BearsFan1974

Again, great points and post. Well, we both agree then that the problem is JA. Like I said in an earlier thread, Martz and Tice haven't had the tools to do the job. You're not going to rebuid a '57 Chevy with an allen wrench as your only tool. Martz' offense, including Tice's line, need the players that fit that offense. I question Martz' play calling, but I despise his lack of adjustments more. If passing the ball 40 times a game isn't working then change your plan. This game is based on adjustments. If on 1st,2nd, and 3rd down you only pick up 3 yards a play, you have to adjust to get a 4 yarder in there somewhere. Keep the ball moving. The main issue I have with Tice is not getting False Start Frankie off the field. How much worse can the back up be? I mean really, if the back up is THAT BAD, why does he have a job. As far as Lovie goes, I question his leadership because his subordinates (assistant coaches) don't make those adjustments, then he's left with the sticky booger on his finger. If he's able to get the players to buy-in, why can't he get the coaches to buy-in as well? It's not entirely Lovie's fault, because I'm not one who throws the coach unde the bus when the team's not performing, but when you win every couple years and get as far as we've gotten thos couple of years, then start shitting the bed the next, there is a problem.

The only wonder Tice has worked since he got here was making the fans wonder what the hell took so long to bench False Start Frankie. And the comment about Angelo taking a dump is priceless, however you said that while he's squatting with half a turd hanging out of his ass in the lobby. He might be trying, but his best blows and it's obvious he doesn't have a clue.

First of all, great post Grizz. I agree with most of your post with the exception of the following points: Yes, Angelo has picked up some quality talent as you said in Peppers and Cutler. But he has missed more often than not in that regard. For every Peppers there's a Roy Williams. For every Cutler there's a (take your pick) Manumaleuna/Taylor/Merriweather, etc. I believe this falls solely on JA. He picks the talent and he picks the coaching for that talent. Lovie to me is an average coach who does enough to get by and enough to get an extension when the time comes. Contract was running out on Lovie, Super Bowl appearance. Contract running out again, NFC Championship game. Lovie Smith, to me, is Bobby Cox of the Braves. Good coach who could only get over the hump once in 20 years. JA picked Tice, Martz, and Marinelli to coach these players. We essentially have 3 other head coaches on this team with a combined coaching record of 95-100 (Marinelli 10-38, Martz 53-32, and Tice 32-33). With all this coaching "expertice", one would think we would have a clue on how to make in-game adjustments. If you go 3 and out on 3 straight drives, fix it. If you're not getting pressure on the QB, bring more pressure. If your RT is starting 3 huts before the snap, get his ass off the field. Especially when he does get the snap count down and doesn't block anybody. Yes, the players stand up for Lovie as they should and as they have to if they want to continue to play. They also stood up for Jauron. But let me tell you something, General Custer's men stood up for him too and that didn't work out so well.

Let's move on from the debacle. The Queens are next so let's kick their asses all over Soldier Field.

WAY TO GO FALSE START FRANKIE!!!! Congrats on your accomplishment, good luck on your endevour of allowing the most sacks in NFL history. Ya D-Bag.

I think you gotta move Graham to WR because how many times has he gotten down field untouched on punt coverage...it proves he can get away!!!

Anything would be better han what we have now.

That's what gets me. It seems like JA didn't try at all. Randle El is better than what we have, Houshmenzadeh is better than what we have at WR. We could have revamped the line and still and money left under the cap. This regime blows and they aren't getting better at all. They do just enough to get by, but fellas, getting by ain't winning games or Super Bowls.

They're not even worthy to be in the NFL after that performance. I was truly ashamed of that display they put on. The referees needed new whistles after all thos false starts.

"...but was able to effectively play through it most of the game." Didn't see the effective part, but yes he did play.

Agreed. Best returner EVER!!! Wasn't even a WR at the U, why try it and why keep it when it's failed?

Shit that big won't flush...just get extensions and stick around

Noots, I wish you were grading me when I as in school. QB A RB B+ WR F OLine F Defense...F- Special Teams... D Coaching...Incomplete must be expelled immediately!!!

Frank Ominyale just got flagged for another false start... Way to go False Start Frankie!!!...jagoff

That would be a welcome addition. I'd pay a chunk of his salary if he did. Is he RFA?

Correct that, Lith. It the Filet everyday for a year served by a naked Jessica Alba.

Lovie is over-rated. moreso than Tice.

I honestly don't think we will win 8 games. 7 is stretching it. Minnesota W (3) TB L Philly W (4) Detroit L SD L Oak L (Because it's a later game on FOX) KC W (5) Den L Sea W (6) GB L Min W (7) only because it will put us in the middle 10 of the draft rather than the upper 10 We need to clean house because we absolutely suck balls and this performance was down right pathetic.

I was disgusted the whole game. Cutler played his ass off and the ESPN crew actually did a great job pointing that out so kudos to them. Jay and Forte...If it wasn't for them, we would have gotten our asses handed to us 30-0. If I were them two, I'd leave as long as JA is in charge. Unless they're playing for the money, it's like getting in the ring with Tyson in his prime. I was excited about Harris playing tonight...HORRIBLE. It like going on a date with the girl you've wanted for a long time then when you finally get a chance with her, she has a fake leg. Hester...DAMMIT!!! Catch the ball. If you absolutely cannot make a play, don't force it!!!! OLINE...They know the damn snap count...they're in the huddle when Cutler tells them...WTF?!!! Omiyale has to be the absolute worst player in Bear history if not NFL history. He can't play dead. He is a disgrace and should've been cut before he showered after the game. The defense, I hate to say it...is way past it's prime. Yes, the DB's suck but we always had LB play. Tonight, the LB core looked old. Jahvid Best rushed for a buck sixty and looked amazing. I will give props to DJ Moore. Nice pick and and a huge tackle on 3rd down. Coaching staff...what a collective bunch of morons. How do you burn a timeout, lose a challenge, not gain a single Goddamn yard, in a span of 4 seconds? HORN THE WHOLE F'N TEAM NOOTS except Jay and Forte.

We have to keep pounding the ball. We need more pressure on Stafford. This is his first time on the big stage. If we get to him, he can rattle and make some more mistakes.

Just need a little bit better blocking from the OLine to give Jay some time. They are killing on run blocking...it helps that we're bouncing it outside and using the Lions' aggressiveness on D against them with draws.

HUge pick by Moore!!!! Stops em dead in their tracks!!!!

TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quiet the Kittens Fans!!!!

Cutler actually had some time on that Hester play. THen next play False Start...I HATE FRANK!!!!

He caught 12 passes n his 8 games...and fumbled 3 of those 12!!!! Bad choice, if that's JA's point.