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Who drafted Devin Hester?
Aside from the Garret Wolfe pick, there wasn't a pick I hated/disliked more than the Hester one. Hell, that alone shows just how much I know
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I disagree...they would have chosen Cadillac Williams who, while not being amazing, has been much better than Benson.
Aside from his rookie season has he really been that much better than Benson? Williams is coming off a very severe injury (more so than Benson's) and was given a steady dose of carries from the get-go. I'm not necessarily makinga case that he is hands down better then Ced, but I think it is realistic at that this point in the career had Ced received a similar amount of carries that they would statistically have similar careers (but than again, I think Benson can be an above average back with a solid line and he showed to me this season that he can do good things when he gets some blocking; he just can't be effective when he has a horrid line, but most backs can't be).
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Found it I hate change
but I am happy we are all here for the most part. 
I love this site 
and hope we never go anywhere. Hey how do I put my pix back up?Glad you made it over.
It looks like you have your avy up, is there any other sort of pic you are looking to put up (I know all of the images that were on the old site, were deleted by the network). In the future we shouldn't have such issues (unless I personally f things up, which is always a possibility considering I'm a hack at this stuff, LOL) since we are on our own server.
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After the game Lovie said "I don't think Kyle did anything to hurt his chances for next week" so It looks like he may keep the job. Overall Kyle played OK. When you take into account all the factors, you realize he did better than what he actually did.
We don't have an offensive line, we rushed for 32 yards tonight which never helps an inexperienced quarterback and we have a QB that hasn't made a start for nearly 2 years. That doesn't bode well for anyone under those circumstances. I was pelased with the way he played and what he had to work with. He still had some plays he left out on the field like the 4th and 1 overthrow to the fullback and one pass to Hester on a slant route I remember vividly that probably would have wound up for a score.
I have a question for anyone that may know, how many times this season have the Bears ran the ball under 15 times (I have no idea if they ran it fewer than that tonight but it sure seemed like it and I know I've had that feeling a ton of times all season).
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Those are pretty ridiculous comments. I'd like to point out that Lovie apparently told the ESPN reporters at halftime that they were quite pleased with Orton and expected him to do bigger/better things in the 2nd half. That obviously didn't happen but I'd be highly dissapointed if they didn't stick with Orton (the only possible reason I could see for going with Griese is if the Bears feel that playing Griese is more valuable in the sense that it helps them evaluate the young WR's more than having KO out there).
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Matt Toeaina #75. He made 2 outstanding plays stuffing Peterson for losses. He has only been on the roster for 1 week and has made a very nice impact. Cross DT off the list of needs for next yr in the draft.
Peace
Completely agree. The only way I would even think about taking a DT is if Glenn Dorsey was on the board. I must admit it would be hard to pass up a total stud like him. He has similar attributes that a guy like Harris has and I have to admit it would be ridiculous watching the two of them in the inside (good lord).
In all reality though, aside from LB (if Briggs goes), safety is the only spot I'd mess with on the defense (although I have no problem using later picks on the dline). I'd probably think/consider moving Manning to CB full time and release Manning Jr (Manning/McBride would be backup CB's with the 3rd being the other rookie corner, forget his name). Have Mike Brown/FA/Draft pick/McGowan at safety (quality FA) knowing if you must you can go with Manning (but try to just let Manning play one position and I think he has the athletic ability to be a solid CB in this league if you give him time to practice/play there for a camp/preseason and regular season).
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McNown
Enis
Terrell
Salaam
Haynes
Colombu
Haynes/Columbo are the only two that were Angelo picks. Haynes/Grossman were picked in a trade down where the Bears passed on Dwayne Robertson (and to this day I think it was a good decision to trade down and Haynes development was stunted by the Bears switching coaches a year into his career, IIRC, and his style suited Blache/Jauron's style but not Lovies style (lovie prefers the speed approach).
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Turner sucks - absolutely sucks.
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I got to be honest. This was probably one of his better calls. Remember when Griese hit Clark on the playaction in GB (I think that was 4th down) and the Bears won the game. This was a similar call and Orton made the safe read to McKie (Clark was also open down the seam and probably had a TD) and failed to deliver the pass (McKie was open).
Heck, given the Vikings absolute strength in the inside this was a pretty good playcall, imo (and it pains me to say that, LOL).
