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On a post I submitted, Food for thought, I list 7 of the leading DEs sackers that are similar in size. I did list J. Allen who is 2.5 inches taller but listed him because he came from Idaho State, because you used the small school argument. There are 5, mind you 5 that you can completely compare to our pick. But as you have did before , dont let the facts get in the way of your argument.
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I would not have picked any of these players, but then I am a plumber and my job is not on the line. He is filling areas of need and throwing it all on his shoulders with these picks. I have to give him cudos for not picking who I want. In two years this draft wont be a conversation, it will be the next draft, and we will know what kind of GM we have. I am a Bears fan first and foremost so I want everybody we picked to be good players, so Im on the bandwagon till proven otherwise. Nobody on this blog is a GM by trade so whine if you want, or praise, just remember it doesnt matter, you should only want everybody to be successful.
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Massie is still there, maybe we can get one, one spot away.
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Their job is on the line, so I trust they did there homework, and I will trust them till the tale of the tape tells us otherwise.
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Look at the list of leading sackers in the league last year, and you will see many 6-3 6-4 players on that list.
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they have a running Big Board on GBND website
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I think in the next two rounds we pick M. Martin/DT/Mich and Stephenson/OT/Okla
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DTs who are left B. Thompson/Clem Ta'amu/Was M. Martin/Mich rated in the top 18 players left
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I would say we still need to draft a DT, CB, OT, with the next two picks. Hope they can figure how to do that.
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Just showing how different peoples opinions vary quite a bit, most sites have him in that range, so we got valve where were at. The player most like him in the NFL is B. Marshall, so we will have to see how this plan plays out.
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We still need help on the OLine to get this potent offense going, running out on our potenial canidates to help .
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PFW has him ranked as the 49th best player NFP has him ranked as the 99th best player GBND has him as the 40th best player Draftcountdown has him at 59. He seems to have a lot of varied opinions on him, just hope he does well for us. It seems that Emery has a plan and it doenst include much help for the OL.
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He is our #2 and Bennett plays in the slot, where he belongs.
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Here is some info on him. Alshon Jeffery Height: 6-2⅞ | Weight: 216 | 40-Time: 4.48 Official Bio Strengths: • Great height and bulk with long arms and huge hands • Fantastic leaping ability, body control and ball skills • Wide catch radius and can snatch balls out of the air • Physical and understands how to utilize that big frame • Runs with power and can break tackles after the catch • Very tough and is willing sacrifice his body if needed • Really takes care of the football and rarely fumbles • An above average blocker who gives sufficient effort • Productive and durable w/ lots of quality experience Weaknesses: • Lacks top end speed and doesn't get much separation • Not very explosive with marginal burst and acceleration • Poor route runner and doesn't know how to get open • Focus will wane and drops too many catchable passes • A bit stiff and lacks quickness / agility to create in space • Maturity / Work Ethic / Dedication have been questioned • Played in system that's produced a lot of busts in pros • Conditioning issues and has a tendency to gain weight Injury History: • Suffered a broken hand which required surgery in 2011 Notes: A three-year starter and team captain for the Gamecocks --- A 2nd Team All-American in 2010 --- Named 1st Team All-SEC in 2010 and 2nd Team in 2011 --- Brother, Shamier Jeffery, also plays football at South Carolina --- A standout basketball player in high school and was part of a team that went 80-0 and won four state championships --- Owns the school record for career receiving yards, which is also the second-highest total in SEC history, as well as single-season receptions and receiving yards --- Missed spring practice in 2010 due to an academic issue --- Photo taken prior to the 2011 season in which Jeffery looked bloated and out of shape raised more than a few eyebrows --- Had 4 catches for 148 yards and 1 touchdown in 2012 Capital One Bowl but got ejected for fighting with Nebraska CB Alfonzo Dennard --- Did not have the big junior campaign that most were expecting but opted to go pro anyway --- Is too much of a one-trick pony (jump balls) and deficiencies were masked in Steve Spurrier's offense but could be in for a rude awakening at the next level --- Overrated prospect with major bust potential who was a better collegiate player than pro prospect. NFL Player Comparison: Mike Williams Career Statistics Year GP REC YDS YPC TD 2009 13 46 763 16.6 6 2010 14 88 1,517 17.2 9 2011 13 49 762 15.6 8 Totals 40 183 3,042 16.6 23 2012 NFL DRAFT | 2012 NFL DRAFT | 2012 NFL DRAFT © 2012. All Rights Reserved. Disclaimer | Media Inquiries | Advertise This site is an independently operated source of news and information and is in no way affiliated with the National Football League (NFL) or the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA). All information listed within this site is copyright of Scott Wright and Draft Countdown. Any reproduction, republication or redistribution of this site's content without express consent is strictly prohibited and will be pursued to the fullest extent of the law.
