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This is who I would want.
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This fits fact I think we take an ot at 9. Book end your top qb with first round ots, Jenkins, Davis and a free agent center (plus try to hit some more oline men in draft).
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DABEARSDABOMB replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
I think center in free agency. I don’t love drafting a rookie center and expecting him to start but I am good with drafting one in 3rd or 4th round and trying to develop. -
Stroud was on the laughing stock of a football team. Mahomes / Love is an argument I can buy as KC and Packers were stable franchises and solid teams. But Stroud went to a horrific franchise who was being made fun of and had zero building blocks and turned themselves around literally the second they drafted Stroud.
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DABEARSDABOMB replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
I am starting to waver on my initial mock - which was Williams & Rome and am pivoting to. Williams LT or Top Dlinemen Field(s) pick(s) - wideouts (I am assuming we get a late 1st or a 2nd and 3rd and than am proposing we use those to draft wideouts plus sign Samuel). -
I suspect it will be Bagent but they will have a competition for the spot and bring in some veteran back-up to compete with Bagent for 2nd string spot (and be able to stay around as the 3rd stringer if he loses the battle to Bagent). Drew Lock is one of the options - given his familiarity with Waldron's system. As far as Caleb - I suspect he will start from day 1 barring injury. I say that because he is going #1 overall and he has 3+ years starting experience in college, so feels like the type of guy who you throw into the fire vs. having them wait. I also don't think waiting works unless you really plan on sitting the player for the full season. Now if I drafted JJ McCarthy, who was less experience - than I think a team taking him should plan on sitting him for 1-2 years. To me that is the only QB you take where I would keep Field(s) around. I love McCarthy - but I think only way he ends up good is if he sits for a while. Note: Nagy was right about Field(s) too. He should have sat that entire year and had a real off-season before getting thrown into the fire. Bears and Pace were pressured to force the situation and I truly believe it had a negative impact on Fields (who was too inexperienced to get thrown into the NFL like that).
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DABEARSDABOMB replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
If it were anyone other than Field(s) - I would be mad that the Bears passed on a QB. But I will state - the Bears have never had a more likable individual play the QB position ever. His character traits are just off the charts special. -
Excellent point there - really appreciate the deep dives you do.
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I like how they did now with both of these guys to do them a solid.
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One thing that has morphed in the last 5 years is wideouts seem to have gotten a new upper echelon in terms of how much they get paid. I know there were always a few that got paid -but than we got into the point where wideouts are now being paid more like top end DE's - which changes the structure and maybe increases the benefit of drafting a wideout early (and locking them into a rookie deal). With that said - I am curious if the wideout bust rate is higher or materially different than other positions. If it turns out - wideouts in top 10 bust 20% more than dlinemen or OT's in top 10 - that would be an interesting data point as well. I will admit - I have long been on the - take a QB and get him help. Help likely meant WR - however, help also could very well be one of the top to LT's are sitting there and that is not a bad thing either. Jones becomes a swing tackle (I don't know if he can move to guard) and than you now need to sign a free agent center. Than invest in a wide receiver or two later in the draft (probably using the pick(s) you get from Fields to get it) and add a vet wideout as well.
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The Chicago Bears are on the clock! OFFSEASON OPEN THREAD!
DABEARSDABOMB replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
This was really interesting - I do think it goes back - Bears GM and front office and players are all genuine. Fields is a great lockeroom guy and a great leader. I think everyone genuinely likes him and believes he will continue to get better. Just because all those things are true doesn't mean you stick with that individual and if nothing else - I think this continues to build up the value of Fields (and I don't think it does anything to hurt the value of #1 either). -
I'll throw a new one out there. Fields for Kyle Pitts and their 2nd round pick. Pitts is still on rookie deal next year and than you'd have to use a 5th year option for him - so basically you have him locked in for 2 years plus get a 2nd rounder which you can use to target center. It also means Bears are sitting at 1 and 9 for QB and best wideout OR you could take the LT or top defensive player at 9 (or move down from 9).
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And in the superbowl - Purdy led a drive in 4th quarter and OT that put his team up
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This is my point - great players elevate their game. Don't give me all this nonsense of what he had around him. He played at his worse when the game was on the line.
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Wasn’t he pretty lousy since going to San Fran? It seems like the reports were right - with that said if Bears thought they could get his switch to flip - it would be fantastic cause he can crush it.
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In fairness Purdy was part of a drive to put San Fran up in 4th quarter and Overtime as well. So I don’t know that I buy the extreme negative on Shanny and definitely don’t on Purdy.
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I do think a lot of Caleb stuff is smoke screens to try and create something not there for teams who maybe hope to have a shot at getting him.
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Trubisky wasn’t the guy I wanted to draft - however I was supportive of the GM having the stones to move up and get his guy. I will state his rookie year I thought he was trending to be something special. But he could only read half the field. Cutler was who I was always all in on. But I thought Mac Jones was a sure thing - not stud - but literally a sure thing starting qb - boy was I wrong. But you have best track record of any of us - I remember Dak was always your guy and you were right - he ended up damn good given where he was picked.
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One does with his legs / the other with his arm. I’m good with the one who does it with his arm.
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This is an outstanding draft.
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I figure Hunter is number one on Bears list. Him or Jones and if you take qb at top you can use the cap space on him.
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Biggs was talking about the opposite. Gabriel is only guy with real connections who just said one thing would come out about him but also said all the noise around his character was BS. I presume the one bad thing was related to him being irritable when team struggles. One of his high school coaches talked about it and they said it was one consistent theme - in game - when things get rough - he will get heated and a bit more abrasive cause he wants to win so much and be great. I actually think that is a plus - I think of Brady, Jordan and Kobe - they had that in game mentality and would will themselves through everything. They weren’t always nice but it was that fierce attitude and focus to be great that drove them to be the best.
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Biggs and a few others have basically said there is zero character issues around Caleb. You had some fake twitter people trying to make something up just like those reports of him not wanting to go to Bears. I know some people with ties at USC - no one has ever said anything negative about Caleb. I’m not saying he is perfect but he took his entire oline to heisman ceremony when he won and was there for the pro bowl game despite not playing (a number of other usc players no showed by the way). High school and Oklahoma people have nothing bad to say about him. The dude clearly wants to win and everyone says he is ultra ultra competitive and hates losing and really the main knock I have heard validdadted is he is a miserable person to be around in game when the team is struggling cause he is so pissed and wants to will them to win. I think of Brady and how pissy he might look when he was struggling. He also has the best stats against good teams of all the other qbs. People talk the ND game but the consistent track record is he put up a 140 plus qb rating against top 25 teams and 135 plus rating against top 10 teams (and the sample size of top 10 and 25 teams he played was large).
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Bowen is one of the best. Not saying he is the best but he does his homework and isn’t someone who talks to talk or who tries to take shock stances.
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I’ve been all in on Williams but I get the logic on moving down one spot for Maye. I did go back and look though - in history of qbs going 1-2 in order - only Donovan McNabb was better. In fact - almost always the 2nd qb in the 1-2 ended up a massive bust (Rick Mirer and Ryan Leaf - 2 examples). Wentz was the next best behind McNabb as it related to #1/#2