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The good:
Briggs
Tillman
Vasher
Urlacher
Brown
Anderson
Brown
I want to point out that Urlacher/Mike Brown were drafted by the late Mark Hatley.
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Danieal Manning
Garrett Wolfe
Mark Bradley
Cedric Benson
Dan Bazuin
Dusty Dvoracek
I don't know if I could call the Dusty pick bad. If you aren't calling the Colombo pick bad (since his failure was not because he didn't have the talent, rather cause he couldn't stay healthy) there is no way you can't call the Dusty pick bad. In his one game out there Dusty looked like a maniac (awesome push, played run/pass well) and I was super excited (unfortunately he went down in week 1). You also can't call it a major negative that he didn't play his rookie year given the Bears depth at DT at the time (you could say the timing of the pick was bad, in that they could have went for another position given the depth at DT).
I also can't really comment on Bazuin till he gets on the field. Plus had the Bears not taken Benson they would have taken Mike Williams and that would have been twice the disaster.
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I was pissed at halftime because i thought that BS penalty that put them in field goal range completely changed the momentum of the game...
I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one who thought that was a BS penalty. I was livid.
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So you don't draft an OT and you keep Miller?? No way in hell!
I think he was implying that with your early 2nd round pick there are very good odds that a quality Offensive tackle will still be there (ie, his opinion is that aside from Long the rest of the Tackles all grade out similarly so if you stick around you may be able to grab the same type of guy in rd 2 that you could have taken atop the board).
My thought on this is that if this is the case, I can only hope someone some other team is drooling over is there and than the Bears can slide down the first round and pick up an extra 2nd round pick (give them a first where they still grab a tackle, a 2nd for a QB and a safety/RB/WR, than in the 3rd RD you take a guard you like and the other position you didn't take). In FA you sign one of the stud guards and than resign Brown who will groom the 3rd round guard we drafted (along with Beekman). Keep Garza/St.Clair (or Metcalf over Garza depending on cap space) as backups.
You should also have money to give Briggs & Berrian money as well and maybe even give some money to a safety.
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The problem I have with this is the dropoff at each position. At tackle, after Long you're looking at...Clady, Oher, Otah, Baker, Williams, Cherilus, Hills, and Loadholt. Some are juniors and may or may not leave. And there's at least a rough idea that some are better than others. But it's a long list, and they're all good prospects. Who's even close to Phillips?
Someone have some info on Phillips. I haven't looked much into the draft aside from McFadden, the oline guys, Dorsey, and the QB's. I couldn't even tell you who this Phillips guy is (safety??).
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I agree in terms of we have nothing to lose so what could it hurt for Kyle to get his shot. I just really wanted to win this game and play spoiler to the Vikes and Orton was garbage. Now, why not. Spoiler isnt even fun, I hate to say it but now Im chasing a draft pick because I want nothing to do with this team winning anything if it prolongs whats going on here.
Hell, at the end of the first half (after the TD) I was super excited and got these delusions of playoffs in my eyes (I was thinking based on the way the D was playing and the nice Orton pass to Moose to set up the McKie TD that hell, maybe they win out and get a little luck).
Than the field goal and those delusions quickly dissapeared.
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I agree with you on seeing more of Bradley on the field. He has potential and he has been absolutely terribly used. He gets open when he's out there and immediately comes off. I just don't understand it. I have no problem teaching Hester in game now that the season is done but it shouldn't prevent the Bears from getting a high-upside guy like Bradley a chance (afterall the Bears really need to know what they have in him since they are going to have Berrian out there in FA and Moose as a potential cap casualty).
Welcome to the board Jason.
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No, I was on the neckbeard high when I made that prediction.
Part of why I don't mind keeping Orton is because of that neckbeard. It makes it look like we got a lumberjack at QB and to me that just promotes toughness
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If the Bears resign Grossman, is the best move really to bring in another OC and have him learn yet another system?
As Rex's biggest fan on this board, if bringing him back means Turner comes back than I'd rather have Griese start (and I think everyone here knows of my distaste of one Brian Griese).
If his job wasn't sealed already, the atrocious play calling tonight had to seal Turner's career in Chicago.
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i was all for the Orton experiment. It just took me less than a half to realize, he simply doesnt have it.
That sounds like me and Griese. I also feel very similar to Orton as I do Griese, but I also admit Orton is young so he has a chance to prove me wrong. Griese on the other is older and past his prime (there was a span where he was an effective QB). I still think if Griese is behind an above average oline and has an above average running game that he can be productive (given that situation I think Rex could be great..key word being "could").
