( put off fifth year option until May)and spoke on the effort of improving the OL and TE spots besides potentially fixing the QB problem. Tells me he will add both draft picks and vets to get that done at TE and OL. Also that he has a plan at QB that if it materialized, he would move on from MT. Nagy said that he needed to adopt the offensive scheme to his personal. So had he did that last year, we may have had 2 or 3 more victories.

I like the difference of opinions and the trash talking. Been on here a long time and some of the trash talking has been uncivil by me and by others. Friendliness is always a better way to disagree. Chugging a beer and taping it will be no problem. If Leno starts at LT this year day 1 , I win. ( no injuries). If he's replaced, I'll gladly chug a 6 pack, just don't think that will happen.

The key to everything they do will be based on the health of Burton . If they know that will be positive, then they will only add a mid level draft pick. If not, they will bring in another vet and use one of the first 2 picks on a TE. I think the roster will include Hotz, Horsted, Burton and Harris with Raymond and a new draft pick on the practice squad.

Dont we already have him on the roster in Jesper Horsted ? 6-3 238. I think we already seen he has some potential. If they draft a TE, I suspect it will someone that can block and catch. Horsted Braunnecker Burton Holtz Shaheen ( probably gone) Shaubert Sowell ( gone) Clark ( former basketball player) Raymond Harris We have a ton of projects, I don't see another one.

Since I won't have to chug one , ill let New York worry about beer etiquette. If I have to , a 68 year old that hasn't practiced being an alcoholic for 25 years, it won't be pretty.

Kinda weird

We have to chug a beer , video it and post here? The only presser is not because of injury.

Unfortunately Leno will be day one starter that's not a fallacy.

I think we bring in competition at CB but not a clear starter. ILB will be a cheaper Trevathan, a 6 mil a year contract with Kwit or KLP. RG will be a cheaper RG in FAency or a draft pick. The wildcard is if Bars can play and takes over at RG. We have to bring in a SS, fournitely there are a lot in FA and probably can get one to do a HaHa deal like we got last year. TE will be added in the draft. So the draft will come down probably only having to fill one spot as a starter and add a speedy WR or a OT prospect.

I think we would all agree we need to replace him but the circumstances of 4 long term money contracts on the OL prohibits that. Take in consideration we have no backup in place to take over for him. A better option in FAgency will cost to much. The chances of us drafting a LT starter on day 2 is slim. There is a better chance he plays better in 2020 than what we could replace him with. If he can reduce his penalties and play like 2018 , he would be acceptable.

The beginning of the post gave his contract and I agree he would be the best TE on the team. Unfortunately we can't look at this with blinders on. First he cost 7 mil, secondly he is older now , 35 in March, and has been injured for the last 2 years. https://sportsinjurypredictor.com/player/greg-olsen/2385 This is a link to a website that lists injury history on players and rates the prediction of future performance. He has a 51.1% chance of a injury in 2020.

The whole point was you wanted him here, after your argument gets turned upside down then you always walk back. It's okay we all do that sometimes. DANG IT

As much as Carr is a better QB right now there is 3 things preventing that from happening. Cost- with a lack of draft capital what do we have to offer? Cost- he is making 21 million this year, we are against the cap. Also is Carr the ideal fit for Nagys offense? I would say Bridgewater is a better QB right now but he is not a good fit for Nagys offense either. Pace is not going to give up on MT this year, his career is based on this pick, he's going to let this play out.

Actually he is a lousy TE option. As a inline blocker, bad , as a blocker against DBs, he did good. He is 223, how many TEs are that light? He is not known for having a high catch rate but as a speciality players with less touches he has been fine. As soon as you give him 70 targets it will show.

With Patterson, he may be a luxury but to replace him you would have to spend some money to get someone good so maybe they stay put. Leno isn't going anywhere and no one is trading for him. The other 2 are no brainers.

Just remember , 50% of all first round picks fail, good thing we don't have a first round pick. People that get paid to do player judgment don't get it right that often it's just something to talk about.

Your right the difference is we are not paying him 6.5 mil to play. With little cap space this is what you have to do to find competition at a weak position. There is no paying the best option at TE 10 mil to play or drafting a 2nd round pick that will start for us this year. We have to roll the dice on many options and pick the best one out going forward. Maybe we can sign a old injury prone vet and pay 7 mil , oh shit we blew that one.

Your saying injury risk could apply to anybody. Some people have injury history and some don't. Olsen has 2 years of history now with age. Not worth a 7 million contract, no matter how you want to play with words. C,mon man.

From what I've been reading, there are 4 legitimate QBs in this draft, Burrow, Tua, Love and Herbert. After that they all have flaws. Fromm and Eason bring no running game with them. Fromm is short and doesn't have a strong arm. Smart and brings intangibles but doesn't sound like a future pro starter.

Back then a TE did both catch and block, these days it's more of a specialty thing in passing offenses to have a pass catching TE. It's a rarity to find someone that does both well. Olsen was never good at blocking, M. Bennett was actually good at both.

This is a time where we all dream about what might happen. This would happen only if they give up on MT. I don't think their there yet.

So you think having Burton and Olsen does not matter with potential loss time ? If Burton wasn't injured last year we may not be worrying about signing TEs. At 7 mil , we can't afford to make mistakes this year. The risk factor matters with anyone we add this year. Olsen 3 years ago , I'm all in but 2 injury seasons and 3 years older. Thank God your not the GM.

I like the way Pace attacks adding players. Harris and early Robertson . Not big signing but cheap additions that at least adds depth before FAgency . I think both make the roster that keeps costs down.