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I agree if they went WR I would have thought it be Randle.
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The kid talking about being a special teams player, is just him answering ?s in a positive way , has nothing to do what the Bears expect of him.
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I think they will try to make him stronger, then will start, and will be a situational pass rusher to start out with. We have all these opinions and he could turn to be a very good player. Emerys strong suit is drafting and if this doesnt turn out, we can burn him. Being a Bear fan I want it to be a good pick and I will remain positive about it until it proves otherwise. I also think down the road he could be the next big thing at MLB when Urlacher is done and be there 10 years. Right all he has to do is get 8 to 10 sacks and everybody will be happy.
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This is getting out of whack and I understand what you meant when you were comparing him to Bazium(dumb comparison by the way) when you said he was white. but anytime you mention color in any type of comparison you will get flack. Maybe you should give a little more thought to what you say before blogging it, then you wont have to try to defend yourself all the time by telling other people how stupid there are when you were the one that stated it.
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I wouldnt mind taking any of those WRs, I think they may go DT with the second round. possible choices Worthy/DT/MS,Still/DT/PSU,Reves/DT/Conn, Thompson/DT/Clem. Also OL with players Glenn/OT-OG, Konz/OC-OG, Martin/LT, Massie/LT, Allen/OT-OG, Adams/LT. So we will see who falls but they need to address OL, or DL before we grab another WR, there will be some choices left in the third or 4th round worth taking.
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The statement that Emery made was (he was the top rated player left out of his 7 top rated players) not the #1 choice. I think they liked Ingram alot and would have taken him over McCeillin.
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Here is some information out there about our pick. I have read where NE and Packers would have taken him with picks. Good draft company Players in the top 13 sackers in the league last year, playing DE Allen/6-6 270/Idaho State Babin/6-3 267/Western Michigan Long/6-3 270/Virg Avril/6-3 260/Pru C. Clemons/6-3 254/Geo T. Cole/6-3 270/Cinn Our pick has similar size with some of the best pass rushers in the league last year. Some are from not major schools. DEs similar in the draft Ingram- play either DE or OLB I think the Bears may have him rated higher, but he wasnt there when we picked. Meculis- play either DE or OLB Almost identical is size and speed. Knock on him, doesnt seem to have the feel for the game to be a every down player. Jones- play either DE or OLB Is an 1and 1/2 inches taller. Coming off a major injury, stuggles to change direction, doesnt have a bust off the ball. Irvin- can play either spot 15 lbls smaller, only DE prospect faster than McCellin, raw in pass rush tech, probably take a couple of years to develope Upshaw can play either spot similar in size Perry can play eitherspot similar in size, same speed as McCellin, pass rush tech. are limited. What it amounts to, he is similar to all the DE types that we were comtemptiing taking at that spot. His positives- high motor-durability-football instincts. negitives- a tweener type(as all the rest we looked at), not very stong, a little light. Conclusion I think he can get stonger going forward and add 5 to 10 lbs. which makes him in the ballpark with all that was drafted and some of the better pass rushers in the league right now. Every draftee is considered a tweener that I listed. Production, was moved all over the field and was not used as a primer pass rusher all the time. 16.5 sacks in two years. Had 3 inters, 2 forced fumbles, I blocked kick. So he has big play ability. He had 2.5 sacks playing head to head with C. Glenn, Geo, considered one of the better line prospects. It only matters how he plays not what my opinion of him was going in. After reading more about him and Mayock had his listed as the 14th best player in the draft, I am more on board with the pick, but Bears for ever 34 thinks he is a 5th rounder, so I am guess I should dislike the pick. Oh and he is white.
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Jarred Allen went to Idaho, so I guess we should rule him out as being able to rush the passer. Hey I am in your corner that I would have prefered a different DE, but he is not a reach, or low viewed 5th round pick as you have stated.
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He was never drafted to play OLB, some projected him as that because he fits there scheme at that position. He played DE in college and because of his skill set, they played him all over the field. The way I see it, I have read NE and GB would have drafted him with there picks. I would say good company as far as teams go. Keep in mind, Mathis 6-1/245, Feeney 6-1 268,Suggs 6-3/260,Aldon Smith 6-4/260. Any of them remind you of Dan Bazum?
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Great pick and why? They took the they wanted, not who we wanted.
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That slot in the draft pays way less than Forte wants, and no mileage.