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The were horrible tonight. I take nothing away from the Vikings - they deserve to win. But if you are going to call crappy penalties, then call them on everyone:
- Intentional grounding penalty
- Alex Brown clearly held on Peterson's 2nd TD and the Bullinger 2 point play
- roughing on Tillman
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Don't forget the ridiculous holding on Clark early in the game (where his jersey was ripped completely off his shoulder thanks to a brilliant hold by the Vikes).
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You can say that with any QB in the NFL. Look at Derreck freakin Anderson. He is so freakin overrated, but he has the best offensive line in football. You could put me back there as their QB and complete a couple of passes since I could just sit back there for an eternity.
I think a lot of QB's in the NFL would make it an average offense, I said Rex would make it an above average offense. That was the difference, but in theory, I completely agree with you, which is why I think it is stupid (given the Bears holes on the oline) to spend any money or a high draft pick on a QB (2nd rounder I can live with, especially if the Bears had a trade down or something where they picked up extra first day picks and using one of there 3rd rounders on a guy like Ainge/Brennan (if he falls)/Falco.
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I dont care what he avoided. He couldnt do shit. The only points they got were when the defense got them the ball on the Vikings side of the field. Orton sucks. I was sitting their begging for Griese. Anyone should have one that game for the Bears but Orton couldnt do anything.
I completely agree with you, but I still am all for giving Orton the rest of the season. He hasn't seen an NFL defense in well over a year and deserves that. I hope to hell he proves us both wrong too.
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I am going with Rex Grossman, Kyle Orton (unless he stinks these last few games, in which case I'd think about keeping Brian, or would just sign another veteran backup) plus a draft pick (I would have no problem with a 3rd round pick or a 2nd round pick if the Bears filled a lot of there skilled position needs via FA as well as signed/drafted oline).
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My biggest problem with Grossman is that he runs backwards...it isn't his height (look at Doug Flutie) it is just his mentality. He bails backwards and turns a 5 yard sack into a 10 yard sack. I didn't like the pick when we made it and I still don't like him as a QB. I will admit that this year is not his fault (see Turner and Oline for the top culprits) but I just don't like the guy as an NFL QB.
I think that is probably his biggest negative. Surprisingly I'm not very concerned with his ability to read defenses. I think he understands defenses pretty well (and it was made evident with how smoothly he ran the no-huddle). The key to me is him getting better when he's under pressure. Following the disastrious stretch of games he lost confidence and ended up thinking intstead of playing and it resulted in numerous bad decisions (he'd wait too long and a guy would jump the route or he'd overthink and make the wrong read instead of relying on instincts that got him where he was).
When he re-entered the game he seemed to be more mobile and actually turned some busted plays into plays. I know when you give Rex time he can pick a defense apart, especially because he throws such a good ball (he has such a quick release, strong arm, and that arm is incredibly accurate). You watch some of the throws he makes and I'm just left in awe (I'm a massive huge fan of QB's and he'll make some throws that has me speachless).
He still needs to improve his footwork when it comes to pressure and no one knows if he will, but in the greater scheme of things I think if you give him a good oline, and a solid RB, he will lead an above average offense. I don't know if the Bears still buy into that or not, but I've seen enough from Rex to think it is worth giving him another shot (and I have no problem using a first day pick on a QB...note I say 1st round cause in general I'm not a fan of taking a QB in the 1st round unless it is late in the 1st round because of all the guaranteed money given to them).
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Yes... Most were at the shoelaces.
He definitely needs to work on the shotgun snap in the off-season (it is realistic to expect him to struggle considering prior to this year it had been years since he has had to do it). Blocking wise Kreutz was an animal tonight. He was the one guy I consistently noticed getting blocks and just going crazy out there.
Garza was absolutely horrendous and I mean Horrendous. Miller had bad penalties and was his usual terrible self and St. Clair was meh, but my god I saw Garza wiff or take the wrong guy (or what I deemed to be the wrong guy, but I'm not aware of who the blocking assignments were for specific plays) and it was just awful.
Some actual line up changes
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I can't see anyway Walker would be worth that sort of cap hit cause there really isn't anything he can do the final two games to prove me he should be kept. I'd give a boatload of time to Kennedy/Toeaini (I really liked how Toe played).